Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team

[TheGeneral99]

I'm in the minority, but I think the Bucks should trade him while he has two years left on his contract regardless of whether he wants stay. The only viable alternative is to trade that 2031 1st to dump Dame for expiring deals and hope to make a brand new team in the summer of 2026 with cap space.

I don't think you are in the minority.

The Bucks have had an incredible decade with Giannis, culminating in two MVPs for him and a championship in 2021.

With Lopez getting older, Dame getting older, and Giannis at 30...they should capitalize now.

The Bucks could get a treasure trove for Giannis right now and also Lillard would still have a ton of trade value as well.

Only non-Bucks fans want to see Giannis traded, there is no trade package in the league that comes close to Giannis’s value or would be able to bridge the gap with our assets. It would be a decade of misery. No, we’re not trading Giannis for our own picks back. I am fine with Giannis going out like Dirk, he does not need to be on a 60 win team. You would need a gun to my head to agree to a Giannis trade. The Bucks will have more flexibility next season to make splashy moves.

You guys should start focusing on trying to get Jokic to leave Denver.

But the question is whether prime Giannis wants to stay on a team that cannot realistically compete for a title...

With Denver, Jokic needs more help but his core pieces in Murray, MPJ and Gordon are 28 years old, 26 years old, and 29 years old.

While Giannis has Dame who is 34 and just tore his achilles, Lopez who is 36, and Kuzma who is 29.

And I think if Denver doesn't win in the next 1-2 years, Jokic will also ask for a trade.

[jbk1234]

I'm in the minority, but I think the Bucks should trade him while he has two years left on his contract regardless of whether he wants stay. The only viable alternative is to trade that 2031 1st to dump Dame for expiring deals and hope to make a brand new team in the summer of 2026 with cap space.

I don't think you are in the minority.

The Bucks have had an incredible decade with Giannis, culminating in two MVPs for him and a championship in 2021.

With Lopez getting older, Dame getting older, and Giannis at 30...they should capitalize now.

The Bucks could get a treasure trove for Giannis right now and also Lillard would still have a ton of trade value as well.

Only non-Bucks fans want to see Giannis traded, there is no trade package in the league that comes close to Giannis’s value or would be able to bridge the gap with our assets. It would be a decade of misery. No, we’re not trading Giannis for our own picks back. I am fine with Giannis going out like Dirk, he does not need to be on a 60 win team. You would need a gun to my head to agree to a Giannis trade. The Bucks will have more flexibility next season to make splashy moves.

You guys should start focusing on trying to get Jokic to leave Denver.

No one is trying to get Giannis to leave. It doesn't matter to me personally whether he stays or goes. However, as a team that has watched LBJ leave for nothing, twice, I'm offering my opinion as to what's in the best interest of the Bucks. I can squint and see a scenario where they wait until next summer, attach their 2031 pick to Dame, and clear cap, or receive a more useful player, and then use cap space to acquire a third guy. It's just that a lot of dominoes need to fall into place for that to work and the downside risk to it not working are very serious.

[RRyder823]

Man listen, it's really important you understand that you're a Bucks fan. There are things exaggerated for you that are not exaggerated for us. I barely remember any news about Giannis getting traded and I've been visiting this site for 10 years. There's been tons of players rumored and yes I'm sure Giannis has been one of them. Other than the MVP candidates, no one goes untouched.

This dramatic world where everyone is trying to get Giannis out of Milwaukee is only the experience of Bucks fans. There's no conspiracy. Lots of journalists make up fake stuff and we all know that - you're not especially informed about that. Some are right sometimes. Some are often telling the truth that someone told them.

The contract, context and team situation are what make this the first time anyone can take a Giannis rumor seriously. Trust me, we (Rockets) heard about trading Hakeem constantly before he was traded. We heard about Harden in trade rumors before the real news started circling. There's a massive difference between random rumors and when news is real. These are not random rumors. He has 2 guaranteed years on his contract, he's an athleticism-based 31 year old who will decline quickly, that's a small market that can't let assets just retire/walk without recouping value, they've been knocked out of the first round, his sidekick is likely out most of next season, waiting one more year means he gets to dictate where he goes. There are realities here you have to wake up to. Even if you don't believe he's going to get traded - which is a fair prediction - you sitting here and acting like nothing is going on just shows us you're out of touch with reality. You're not looking at the good and the bad. You're just praying and that's why your voice won't hold any weight to anyone.

