ECQF: P2 | (2) Cleveland Cavaliers vs Indiana Pacers (7) | CLE 4-0

[jbk1234]

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I'm not saying the Cavs defense is fixed but I think you have to look at playoff PG and his stat line before you just say the Cavs suck at defense. Great players put up numbers. That's why they're great.

[jswede]

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I'm not saying the Cavs defense is fixed but I think you have to look at playoff PG and his stat line before you just say the Cavs suck at defense. Great players put up numbers. That's why they're great.

Yet outside game 3, the greatest comeback in nba history, did they really trail much? This game they kept going up by 6-10 and then Indiana would pull back into a tie/1pt lead and cavs would pull away again... They are just bored, and trying only when they need to.

[NaturalThunder]

So, how many series has a team got swept but had a chance to win three or all four games?

That was as competitive of a four-game-sweep series as you're ever going to see.

Their first round series vs Detroit was basically the same thing.

This year the Cavs won all four games by six or fewer points. One game was a one point Cleveland win and one Cavs win took a historic 26-point comeback. The Pacers scored at least 102 points all four games.

Last year the Cavs beat the Pistons by 17 in game two and by 10 in game three while holding Detroit to under 100 points in three of the four games.

[Clyde Frazier]

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I'm not saying the Cavs defense is fixed but I think you have to look at playoff PG and his stat line before you just say the Cavs suck at defense. Great players put up numbers. That's why they're great.

Yet outside game 3, the greatest comeback in nba history, did they really trail much? This game they kept going up by 6-10 and then Indiana would pull back into a tie/1pt lead and cavs would pull away again... They are just bored, and trying only when they need to.

All i'd say is with the title being the ultimate goal, i'd still be worried about their defense going forward.

[jbk1234]

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I'm not saying the Cavs defense is fixed but I think you have to look at playoff PG and his stat line before you just say the Cavs suck at defense. Great players put up numbers. That's why they're great.

Yet outside game 3, the greatest comeback in nba history, did they really trail much? This game they kept going up by 6-10 and then Indiana would pull back into a tie/1pt lead and cavs would pull away again... They are just bored, and trying only when they need to.

Point is PG scored a lot when good defense was being played against him.

[Bizness2520]

I guess the Paces suck now?

Amazing how a team goes for respectable to awful over the course of 2 games in some peoples minds.

The best teams besides Cleveland are in the other side of the bracket in the Eastern Conference Playoffs. Chicago, Boston, Atlanta, Washington. Better than Milwaukee, Indiana, or Toronto. Cleveland has a easy road to the ECF. But if they meet Washington, lookout.

I'd gladly play the winner of the Boston/Chicago series before playing anyone else in the Eastern Conference.

Yeah but you know you don't want none of Washington. Washington got that work for Cleveland.

[pacers33granger]

I'm not saying the Cavs defense is fixed but I think you have to look at playoff PG and his stat line before you just say the Cavs suck at defense. Great players put up numbers. That's why they're great.

The concern should be that Teague shot close to 50% without problem and he's worse than IT, Lowry, and Wall. Granted there's no way you guys have to play all those teams (or any of them possibly), but the PG defense should be a major point going forward.

[mademan]

I guess the Paces suck now?

Amazing how a team goes for respectable to awful over the course of 2 games in some peoples minds.

The best teams besides Cleveland are in the other side of the bracket in the Eastern Conference Playoffs. Chicago, Boston, Atlanta, Washington. Better than Milwaukee, Indiana, or Toronto. Cleveland has a easy road to the ECF. But if they meet Washington, lookout.

Washington just lost by 30 to the Hawks, Boston is getting beaten by a .500 team and the Bulls are only in the playoffs because of a tie breaker. There's nothing to suggest that any of those teams are better than Toronto/Milwaukee/Pacers

[mademan]

I'm not saying the Cavs defense is fixed but I think you have to look at playoff PG and his stat line before you just say the Cavs suck at defense. Great players put up numbers. That's why they're great.

The concern should be that Teague shot close to 50% without problem and he's worse than IT, Lowry, and Wall. Granted there's no way you guys have to play all those teams (or any of them possibly), but the PG defense should be a major point going forward.

Kyrie's PnR defense is just pathetic.

[bwgood77]

Indiana is closer than a lot of people think. They lost all four games to the heavy EC favorite by a combined 16 points.

[Bizness2520]

I guess the Paces suck now?

Amazing how a team goes for respectable to awful over the course of 2 games in some peoples minds.

The best teams besides Cleveland are in the other side of the bracket in the Eastern Conference Playoffs. Chicago, Boston, Atlanta, Washington. Better than Milwaukee, Indiana, or Toronto. Cleveland has a easy road to the ECF. But if they meet Washington, lookout.

Washington just lost by 30 to the Hawks, Boston is getting beaten by a .500 team and the Bulls are only in the playoffs because of a tie breaker. There's nothing to suggest that any of those teams are better than Toronto/Milwaukee/Pacers

Man you're on drugs. Milwaukee and Toronto are both terrible in my opinion. Neither has any chance of winning more than a game against Cleveland. I know for a fact Chicago or Washington would thrash either Milwaukee or Toronto in a 4 game series. 2 years ago with a weaker roster, but most of the same faces, Washington swept Toronto, and Toronto had home court. And Milwaukee is too young and inexperienced to beat anybody honestly. And yet somehow they are 2-2 with Toronto. Just shows you how garbage Toronto is.

