2013-14 MVP Discussion Thread Pt III

[James Rustles]

LeBron could have an awful five games in a row, then "explode" for 45 against Philly and he'll be back in the media MVP race.

lmao so true

[KING JAMES1978]

It's hysterically laughable that some youngsters crown Durant the MVP 20 games before the season ends when Durant's team lost from Lakers two days ago and Lebron yesterday had 10-15 fg% and 0 free throws for second straight game and their Idol KD shoot today 16 FT which is ridiculous for a shooter.

You kidding yourselves if you think that Durant has big advantage right now.I'm not sure even if he has an advantage.

Let alone that OKC is #2 at West right now.Just sayin...

someone sounds mad salty and in denial bro.

next step is acceptance

Mad?Lol hell no.
So Is Durant 2014 MVP?Ok I will not post again=Acceptance!
Will be funny

[koolcrud]

It's hysterically laughable that some youngsters crown Durant the MVP 20 games before the season ends when Durant's team lost from Lakers two days ago and Lebron yesterday had 10-15 fg% and 0 free throws for second straight game and their Idol KD shoot today 16 FT which is ridiculous for a shooter.

You kidding yourselves if you think that Durant has big advantage right now.I'm not sure even if he has an advantage.

Let alone that OKC is #2 at West right now.Just sayin...

So LeBron should get credit for not being able to get to the line?

[raps_aviator]

LeBron could have an awful five games in a row, then "explode" for 45 against Philly and he'll be back in the media MVP race.

lmao so true

Except Lebron never has awful five games in a row.

[QPR]

Yeah that wasn't meant to be a literal example, just that (IMO) Durant has been clearly the best and most valuable player over the whole season, but every time LeBron has a big game he's suddenly back in the hunt or it's neck and neck again.

[rcontador]

Eh, the media just wants a race.

At the end of the season I'm pretty sure Durant will win it handily, because -- well, 5 MVPs right now puts Lebron on pace to win like 8 in his career... and if a player's gonna get 8 MVPs, they all better be indisputable.

[KING JAMES1978]

It's hysterically laughable that some youngsters crown Durant the MVP 20 games before the season ends when Durant's team lost from Lakers two days ago and Lebron yesterday had 10-15 fg% and 0 free throws for second straight game and their Idol KD shoot today 16 FT which is ridiculous for a shooter.

You kidding yourselves if you think that Durant has big advantage right now.I'm not sure even if he has an advantage.

Let alone that OKC is #2 at West right now.Just sayin...

So LeBron should get credit for not being able to get to the line?

No but is ridiculous how easily KD get to the line unlike Lebron.

[QPR]

Durant has now matched his own mark of 29 straight games of 25+ points. The record is MJ with 40 I believe.

[HotRocks34]

Durant needed the win tonight to keep pace. He was beginning to lose the narrative with the embarrassing loss to the Lakers and OKC's 3-5 record since the All-Star Game. Tonight's game gets him back on track. Still, San Antonio overtaking the Thunder in the West doesn't help. But there are plenty of games yet to play.

Tonight's win against a streaking Rockets squad shakes up that recent negative narrative, and takes away the sting of dropping recent games to the likes of the Lakers and Cleveland (in OKC).

Race is pretty much even with Durant in a slight lead because OKC has the better winning percentage (.734 to .721). Stats probably won't get it done, particularly if neither OKC nor Miami finishes first in their conference. Better winning percentage, I think, will rule the day.

LeBron broke out of his slump against the Wizards. He will need to continue to shine moving forward to stay level with Durant.

[IG2]

@ that game Durant had. Some great shooting, no doubt, but boy do the refs make it nearly impossible to play any kind of serious D on him. His advantage goes so much beyond the obscene amount of free throws he gets. Refs set such a precedent with those whistles, nobody bothers playing him that tightly at any other point of the game either.

[C0bR]

My advice for LeBron if he wants to get back into the MVP race next year is to shed 40 pounds, grow a bigger beard and flop like a little bitch everytime he touches the ball

Durant can win all he wants, but he will always be a classless disgrace to the game

[QPR]

He didn't need the win tonight to "keep pace" because he was already ahead.

Honestly HotRocks, you're a bigger LeBron homer than I am a KD homer, except you try to be subtle about it.

Westbrook missing 30 games = KD MVP, that narrative should trump anything anyone else has done this season, and certainly isn't going to be erased by a very small .500 "slump".

[HotRocks34]

He didn't need the win tonight to "keep pace" because he was already ahead.

Honestly HotRocks, you're a bigger LeBron homer than I am a KD homer, except you try to be subtle about it.

Westbrook missing 30 games = KD MVP, that narrative should trump anything anyone else has done this season, and certainly isn't going to be erased by a very small .500 "slump".

I'm just trying to be honest from my perspective. Short term narrative matters and going 3-5 since the All Star break with most of the games at home and with an embarrassing national TV loss to the last-place Lakers as well as a home loss to Cleveland isn't good. Heat went 0-3 in their last 3 (before yesterday) but they were rolling since the All Star break before the skid, and they lost to three solid or top teams.