When we hear a Bucks fan going "there are serious issues, this is a legit question, my prediction is yes/no about the trade" then we're communicating with someone who's willing to stop being so fearful and just discuss things. I'm telling you honestly, this is a situation. This is not all manufactured. There's a possibility the ownership and management have to consider for the well-being of the franchise EVEN if Giannis doesn't want to move. You may be ok with it but it's not a commercially smart decision and small market teams that get emotionally attached always get burned. You better hope your management is being business-minded. Giannis is a once in a lifetime player but there's not many years left on that body. If you can get 3-4 players worth $20-25m that's a great place to start rebuilding a champion. Nothing to be ashamed of. You'll win again, Giannis is not your only hope.

Really feel bad for you guys. We're all just discussing things here and it feels like some of you want to just kick and scream because you can't practice some acceptance that there's some danger on the table. There's no conspiracy going on here, this is real life. You'll be alright no matter what happens, whichever way the franchise goes there's work to be done that will be very fun to do.

Sure thing. Keep telling yourself that. Every few months over the better part of the last decade a thread like this very one has popped up based on a innocuous tweet or article based on nothing other then someone's opinion and then taken and ran with

If you want to pretend that hasn't happened well then ok. You do you. It's not Bucks fans "kicking and screaming". It's Bucks fans telling you to give it a rest. But alas we know this thread will pop up again in 4 months because some "reporter" didn't like Giannis face when he was on the bench

And as an FYI no Bucks fans are acting like everything is all sunshine and roses. We know there isnt a clear path to contending with or without Giannis. We'd simply rather have Giannis and hope to catch lightning in a bottle with a few other moves then not having Giannis.

Hell if the Bucks had control of their own picks you could probably even sell me on a trade. But they don't so what your really selling is the idea that shipping off the most beloved player in the franchises history, without his request to do so, for a better chance to be a middling team 5 years from now

What you don't seem to be understanding is just how bad the Bucks were for how long before Giannis. I started getting into the NBA roughly in 1990 and saw the Bucks win exactly 2 PO series my entire life (both in the same season) before Giannis.

Dont act shocked or try and show empathy when all Bucks fans aren't scared to absolute death of the prospect of 2nd round ceilings because their superstar doesn't want to leave. For over 30 years round 2 was a dream






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See man it’s hard to have a realistic conversation with you. You actually think I’m pretending something. You don’t realize we don’t notice every single bucks rumor. You don’t realize our social media and YouTube front page is different than yours. What does it mean when you have to ignore the content of what someone is telling you and jump to the conclusion that they’re pretending? That’s called avoidance.

By the end of the post at least you reveal exactly what I’m saying. You’re terrified of having a 2nd round ceiling forever (highly unlikely). What’s crazy about that is you haven’t gotten past the first round for 3 consecutive playoffs IIRC. Lillard is out next season so there goes next season too. You’re clinging on to an addiction here, you think you’ll die without this.

You’ll be fine dude, it’s really not only about having Giannis. As you can see poor management and injuries can make you hard capped at round 2 even with a superstar. You can rebuild like the Pacers, like OKC, like the Rockets. Have a little faith in yourselves.

You loved Giannis being ultra competitive for all these years and that’s who he is. He’s not the “oh well, fingers crossed” guy.

Both for him and for Milwaukee, personally I’m glad it’s being seriously considered this one time.

You really think you said something profound here. Also learn to read

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[JayMKE]

I don't think you are in the minority.

The Bucks have had an incredible decade with Giannis, culminating in two MVPs for him and a championship in 2021.

With Lopez getting older, Dame getting older, and Giannis at 30...they should capitalize now.

The Bucks could get a treasure trove for Giannis right now and also Lillard would still have a ton of trade value as well.

