Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers

[Spens1]

Kawhi will end up in the Lakers

and what cost though, i think that's most lakers fans worry. Pointless getting Leonard if we don't have a core anymore, it would just be these three and scrubs which puts us behind the warriors anyway.

Lol.
Get Kawhi. No metter what it cost.
This is freaking Kawhi man.
Dont worry about the core

We still need 9-12 other players to have a roster. The more core pieces we retain, the better for us. We need to follow the Boston and Philly model of having both stars and young players rather than the Cleveland model of a few good players and overpaid scrubs around them.

[Side beard]

This is a joke right?
Westbrook was an allstar by 22, the same age as Kuzma was last season. Kuzma will be lucky to ever make an allstar game in his career.

Don't disrespect a player just because someone made a statement. Kuz is a good player and has all the potential to be an all-star.

He's a good player sure, not saying he isn't. I just don't think he will be one of the top 5 forwards in his conference though.
As I said, he is already 22 years old.

There are plenty of rookies that are 22 and have a good if not great career.

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[AussieRules]

I think the deal winds up being a S&T for Randle at something like 4/52 + Ingram + FRP. I'm sure Spurs are holding out for two FRP and they should because they're giving up a top 5 player, but that's the type of deal that makes sense.

An injured player that can walk next season if he doesn’t like the fit with his new team. Not worth Ingram being included in my opinion, Randle + Hart + multiple picks (FRP/SRPs)

[r0drig0lac]

Dont get why everyone is acting like spurs have no leverage. Kawhi doesnt have a no trade clause and SA can wait til the trade deadline

That would be incredibly dumb, like beyond stupid to wait until then. KL is a free agent next summer, so if they spurs wait until the deadline, they would get absolute garbage offers because everyone knows KL is leaving in 4 months. The best thing to do is find out what teams would KL extend with if traded and make those teams bid against each other.

so the lakers just need to wait, Kawhi is going there in 2019 (even by the MLE), right?
this was the same conversation we heard about PG13 a season ago

[yesh]

The funniest part of this whole saga is watching Nick Wright basically plead with the Lakers to trade for Kawhi so his boy Lebron gets his 3rd superteam, and he can play defence for him and stand in the corner.

[OzzyAZ]

Yet another conflicting report about Kawhi. "He wants to go to LA" and now "He doesn't want the spotlight/paparazzi in LA," with nothing being said directly from Kawhi. I've gotta bring up the elephant in the room.

The dude seems pretty high up on the spectrum, like all of his decisions are being made by his handlers. This is an enormous concern for any team willing to trade valuable pieces for him, let alone giving him a max contract. What if he needs to disappear from the public eye for another year? That's not a huge deal for your average employee, but he'll be making $30 million a year.

[r0drig0lac]

If I'm Pop and the Spurs, I trade Kawhi to a team not named Lakers, Celtics, Sixers for the best package out of the rest of the offers just to throw a wrench into offseason plans and watch everything burn down around me.

No way do I give the lakers a chance at LBJ/Kawhi/PG for anything less than Ingram, Kuzma, Ball and picks without taking deng back and i'm not even sure if I'd do that considering those 3 players will not be leading the Spurs to the WCF or Finals within the next 5 years with GSW and LAL fielding those teams.

that's exactly what's going to happen

[bb22]

I love how people are saying let him walk next year lol.
I think the spurs want some good picks next year, but taking in kawhi for a rental isn’t worth giving up a top 5 projected pick. Clips can offer their first rounder, but it probably won’t be a top 5 if kawhi joins and plays. It’s gonna take a 3-4 way trade if the spurs don’t want to deal him to the Lakers for their young talent.

[Jay 20]

I don't get the narrative of not trading him to the Lakers because the Spurs don't want to be involved with forming a superteam. This is business and they must do what's best for them.

In my opinion the Lakers can and will be willing to give them the most because they want him in place to draw LeBron. I do not think Boston or Philly give up their young talent​ for fear of not keeping Leonard after this season. Leonard screwed the Spurs and probably intentionally on that one.