I think Durant's two best arguments are the "Without Westbrook" and the "Better Winning Percentage" ones. But January was awhile ago now, just like LeBron's hot season start was awhile ago. Stats don't necessarily make the difference, as 2008 showed. This is why I keep coming back to winning percentage. And KD has that, so I think he's ahead. And had OKC lost tonight, then KD doesn't have that. Which is one reason, among others, I thought the win was important tonight to keep pace. LeBron won yesterday, Durant won today. And Durant won and looked good winning.

Nobody has to agree with my arguments. But that doesn't mean I don't get to have my own opinion.

[HotRocks34]

My advice for LeBron if he wants to get back into the MVP race next year is to shed 40 pounds, grow a bigger beard and flop like a little bitch everytime he touches the ball

Durant can win all he wants, but he will always be a classless disgrace to the game

I And-1'd this not because I necessarily agree with it, but because it made me laugh. Thanks!

[kingkirk]

My advice for LeBron if he wants to get back into the MVP race next year is to shed 40 pounds, grow a bigger beard and flop like a little bitch everytime he touches the ball

Durant can win all he wants, but he will always be a classless disgrace to the game

Yes, when i think of Kevin Durant, the first thing i think is that the is a complete disgrace.

You sir, nailed it!

[DontH8TheBrody]

Like I have seen a few post before me, I feel like the MVP race has almost all been "what have you done for me lately?" Everytime LeBron has a huge game, its "he's the king, he has taken back his crown" and when KD goes off for 42 like tonight everyone just goes back to on his jock strap..

Both have had amazing years. I just feel from beginning of the season to currently, KD has been the MVP. We all talk about the historic January tear without Russ, but this guy has been a downright killer all season long. I am almost shocked now when he doesn't drop 30, he is averaging career highs in pts/assists/reb and he has his team a half game back of first in a very deep west. If Lebron gets back on one of those crazy tears and KD cools off all bets are off, but I just feel KD has been the dude all year long.

[makaveli_99]

He didn't need the win tonight to "keep pace" because he was already ahead.

Honestly HotRocks, you're a bigger LeBron homer than I am a KD homer, except you try to be subtle about it.

Westbrook missing 30 games = KD MVP, that narrative should trump anything anyone else has done this season, and certainly isn't going to be erased by a very small .500 "slump".

agree with KD being ahead... people act like OKC should have a better record, or be tied with Miami... but this isn't the case. They are playing in a much tougher conference, and played without westbrook for so many games. People get tired of hearing that, but it is what it is.

With wade, Miami had the choice of sitting him out for various games. On back to back's he would sit out against a charlotte, and then play vs houston. This is different than westbrook being out for months in a row.

they're both great players and either of them could get it, but imo kd has just had to do more with what he was given and he has done a remarkable job at that. You would expect Miami to have a better record than okc considering all the facts.

[RSCD3_]

He didn't need the win tonight to "keep pace" because he was already ahead.

Honestly HotRocks, you're a bigger LeBron homer than I am a KD homer, except you try to be subtle about it.

Westbrook missing 30 games = KD MVP, that narrative should trump anything anyone else has done this season, and certainly isn't going to be erased by a very small .500 "slump".

agree with KD being ahead... people act like OKC should have a better record, or be tied with Miami... but this isn't the case. They are playing in a much tougher conference, and played without westbrook for so many games. People get tired of hearing that, but it is what it is.

With wade, Miami had the choice of sitting him out for various games. On back to back's he would sit out against a charlotte, and then play vs houston. This is different than westbrook being out for months in a row.

they're both great players and either of them could get it, but imo kd has just had to do more with what he was given and he has done a remarkable job at that. You would expect Miami to have a better record than okc considering all the facts.

Yes it is different durant was able to develop chemistry with the same guys instead of playing with wade and then without him back and forth.

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[hisairness]

He didn't need the win tonight to "keep pace" because he was already ahead.

Honestly HotRocks, you're a bigger LeBron homer than I am a KD homer, except you try to be subtle about it.

Westbrook missing 30 games = KD MVP, that narrative should trump anything anyone else has done this season, and certainly isn't going to be erased by a very small .500 "slump".

agree with KD being ahead... people act like OKC should have a better record, or be tied with Miami... but this isn't the case. They are playing in a much tougher conference, and played without westbrook for so many games. People get tired of hearing that, but it is what it is.

With wade, Miami had the choice of sitting him out for various games. On back to back's he would sit out against a charlotte, and then play vs houston. This is different than westbrook being out for months in a row.

they're both great players and either of them could get it, but imo kd has just had to do more with what he was given and he has done a remarkable job at that. You would expect Miami to have a better record than okc considering all the facts.

It is almost amazing how that stretch Durant had without Westbrook is getting swept under the rug; people are acting what Durant did was expected and OKC should be held to the same record standards as Miami. OKC was expected to simply tread the water until Russell came back but not only they did better than that, they went on to have the best record in the league, while Durant had one of the all time extended best stretches in NBA history by any player.

How is this race almost even when Lebron doesn't even have stats advantage? After last night's game ppl are acting like KD took back the lead, why didn't he have a lead in the first place? Bcuz of Bron's 61 point game? Please smh

[Hero]

All I saw last night was KD stop the bleeding after OKC's poor stretch. The race is still very close and will likely come down to record.