Only non-Bucks fans want to see Giannis traded, there is no trade package in the league that comes close to Giannis’s value or would be able to bridge the gap with our assets. It would be a decade of misery. No, we’re not trading Giannis for our own picks back. I am fine with Giannis going out like Dirk, he does not need to be on a 60 win team. You would need a gun to my head to agree to a Giannis trade. The Bucks will have more flexibility next season to make splashy moves.

You guys should start focusing on trying to get Jokic to leave Denver.

No one is trying to get Giannis to leave. It doesn't matter to me personally whether he stays or goes. However, as a team that has watched LBJ leave for nothing, twice, I'm offering my opinion as to what's in the best interest of the Bucks. I can squint and see a scenario where they wait until next summer, attach their 2031 pick to Dame, and clear cap, or receive a more useful player, and then use cap space to acquire a third guy. It's just that a lot of dominoes need to fall into place for that to work and the downside risk to it not working are very serious.

Do you think the Cavs should have dealt LeBron during either of his stints in Cleveland? It seems crazy a Cavs fan of anyone would advocate cashing out. Nothing the Bucks get back are going to make them contenders, there aren’t any young MVPs being offered up, not one of these deals people have talked about is close to worth it

And yes espn has desperately wanted Giannis out of Milwaukee for over a decade, more fabricated nonsense. Jokic is not marketable so they do not bother with him despite the abomination that the Nuggets org is. It’s just pure narrative driven bullsh*t.

[TheGeneral99]

Only non-Bucks fans want to see Giannis traded, there is no trade package in the league that comes close to Giannis’s value or would be able to bridge the gap with our assets. It would be a decade of misery. No, we’re not trading Giannis for our own picks back. I am fine with Giannis going out like Dirk, he does not need to be on a 60 win team. You would need a gun to my head to agree to a Giannis trade. The Bucks will have more flexibility next season to make splashy moves.

You guys should start focusing on trying to get Jokic to leave Denver.

No one is trying to get Giannis to leave. It doesn't matter to me personally whether he stays or goes. However, as a team that has watched LBJ leave for nothing, twice, I'm offering my opinion as to what's in the best interest of the Bucks. I can squint and see a scenario where they wait until next summer, attach their 2031 pick to Dame, and clear cap, or receive a more useful player, and then use cap space to acquire a third guy. It's just that a lot of dominoes need to fall into place for that to work and the downside risk to it not working are very serious.

Do you think the Cavs should have dealt LeBron during either of his stints in Cleveland? It seems crazy a Cavs fan of anyone would advocate cashing out. Nothing the Bucks get back are going to make them contenders, there aren’t any young MVPs being offered up, not one of these deals people have talked about is close to worth it

They are different scenarios and I will tell you why:

1) During Lebron's first stint he was 26 years old and the Cavaliers had not won a championship. It was pretty unprecedented what Lebron did, to join a super team in free agency.

2) During Lebron's second stint the Cavaliers had won a chip in 2016 and made the finals in 2017 and 2018. They were still clear contenders competing for a title every year.

3) With the Bucks Giannis has won a championship and he is 30 years old. In 2022, 2023, 2024 and 2025 the Bucks have flamed out in the playoffs and have not got past the 2nd round. The Dame trade is turning out to be a disaster, especially now that he tore his achilles. His supporting cast isn't good.

I think it's mutually beneficial for the Bucks to trade him as they can get a ton of value back right now and Giannis gets to finish his prime on a contender potentially. We don't know what trade offers are on the table right now because the Bucks havn't entered those discussions. But lets say hypothetically the Spurs are willing to trade the #2 pick and Castle for Giannis...do you like that? If OKC is willing to give away Holmgren, Dort, Wiggins and three or four 1st round picks, do you do that?

[JayMKE]

No one is trying to get Giannis to leave. It doesn't matter to me personally whether he stays or goes. However, as a team that has watched LBJ leave for nothing, twice, I'm offering my opinion as to what's in the best interest of the Bucks. I can squint and see a scenario where they wait until next summer, attach their 2031 pick to Dame, and clear cap, or receive a more useful player, and then use cap space to acquire a third guy. It's just that a lot of dominoes need to fall into place for that to work and the downside risk to it not working are very serious.

