Victor Wembanyama Mega-Thread Part Two: Repurposed for your Wembanyama needs!

[tsherkin]

Obviously his offense is incredible.

But I'm amazed by his defense. He blocked OG like he was a toddler, he was making all the Raptors think twice before driving into the lane.

"Incredible" is a big word here. He has been a +1.5% rTS guy and -0.1 OBPM. He has shown all kinds of potential, but let's not get nuts on actual impact jist yet. That will come soon enough if he stays healthy.

Sorry. Offensive potential.

And now I'm with you again. Phenomenal potential, flashing lots of interesting foundations.

[BrooklynDynasty]

Rookie wall alert

[Phreak50]

Rookie wall alert

There’s no wall as yet.

When you have a guy that runs around shooting jumpers he will have on and off nights.

A combination of his lack of strength and experience and pathetic offense and passing is limiting his looks down low.

[JeffReal]

Wemby’s own teammates are his strongest opponents. They play like they are still tanking.

[BrooklynDynasty]

Wemby’s own teammates are his strongest opponents. They play like they are still tanking.

we're not really going to do the lebron "he needs more help" act with him for years and years and years are we?

every rookie except MJ and Kareem get humbled in this league. It's a tale as old as time

[JeffReal]

Wemby’s own teammates are his strongest opponents. They play like they are still tanking.

we're not really going to do the lebron "he needs more help" act with him for years and years and years are we?

every rookie except MJ and Kareem get humbled in this league. It's a tale as old as time

The Spurs don’t even have a point guard to speak of.

[BrooklynDynasty]

Wemby’s own teammates are his strongest opponents. They play like they are still tanking.

we're not really going to do the lebron "he needs more help" act with him for years and years and years are we?

every rookie except MJ and Kareem get humbled in this league. It's a tale as old as time

The Spurs don’t even have a point guard to speak of.

That's that, but if he wants to make a run as a top level player, let alone future GOAT candidate like some tab him as, he can't be dependent on PG play even this soon in his career. I think he'll settle into a groove but when you get slotted into the discussion as best draft prospect ever, I don't want to hear anything about a bad roster.


Also we're a few more games from having to open a discussion about his true defensive impact if Spurs remain near the bottom of the league in that department

[bananazn]

we're not really going to do the lebron "he needs more help" act with him for years and years and years are we?

every rookie except MJ and Kareem get humbled in this league. It's a tale as old as time

The Spurs don’t even have a point guard to speak of.

That's that, but if he wants to make a run as a top level player, let alone future GOAT candidate like some tab him as, he can't be dependent on PG play even this soon in his career. I think he'll settle into a groove but when you get slotted into the discussion as best draft prospect ever, I don't want to hear anything about a bad roster.


Also we're a few more games from having to open a discussion about his true defensive impact if Spurs remain near the bottom of the league in that department

Unless he improves his conditionning to play 48 min the spurs defense will remain bottom tier

[Pachinko_]

Wemby’s own teammates are his strongest opponents. They play like they are still tanking.

we're not really going to do the lebron "he needs more help" act with him for years and years and years are we?

every rookie except MJ and Kareem get humbled in this league. It's a tale as old as time

It helps that they started in this league 2 years older than Wemby.

[Sphynx]

Leading the league in block percentage so far. Which is crazy considering teams are actively avoiding him. Imagine if they actually went at him. GOAT potential was an accurate assessment of him. Now of course he more than likely isn’t reaching GOAT but that’s the kind of potential he has. I hope everything goes right and he can challenge for it though.

He might want to actually be the best rookie this year, before we even begin discussing things like the greatest of all time.

[holdenwait]

man said rookie wall after 7 games LMAO

[aj174]

I'm legit amazed by how good he looks, this kid is the real deal! Spurs and generational big men are like bread and butter

[Ballings7]

Wemby’s own teammates are his strongest opponents. They play like they are still tanking.

we're not really going to do the lebron "he needs more help" act with him for years and years and years are we?

every rookie except MJ and Kareem get humbled in this league. It's a tale as old as time

The Spurs don’t even have a point guard to speak of.

Tre Jones is solid. Good utility PG. Wemby and him on the floor Spurs have a high postive net-rating from what I saw recently.