[The Warrior]

Indiana is closer that a lot of people think. They lost all four games to the heavy EC favorite by a combined 16 points.

The Pistons were close in all 4 of their games against the Cavs last year, yet they failed to make the playoffs this year. The Pacers aren't close at all.

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[RaptorsLife]

The best teams besides Cleveland are in the other side of the bracket in the Eastern Conference Playoffs. Chicago, Boston, Atlanta, Washington. Better than Milwaukee, Indiana, or Toronto. Cleveland has a easy road to the ECF. But if they meet Washington, lookout.

Washington just lost by 30 to the Hawks, Boston is getting beaten by a .500 team and the Bulls are only in the playoffs because of a tie breaker. There's nothing to suggest that any of those teams are better than Toronto/Milwaukee/Pacers

Man you're on drugs. Milwaukee and Toronto are both terrible in my opinion. Neither has any chance of winning more than a game against Cleveland. I know for a fact Chicago or Washington would thrash either Milwaukee or Toronto in a 4 game series. 2 years ago with a weaker roster, but most of the same faces, Washington swept Toronto, and Toronto had home court. And Milwaukee is too young and inexperienced to beat anybody honestly. And yet somehow they are 2-2 with Toronto. Just shows you how garbage Toronto is.

You really not giving the bucks enough credits.

Monore and middlton a good players. Since Middleton returned they had a top 4 record in the east

[Bizness2520]

Indiana is closer that a lot of people think. They lost all four games to the heavy EC favorite by a combined 16 points.

Closer to what?

[Lovethisgamegr]

Good outcome for the Cavs.With these problems on defense,having Kyrie and Love in their worst series of games and still a sweep.Lebron is on a goat mode, Kyrie and Love will be better offensively (can't keep up that shooting) and maybe,just maybe the team can improve the defense (last 1 1/2 games vs Pacers it was better.Not good but better than the previous.i am being optimistic).

[mademan]

The best teams besides Cleveland are in the other side of the bracket in the Eastern Conference Playoffs. Chicago, Boston, Atlanta, Washington. Better than Milwaukee, Indiana, or Toronto. Cleveland has a easy road to the ECF. But if they meet Washington, lookout.

Washington just lost by 30 to the Hawks, Boston is getting beaten by a .500 team and the Bulls are only in the playoffs because of a tie breaker. There's nothing to suggest that any of those teams are better than Toronto/Milwaukee/Pacers

Man you're on drugs. Milwaukee and Toronto are both terrible in my opinion. Neither has any chance of winning more than a game against Cleveland. I know for a fact Chicago or Washington would thrash either Milwaukee or Toronto in a 4 game series. 2 years ago with a weaker roster, but most of the same faces, Washington swept Toronto, and Toronto had home court. And Milwaukee is too young and inexperienced to beat anybody honestly. And yet somehow they are 2-2 with Toronto. Just shows you how garbage Toronto is.

I dont think much of Toronto/Milwaukee. Washington is on the same level tho. Better? maybe. Not on a different tier, and nowhere near good enough to challenge Cleveland in a series

[bwgood77]

Indiana is closer that a lot of people think. They lost all four games to the heavy EC favorite by a combined 16 points.

Closer to what?

Being that close to winning games just comes down a lot to lucky bounces at the end. Of course some players are more clutch than others and LeBron is of course one of the best players of all time.

I just don't think Indy markedly worse than anyone outside of Cleveland, and even with them, at home and on the road, they played them right down to the wire in each game. I guess if your argument is NO team is close outside of Cleveland, your response makes more sense.

[jswede]

[Bizness2520]

Indiana is closer that a lot of people think. They lost all four games to the heavy EC favorite by a combined 16 points.

Closer to what?

Being that close to winning games just comes down a lot to lucky bounces at the end. Of course some players are more clutch than others and LeBron is of course one of the best players of all time.

I just don't think Indy markedly worse than anyone outside of Cleveland, and even with them, at home and on the road, they played them right down to the wire in each game. I guess if your argument is NO team is close outside of Cleveland, your response makes more sense.

I think Washington is as close to beating Cleveland in the Playoffs out of any team in the East. I would love to see a Cleveland vs. Washington Series in the ECF. I think Washington could maybe pull it off.

[mademan]

Closer to what?

Being that close to winning games just comes down a lot to lucky bounces at the end. Of course some players are more clutch than others and LeBron is of course one of the best players of all time.

I just don't think Indy markedly worse than anyone outside of Cleveland, and even with them, at home and on the road, they played them right down to the wire in each game. I guess if your argument is NO team is close outside of Cleveland, your response makes more sense.

I think Washington is as close to beating Cleveland in the Playoffs out of any team in the East. I would love to see a Cleveland vs. Washington Series in the ECF. I think Washington could maybe pull it off.

Man Washington's getting crazy overrated.