Do you think the Cavs should have dealt LeBron during either of his stints in Cleveland? It seems crazy a Cavs fan of anyone would advocate cashing out. Nothing the Bucks get back are going to make them contenders, there aren’t any young MVPs being offered up, not one of these deals people have talked about is close to worth it

They are different scenarios and I will tell you why:

1) During Lebron's first stint he was 26 years old and the Cavaliers had not won a championship.

2) During Lebron's second stint the Cavaliers had won a chip in 2016 and made the finals in 2017 and 2018. They were still clear contenders competing for a title every year.

3) With the Bucks Giannis has won a championship and he is 30 years old. In 2022, 2023 and 2024 the Bucks have flamed out in the playoffs and have not got past the 2nd round. The Dame trade is turning out to be a disaster, especially now that he tore his achilles. His supporting cast isn't good.

1) that’s not what the point was and the context you’re adding has no meaning to anybody but yourself.

2)injuries happen

Bucks aren’t trading Giannis because you or ESPN would rather see him play somewhere else. Bucks fans don’t care if you think there is a ceiling on the team, it’s still better than the alternative. The poo poo platter is not enticing.

[JayMKE]

I think it's mutually beneficial for the Bucks to trade him as they can get a ton of value back right now and Giannis gets to finish his prime on a contender potentially. We don't know what trade offers are on the table right now because the Bucks havn't entered those discussions. But lets say hypothetically the Spurs are willing to trade the #2 pick and Castle for Giannis...do you like that? If OKC is willing to give away Holmgren, Dort, Wiggins and three or four 1st round picks, do you do that?

No to both of those trades, they both suck. The Bucks aren’t going to be able to build anything around those assets. Castle is closer to MCW than people want to admit, the Rutgers kids will bust. Chet is a human toothpick with a worse NBA body than Zion, all those picks are mediocre at best. Roleplayers serve no purpose on a **** awful team without control of its own draft picks.

Bucks will hold on to Giannis, ESPN can just seethe.

[jbk1234]

Only non-Bucks fans want to see Giannis traded, there is no trade package in the league that comes close to Giannis’s value or would be able to bridge the gap with our assets. It would be a decade of misery. No, we’re not trading Giannis for our own picks back. I am fine with Giannis going out like Dirk, he does not need to be on a 60 win team. You would need a gun to my head to agree to a Giannis trade. The Bucks will have more flexibility next season to make splashy moves.

You guys should start focusing on trying to get Jokic to leave Denver.

No one is trying to get Giannis to leave. It doesn't matter to me personally whether he stays or goes. However, as a team that has watched LBJ leave for nothing, twice, I'm offering my opinion as to what's in the best interest of the Bucks. I can squint and see a scenario where they wait until next summer, attach their 2031 pick to Dame, and clear cap, or receive a more useful player, and then use cap space to acquire a third guy. It's just that a lot of dominoes need to fall into place for that to work and the downside risk to it not working are very serious.

Do you think the Cavs should have dealt LeBron during either of his stints in Cleveland? It seems crazy a Cavs fan of anyone would advocate cashing out. Nothing the Bucks get back are going to make them contenders, there aren’t any young MVPs being offered up, not one of these deals people have talked about is close to worth it

And yes espn has desperately wanted Giannis out of Milwaukee for over a decade, more fabricated nonsense. Jokic is not marketable so they do not bother with him despite the abomination that the Nuggets org is. It’s just pure narrative driven bullsh*t.

LBJ had veto rights his second go around, but after LBJ declined to extend his last year, and Kyrie forced a trade, I absolutely would've traded LBJ for the best offer I could've gotten. We weren't winning a championship against the Warriors when they had Durant, rebuilds suck, and shortening the duration of rebuilds is a worthwhile goal.

