Eastern Conference | Round 1 | (4) Philadelphia 76ers vs. (5) Toronto Raptors

SelfishPlayer · Post #341 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:54 am

rilamann wrote:Maybe the Sixers still win the series because they have the best player in the series. But Nick Nurse vs Doc Rivers is going to be comical.

2020 https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/nick-nurse-passes-steve-kerr-become-winningest-head-coach-nba-history

Today Ime Udoka has a higher win percentage than Nick Nurse. Doc Rivers is at .587 and Nick Nurse at .604.

Raps in 4 · Post #342 » by **Raps in 4** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:16 am

SelfishPlayer wrote:
rilamann wrote:Maybe the Sixers still win the series because they have the best player in the series. But Nick Nurse vs Doc Rivers is going to be comical.

2020 https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/nick-nurse-passes-steve-kerr-become-winningest-head-coach-nba-history

Today Ime Udoka has a higher win percentage than Nick Nurse. Doc Rivers is at .587 and Nick Nurse at .604.

How many 3-1 series leads has Nurse blown?

LarrySeinfeld · Post #343 » by **LarrySeinfeld** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:16 am

SelfishPlayer wrote:
sycammer wrote:well for the raptors, this was a development year, no matter how this series turns out, the season is already a success.

Developmental year? Siakam, FVV, OG, Trent, and Young are all well paid vets. The Raptors aren't a developmental team with a "future." The Raps are a treadmill team hoping to develop a superstar and/or acquire one through trade. Signing a superstar through free agency is probably not an option with all things being considered.

You really are not as informed about the raptors as someone who watches and follows the team. Take it from another raptors fan.. This is a developmental year. We are not trying to acquire a superstar like other teams. There is no placing your bets on acquiring another Kawhi, that was a 1 off after years of trying with Demar until you even decide to take that risk and Masai rejects the idea of super teams altogether really and mortgaging your future on 1 year experiments.. Since Masai has taken over, his duties were not only to put together a roster but to build a basketball club from the ground up with an emphasis on player development. Everything has been rehauled from coaching staff, trainers, D league team (raptors 905), and entire infrastructure. FVV came through our system as an undrafted player and look where he is now. Same with Siakim from late pick to G league to bench player to MIP to Allstar and dare I say All NBA this year? OG is 24 and part of our core, Trent is 23-19ppg 3 and D defensive dog, Scottie is 20-unicorn ROY candidate watch out for him future star.., Precious is 22-unicorn player as well made huge strides this year, rookies Banton and Champagnie are coming up in the same way through the G league and made major improvements this year as well look out for them. All these guys are young, long unicorn type players with an emphasis on defense being bred to fit our system and getting better and wont hit peak until 27-28 years old if that even exists. Siakim is still improving so is everyone else. Now while I say that, our younger guys won't even have to wait that long to see that we will be contenders even before that. Our guys just keep getting better.

Young is a vet who fit our narrative (long switchable versatile wing that can guard multiple positions). Something every team has regardless due to their importance and what they bring to your younger guys, doesn't matter where you are in the standings. He is an expiring contract and he was well paid before he got here. His salary matched well enough with Dragic who wasn't playing who we got from the Lowry sign and trade that got us precious and were trying to dump for someone useful. He has been a pleasant surprise in terms of impact on the floor and of great importance to the improvement of precious and Scottie. The fact that you call the raptors a treadmill team speaks to how much ahead of schedule we are considering you know nothing about what the actual goal was and is. You really have no idea lol

art_tatum · Post #344 » by **art_tatum** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:12 pm

Never have I rooted harder for Toronto than now. Even more than when they were on the cusp of becoming Lebronto.

nikster · Post #345 » by **nikster** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:32 pm

SelfishPlayer wrote:
tdot_steel wrote:One thing you can hang your hat on is the ability of the Raptors to defend Embiid.

5 of Embiid's 11 worst games as a pro are against the Raptors. The stats about his +90 is great. But he is shooting 42% in the regular season for his career and 37% in the playoff's. I will take those numbers.

Sixer's fans are happy to counter with how Toronto will defend Embiid. But how is Philly going to counter Barnes and OG....the 4th and 5th scoring options in the starting lineup? Philly has to defend and don't be surprised if Toronto targets whoever Harden is defending.