From 11/5/23,

https://open.substack.com/pub/gnomp/p/three-little-figs-statistical-observations

https://www.pbpstats.com/wowy-combos/nba?TeamId=1610612759&Season=2023-24&SeasonType=Regular%2BSeason&PlayerIds=1641705,1630200

https://www.si.com/nba/spurs/news/tre-jones-san-antonio-spurs-paint-presence

Also Wemby plays noticably better when Jones is on the floor. Jones really should be starting at PG, and moving Sochan to front-court more often, to balance out the line-up but I understand developing Sochan's offensive game and experimenting.

Can't just discount Tre Jones because he isn't an all-star level lead guard, which he's not - but is productive and reliable on both ends.

Some people should pay attention more to the Spurs games before ruling out part of the roster.

[JeffReal]

…

The Spurs don’t even have a point guard to speak of.

Tre Jones is solid. Good utility PG. …

Take a look at that pbpstats link you posted, and check something. Choose Tre Jones, Sochan, and Wemby as the selected players. Then look at Tre Jones ON, with both Sochan and Wemby OFF. The DefRtg of that situation is 146.67.

Caution, incomplete data, small sample sizes, yada yada.

But that’s a hint of why the Spurs are trying the great Sochan Experiment. The Spurs defense was historically bad last season, and they would like to improve it. They do not see Jones as an answer.

Can't just discount Tre Jones because he isn't an all-star level lead guard, which he's not - but is productive and reliable on both ends.

“Both ends” you claim. Are you sure about that? He hustles and tries hard, granted.

Some people should pay attention more to the Spurs games before ruling out part of the roster.

Indeed, there are some people around who do need to pay more attention to the Spurs games. No doubt about it.

I guess Pop and the other Spurs coaches should have paid attention more to the Spurs games before they ruled out starting Jones at pg, eh? Naughty naughty on them.

In saying, a point guard to speak of, I mean one who is respectably good at both ends. Perhaps my standards are too high for the modern NBA.

My personal preference would be for Jones to start, since he does play better with Wemby, and for my viewing pleasure that’s what I care most about.

[Lalouie]

so here's the thing........
the spurs got blow'd out vs indy like a high school playing duke.
all they showed were wmby 3's, the 2 he made of 5.

like i get it. but he's going to make hilites on his own without espn's help!!!!!!!!!!
and hellz if i was the opposing team i let his shoot that 3 all day and night, so then when it REALLY matters i put a body on him and he won't be used a body there when it counts

[hardenASG13]

so here's the thing........
the spurs got blow'd out vs indy like a high school playing duke.
all they showed were wmby 3's, the 2 he made of 5.

like i get it. but he's going to make hilites on his own without espn's help!!!!!!!!!!
and hellz if i was the opposing team i let his shoot that 3 all day and night, so then when it REALLY matters i put a body on him and he won't be used a body there when it counts

What? He's hit numerous clutch jumpers in guys face in his first 6 games. The pacers game was ugly, they were on a back to back and blew the Toronto game the day before.

[Lalouie]

so here's the thing........
the spurs got blow'd out vs indy like a high school playing duke.
all they showed were wmby 3's, the 2 he made of 5.

like i get it. but he's going to make hilites on his own without espn's help!!!!!!!!!!
and hellz if i was the opposing team i let his shoot that 3 all day and night, so then when it REALLY matters i put a body on him and he won't be used a body there when it counts

What? He's hit numerous clutch jumpers in guys face in his first 6 games. The pacers game was ugly, they were on a back to back and blew the Toronto game the day before.

like i said. i wouldnt guard him. why should i???? he's 7'5!
let him go so he gets used to no one around him. then try putting a man on him when it matters. he'll still get the ball off but MAYBE he won't be used to a man on him

[TimDunkin]

we're not really going to do the lebron "he needs more help" act with him for years and years and years are we?

every rookie except MJ and Kareem get humbled in this league. It's a tale as old as time

The Spurs don’t even have a point guard to speak of.

That's that, but if he wants to make a run as a top level player, let alone future GOAT candidate like some tab him as, he can't be dependent on PG play even this soon in his career. I think he'll settle into a groove but when you get slotted into the discussion as best draft prospect ever, I don't want to hear anything about a bad roster.


Also we're a few more games from having to open a discussion about his true defensive impact if Spurs remain near the bottom of the league in that department

C'mon.

[SNPA]

Wemby’s own teammates are his strongest opponents. They play like they are still tanking.

every rookie except MJ and Kareem get humbled in this league. It's a tale as old as time

Bird.

[FrodoBaggins]

Those who think he doesn't need to add any lean body mass are fooling themselves. This guy becomes a different type of paint threat when he adds the strength, power, and associated muscle mass that comes along with it. Very much like Giannis.