[GusT15]

No team has the assets to trade for Giannis

Come on now,say the Spurs offer

Castle
Vassell
Keldon

2025 Spurs 1st (#2-Dylan Harper)
2026 Atlanta 1st Swap
2027 Atlanta 1st Unprotected
2028 Boston 1st (protected #1)
2030 Dallas/Minessota 1st (most favourable swap)
2031 Sacramento 1st Swap

Plus 11 second round picks availlabe to add if necessary

You really think the Bucks say no?
To an offer that makes them young,set at backcourt for 10 years,financially viable,plus gives them drafting options for their future?

Just cause a team like the Spurs prefer to content organically and last for a decade instead of a 3 year window with Giannis,doesn't mean that no team has the assets...

But you can't really tell me that in the summer of 2027 the Bucks will be a better team with Giannis instead of that trade package...

[JayMKE]

No team has the assets to trade for Giannis

Come on now,say the Spurs offer

Castle
Vassell
Keldon

2025 Spurs 1st (#2-Dylan Harper)
2026 Atlanta 1st Swap
2027 Atlanta 1st Unprotected
2028 Boston 1st (protected #1)
2030 Dallas/Minessota 1st (most favourable swap)
2031 Sacramento 1st Swap

Plus 11 second round picks availlabe to add if necessary

You really think the Bucks say no?
To an offer that makes them young,set at backcourt for 10 years,financially viable,plus gives them drafting options for their future?

Just cause a team like the Spurs prefer to content organically and last for a decade instead of a 3 year window with Giannis,doesn't mean that no team has the assets...

But you can't really tell me that in the summer of 2027 the Bucks will be a better team with Giannis instead of that trade package...

Giannis by himself is better than that in 2027. If the Spurs had the #1 pick maybe it would be more interesting but I do not want the Rutgers players I think they will bust so this #2 is not worth much to me. Castle, Vassell, Keldon don’t convey at value to me. The other picks are mediocre. That Bucks team is not a contender and has no path to becoming one. There is no one in the NBA with the assets needed, give us a future MVP and franchise player otherwise no. I have no interest in a lukewarm return, it has to be the most obscene and crippling package in NBA history otherwise the Bucks should just try to retool around Giannis best they can.

[RRyder823]

No team has the assets to trade for Giannis

Come on now,say the Spurs offer

Castle
Vassell
Keldon

2025 Spurs 1st (#2-Dylan Harper)
2026 Atlanta 1st Swap
2027 Atlanta 1st Unprotected
2028 Boston 1st (protected #1)
2030 Dallas/Minessota 1st (most favourable swap)
2031 Sacramento 1st Swap

Plus 11 second round picks availlabe to add if necessary

You really think the Bucks say no?
To an offer that makes them young,set at backcourt for 10 years,financially viable,plus gives them drafting options for their future?

Just cause a team like the Spurs prefer to content organically and last for a decade instead of a 3 year window with Giannis,doesn't mean that no team has the assets...

But you can't really tell me that in the summer of 2027 the Bucks will be a better team with Giannis instead of that trade package...

He's saying no team has the package to make trading him worth while

If the Bucks make that trade they just might be able to be a play in team in 4-5 years

Without your own picks a there is no "jump start on a rebuild trade"

The trade IS the rebuild. And no there isnt a team that is gonna put together an offer that allows that

As for your last part if the Bucks manage to make just one good trade with a secondary piece within the next 2 years (much like MaJon for KPJ as an example) then yes I would say they'd be able to pretty easily have a better team in 2027 then that package provides



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[GusT15]

Giannis by himself is better than that in 2027. If the Spurs had the #1 pick maybe it would be more interesting but I do not want the Rutgers players I think they will bust so this #2 is not worth much to me. Castle, Vassell, Keldon don’t convey at value to me. The other picks are mediocre. That Bucks team is not a contender and has no path to becoming one. There is no one in the NBA with the assets needed, give us a future MVP and franchise player otherwise no. I have no interest in a lukewarm return, it has to be the most obscene and crippling package in NBA history otherwise the Bucks should just try to retool around Giannis best they can.

No,i mean,i get it,it's not equal value for the foreseeable future,but you're not a contender with Giannis as well.We're talking rebuild.