OG averages 9.2 PPG in the playoffs. What is there to defend? He's a role player. Playoff style basketball isn't kind to this sort of player from a PPG perspective. Expect for him to produce less points than he does in the regular season. You can bank on that more than Embiid playing below average against the Raptors. Now Embiid can play off of Harden who carries a 26.7 career PPG against the Raptors.

What a strange way to use career ppg....

OG last averaged 10.5 ppg in the playoffs 2 years ago, his regular season average that season was 10.5 (a career high for him at the time). Since then he's averaged 16 and 17 ppg the last 2 years.

Harden used to be an MVP, this year's he's not even playing at an all NBA level. His stats sucked the 2 games he played the Raptors with philly

Zeno · Post #346 » by **Zeno** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:00 pm

I predict Harden goes off after 10 day break and plays really well and media immediately regrets picking the Raptors...then Raps in 7.

stormi · Post #347 » by **stormi** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:00 pm

God Squad wrote:I like being the underdog with upset capability.

The Raptors are absolutely the favorites and it feels tremendous as a Sixers fan to not have that burden of being expected to win this one.

Legacy series for Siakam, Barnes and FVV right here.

Bruin · Post #348 » by **Bruin** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:16 pm

stormi wrote:
God Squad wrote:I like being the underdog with upset capability.

The Raptors are absolutely the favorites and it feels tremendous as a Sixers fan to not have that burden of being expected to win this one.

Legacy series for Siakam, Barnes and FVV right here.

Lol? The Raptors have no pressure in this series. They weren’t even expected to be in the playoffs

Going in to this season, Masai called this a development year and we managed to make the playoffs. Getting playoff experience for guys like Scottie, Gary, and Precious is already a W in itself for us, win or lose

All the pressure is on the team that has an MVP candidate and made a blockbuster trade at the deadline for a guy who’s gonna be 33 this offseason.

There’s no possible way to twist the narrative of this series being pressure or “legacy series” for the Raptors

stormi · Post #349 » by **stormi** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:18 pm

PrinceAli wrote:
stormi wrote:
God Squad wrote:I like being the underdog with upset capability.

The Raptors are absolutely the favorites and it feels tremendous as a Sixers fan to not have that burden of being expected to win this one.

Legacy series for Siakam, Barnes and FVV right here.

Lol? The Raptors have no pressure in this series. They weren’t even expected to be in the playoffs

Going in to this season, Masai called this a development year and we managed to make the playoffs. Getting playoff experience for guys like Scottie, Gary, and Precious is already a W in itself for us, win or lose

All the pressure is on the team that has an MVP candidate and made a blockbuster trade at the deadline for a guy who’s gonna be 33 this offseason.

There’s no possible way to twist the narrative of this series being pressure or “legacy series” for the Raptors

Seems like everybody expects you to win. Pressure has shifted.

LarrySeinfeld · Post #350 » by **LarrySeinfeld** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:19 pm

stormi wrote:
God Squad wrote:I like being the underdog with upset capability.

The Raptors are absolutely the favorites and it feels tremendous as a Sixers fan to not have that burden of being expected to win this one.

Legacy series for Siakam, Barnes and FVV right here.

The pressure is all on Philly to perform after what they mortgaged on this season. I wouldn't look too much into a raptors dominated forum to get a consensus of what expectations will be. We all know what they are and the media analysts all seem to think Philly will win, actually they will have to.. if they don't things could blow up after all is said and done. This season has already been a success for the Raptors. The young players have improved and the future roster outlook is beginning to take shape. As a bonus they get a taste of playoff experience.

Legacy series for Harden, Morey and Doc right here.

stormi · Post #351 » by **stormi** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:20 pm

LarrySeinfeld wrote:We all know what they are and the media analysts all seem to think Philly will win, actually they will have to..

Lets **** go

LarrySeinfeld · Post #352 » by **LarrySeinfeld** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:23 pm

stormi wrote:
LarrySeinfeld wrote:We all know what they are and the media analysts all seem to think Philly will win, actually they will have to..

Lets **** go

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everdiso · Post #353 » by **everdiso** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:24 pm

SelfishPlayer wrote:
sycammer wrote:well for the raptors, this was a development year, no matter how this series turns out, the season is already a success.

Developmental year? Siakam, FVV, OG, Trent, and Young are all well paid vets. The Raptors aren't a developmental team with a "future." The Raps are a treadmill team hoping to develop a superstar and/or acquire one through trade. Signing a superstar through free agency is probably not an option with all things being considered.