And Castle,Vassell,Keldon doesn't sound like value to you but 2 of those 3 would start or be the 2 first off the bench on last years Bucks...
That's how empty the Bucks talent pool is unfortunately.

Anyways,i totally get wanting the best player in franchise history to stay in Milwaukee for life,even if it means a decade of misery after he's gone.

[JayMKE]

Giannis by himself is better than that in 2027. If the Spurs had the #1 pick maybe it would be more interesting but I do not want the Rutgers players I think they will bust so this #2 is not worth much to me. Castle, Vassell, Keldon don’t convey at value to me. The other picks are mediocre. That Bucks team is not a contender and has no path to becoming one. There is no one in the NBA with the assets needed, give us a future MVP and franchise player otherwise no. I have no interest in a lukewarm return, it has to be the most obscene and crippling package in NBA history otherwise the Bucks should just try to retool around Giannis best they can.

No,i mean,i get it,it's not equal value for the foreseeable future,but you're not a contender with Giannis as well.We're talking rebuild.

And Castle,Vassell,Keldon doesn't sound like value to you but 2 of those 3 would start or be the 2 first off the bench on last years Bucks...
That's how empty the Bucks talent pool is unfortunately.

Anyways,i totally get wanting the best player in franchise history to stay in Milwaukee for life,even if it means a decade of misery after he's gone.

If the Spurs want to send those guys for free to play with Giannis in Milwaukee then maybe they would have value but without Giannis they are worthless.

There is a hangover either way, I’m not cutting it short while Giannis is still in his prime. I think the Bucks can retool around Giannis, the east is still pretty wide open.

[GusT15]

If the Spurs want to send those guys for free to play with Giannis in Milwaukee then maybe they would have value but without Giannis they are worthless.

There is a hangover either way, I’m not cutting it short while Giannis is still in his prime. I think the Bucks can retool around Giannis, the east is still pretty wide open.

I really don't see a way to retool with no draft assets,with an old roster,with 120 millions owed to an injured Dame till 2027,but yeah,the East is open i'll agree on that.

Honestly,i hope Horst finds a way.
Cheers.

[JayMKE]

If the Spurs want to send those guys for free to play with Giannis in Milwaukee then maybe they would have value but without Giannis they are worthless.

There is a hangover either way, I’m not cutting it short while Giannis is still in his prime. I think the Bucks can retool around Giannis, the east is still pretty wide open.

I really don't see a way to retool with no draft assets,with an old roster,with 120 millions owed to an injured Dame till 2027,but yeah,the East is open i'll agree on that.

Honestly,i hope Horst finds a way.
Cheers.

Bucks will have more flexibility next offseason, Dame and Kuzma are huge expiring salaries then. Dame was still pretty good before he got hurt too, I am cautiously optimistic he can return for the playoffs next season. Horst will have to find more contributors off of the scrap heap, fortunately this is one of things he has shown some aptitude at. I’m not going to worry about the regular season, have your guy healthy for the playoffs.

[pieguyxx]

If the Spurs want to send those guys for free to play with Giannis in Milwaukee then maybe they would have value but without Giannis they are worthless.

There is a hangover either way, I’m not cutting it short while Giannis is still in his prime. I think the Bucks can retool around Giannis, the east is still pretty wide open.

I really don't see a way to retool with no draft assets,with an old roster,with 120 millions owed to an injured Dame till 2027,but yeah,the East is open i'll agree on that.

Honestly,i hope Horst finds a way.
Cheers.

Bucks will have more flexibility next offseason, Dame and Kuzma are huge expiring salaries then. Dame was still pretty good before he got hurt too, I am cautiously optimistic he can return for the playoffs next season. Horst will have to find more contributors off of the scrap heap, fortunately this is one of things he has shown some aptitude at. I’m not going to worry about the regular season, have your guy healthy for the playoffs.

If Giannis stays its pure out of loyalty. Bucks have control of none of their picks. His #2 is coming off an achilles injury. Due to the CBA stars rarely hit FA. And even if they did Bucks are located in Milwaukee not a prime FA destination. Oh and his coach is Doc Rivers who I am sure is a nice guy and a players coach, but is Doc Rivers at the end of the day.

[JayMKE]

I really don't see a way to retool with no draft assets,with an old roster,with 120 millions owed to an injured Dame till 2027,but yeah,the East is open i'll agree on that.

Honestly,i hope Horst finds a way.
Cheers.

Bucks will have more flexibility next offseason, Dame and Kuzma are huge expiring salaries then. Dame was still pretty good before he got hurt too, I am cautiously optimistic he can return for the playoffs next season. Horst will have to find more contributors off of the scrap heap, fortunately this is one of things he has shown some aptitude at. I’m not going to worry about the regular season, have your guy healthy for the playoffs.

If Giannis stays its pure out of loyalty. Bucks have control of none of their picks. His #2 is coming off an achilles injury. Due to the CBA stars rarely hit FA. And even if they did Bucks are located in Milwaukee not a prime FA destination. Oh and his coach is Doc Rivers who I am sure is a nice guy and a players coach, but is Doc Rivers at the end of the day.

Ok and? What’s the point? Do you have one?

If Giannis didn’t want Doc as coach then he wouldn’t be coach.

[G R E Y]

Bucks will have more flexibility next offseason, Dame and Kuzma are huge expiring salaries then. Dame was still pretty good before he got hurt too, I am cautiously optimistic he can return for the playoffs next season. Horst will have to find more contributors off of the scrap heap, fortunately this is one of things he has shown some aptitude at. I’m not going to worry about the regular season, have your guy healthy for the playoffs.

If Giannis stays its pure out of loyalty. Bucks have control of none of their picks. His #2 is coming off an achilles injury. Due to the CBA stars rarely hit FA. And even if they did Bucks are located in Milwaukee not a prime FA destination. Oh and his coach is Doc Rivers who I am sure is a nice guy and a players coach, but is Doc Rivers at the end of the day.

Ok and? What’s the point? Do you have one?

If Giannis didn’t want Doc as coach then he wouldn’t be coach.

If anything, Giannis being swayed to stay for/by Doc doesn't show well of GA's discernment.

[Infinite Llamas]

I hope Giannis doesn’t get traded…because it would most likely be to the west and the last thing we need is another star defecting to the west. The balance of star power between the east and west is so lopsided right now it isn’t even funny.

Jordan/Shaq/Pip/Reggie/Zo/Ewing/Dominique/Penny and Grant Hill…the early 90’s were the last time when the east was stacked.

[JRoy]

No team has the assets to trade for Giannis

Come on now,say the Spurs offer

Castle
Vassell
Keldon

2025 Spurs 1st (#2-Dylan Harper)
2026 Atlanta 1st Swap
2027 Atlanta 1st Unprotected
2028 Boston 1st (protected #1)
2030 Dallas/Minessota 1st (most favourable swap)
2031 Sacramento 1st Swap

Plus 11 second round picks availlabe to add if necessary

You really think the Bucks say no?
To an offer that makes them young,set at backcourt for 10 years,financially viable,plus gives them drafting options for their future?

Just cause a team like the Spurs prefer to content organically and last for a decade instead of a 3 year window with Giannis,doesn't mean that no team has the assets...

But you can't really tell me that in the summer of 2027 the Bucks will be a better team with Giannis instead of that trade package...

Giannis by himself is better than that in 2027. If the Spurs had the #1 pick maybe it would be more interesting but I do not want the Rutgers players I think they will bust so this #2 is not worth much to me. Castle, Vassell, Keldon don’t convey at value to me. The other picks are mediocre. That Bucks team is not a contender and has no path to becoming one. There is no one in the NBA with the assets needed, give us a future MVP and franchise player otherwise no. I have no interest in a lukewarm return, it has to be the most obscene and crippling package in NBA history otherwise the Bucks should just try to retool around Giannis best they can.

If MIL decides to rebuild they will want to get their picks and swaps back, provided that isn’t too costly.

The problem is MIL has NOTHING that might be more valuable than those picks unless as part of a 3 team deal to bring in assets.

MIL is in a tough place. Will be interesting to see how they navigate it.