Barnes - 20yrs, #4 pick
Achiuwa - 22yrs, #20 pick
Trent Jr. - 22yrs, #37 pick
Anunoby - 24yrs, #23 pick
Siakam - 27yrs, all-star
VanVleet - 27yrs, all-star

Strictly bench:

Boucher 28yrs
Birch 29yrs
Young 33yrs

Deep Bench

Flynn 23yrs, #29
Banton 22yrs, #46
Brooks 23yrs, Udrft
Champagnie 20yrs, Udrft

Bruin · Post #354 » by **Bruin** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:30 pm

stormi wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:
stormi wrote:
The Raptors are absolutely the favorites and it feels tremendous as a Sixers fan to not have that burden of being expected to win this one.

Legacy series for Siakam, Barnes and FVV right here.

Lol? The Raptors have no pressure in this series. They weren’t even expected to be in the playoffs

Going in to this season, Masai called this a development year and we managed to make the playoffs. Getting playoff experience for guys like Scottie, Gary, and Precious is already a W in itself for us, win or lose

All the pressure is on the team that has an MVP candidate and made a blockbuster trade at the deadline for a guy who’s gonna be 33 this offseason.

There’s no possible way to twist the narrative of this series being pressure or “legacy series” for the Raptors

Seems like everybody expects you to win. Pressure has shifted.

This just sounds like insecurity on your part. Sixers are still the betting odds favorite and it would be considered an upset if the Raptors win the series

Everyone knows who the pressure is on and it’s not us

stormi · Post #355 » by **stormi** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:36 pm

PrinceAli wrote:
stormi wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:Lol? The Raptors have no pressure in this series. They weren’t even expected to be in the playoffs

Going in to this season, Masai called this a development year and we managed to make the playoffs. Getting playoff experience for guys like Scottie, Gary, and Precious is already a W in itself for us, win or lose

All the pressure is on the team that has an MVP candidate and made a blockbuster trade at the deadline for a guy who’s gonna be 33 this offseason.

There’s no possible way to twist the narrative of this series being pressure or “legacy series” for the Raptors

Seems like everybody expects you to win. Pressure has shifted.

This just sounds like insecurity on your part. Sixers are still the betting odds favorite and it would be considered an upset if the Raptors win the series

Everyone knows who the pressure is on and it’s not us

Raptors fans being going on for weeks about how they wanted this matchup because they're our kryptonite and having the war codes to suffocate us into an easy submission, but then also trying to hang onto the upset card if they so shall not win is ****.

Pick a side.

sixers4real · Post #356 » by **sixers4real** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:36 pm

~65% of the poll says Raptors will win

Bruin · Post #357 » by **Bruin** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:37 pm

SelfishPlayer wrote:
sycammer wrote:well for the raptors, this was a development year, no matter how this series turns out, the season is already a success.

Developmental year? Siakam, FVV, OG, Trent, and Young are all well paid vets. The Raptors aren't a developmental team with a "future." The Raps are a treadmill team hoping to develop a superstar and/or acquire one through trade. Signing a superstar through free agency is probably not an option with all things being considered.

Uhm we’re one of the 10 youngest teams in the league (most of the other 10 are in the lottery) and we are starting 3 guys under 25 and the other 2 are 27

The average age of our team is 25 years (24 for our starting lineup)

stormi · Post #358 » by **stormi** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:37 pm

sixers4real wrote:~65% of the poll says Raptors will win

Legacy series for them.

Bruin · Post #359 » by **Bruin** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:38 pm

sixers4real wrote:~65% of the poll says Raptors will win

In case you haven’t noticed the biggest fan base of this forum is Raptors fans

Bruin · Post #360 » by **Bruin** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:39 pm

stormi wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:
stormi wrote:
Seems like everybody expects you to win. Pressure has shifted.

This just sounds like insecurity on your part. Sixers are still the betting odds favorite and it would be considered an upset if the Raptors win the series

Everyone knows who the pressure is on and it’s not us

Raptors fans being going on for weeks about how they wanted this matchup because they're our kryptonite and having the war codes to suffocate us into an easy submission, but then also trying to hang onto the upset card if they so shall not win is ****.

Pick a side.

Yes, out of the top 4 seeds Philly was the most preferred matchup. Does that make us favorites to win the series?

Series Prediction for 76ers vs. Raptors?