Both Philly and Boston had enough success last year to roll with what they have and not gamble on giving up anything for Leonard.

[DROB27]

Yet another conflicting report about Kawhi. "He wants to go to LA" and now "He doesn't want the spotlight/paparazzi in LA," with nothing being said directly from Kawhi. I've gotta bring up the elephant in the room.

The dude seems pretty high up on the spectrum, like all of his decisions are being made by his handlers. This is an enormous concern for any team willing to trade valuable pieces for him, let alone giving him a max contract. What if he needs to disappear from the public eye for another year? That's not a huge deal for your average employee, but he'll be making $30 million a year.

Yup his uncle is clearly in control of everything.

[yesh]

Yet another conflicting report about Kawhi. "He wants to go to LA" and now "He doesn't want the spotlight/paparazzi in LA," with nothing being said directly from Kawhi. I've gotta bring up the elephant in the room.

The dude seems pretty high up on the spectrum, like all of his decisions are being made by his handlers. This is an enormous concern for any team willing to trade valuable pieces for him, let alone giving him a max contract. What if he needs to disappear from the public eye for another year? That's not a huge deal for your average employee, but he'll be making $30 million a year.

Maybe he wants to play in LA, but doesn't necessarily want to be Lebrons water carrier.

[DROB27]

Yet another conflicting report about Kawhi. "He wants to go to LA" and now "He doesn't want the spotlight/paparazzi in LA," with nothing being said directly from Kawhi. I've gotta bring up the elephant in the room.

The dude seems pretty high up on the spectrum, like all of his decisions are being made by his handlers. This is an enormous concern for any team willing to trade valuable pieces for him, let alone giving him a max contract. What if he needs to disappear from the public eye for another year? That's not a huge deal for your average employee, but he'll be making $30 million a year.

Maybe he wants to play in LA, but doesn't necessarily want to be Lebrons water carrier.

Even if lebron didn’t join he would still be in the spotlight

[hookshot199]

Spurs are not in a desirable position, however they don't have the time pressure the Lakers have in order to get a deal done before FA decision of James. A Covington + Saric + Smith + MIA '21 pick + Bayless (or something similar) from the Sixers will still be on the table during the summer.

I honestly don't get the fascination with Kuzma tbh, don't think that the Spurs value him that high. He's a defensive liability and with Kuzma's track record at Utah in combination with poor FT% there's a possibility the shooting is not for real. If that's the case I'm not sure he'll ever be a starter.

Ingram's stats are woeful thus far, but I get the fascination with him.

How do you know that has been offered? And why would we make that deal UNTIL Brown and Josh Harris down and get a commitment from him? The Sixers don't have to move until February, the trade deadline. And then if nothing happens, we have $32 mil in cap space next July.

If Kawhi commits to resigning and the medicals check out, I think that offer is reasonable with some minor tweaking. Obviously don't have information whether this offer is proposed, just making the point that the Sixers are not bound to this FA period unlike the Lakers.

I think it's too much and can't see Brett Brown giving away both Covington and Saric (his glue guys). Covington he would have to to make the numbers work. And then Smith is his pick. That said, if there's a firm - and believable - commitment from Kawhi a package like that with tweaking is reasonable.

I doubt that they've had their meeting with Kawhi and his handlers yet.

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i say no.

[chrismikayla]

Honestly I don’t feel that they should give up a ton of their young talent to trade for Kawhi. Sign PG and Lebrun outright and keep Ingram, Kuzma, etc.


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[yesh]

Yet another conflicting report about Kawhi. "He wants to go to LA" and now "He doesn't want the spotlight/paparazzi in LA," with nothing being said directly from Kawhi. I've gotta bring up the elephant in the room.

The dude seems pretty high up on the spectrum, like all of his decisions are being made by his handlers. This is an enormous concern for any team willing to trade valuable pieces for him, let alone giving him a max contract. What if he needs to disappear from the public eye for another year? That's not a huge deal for your average employee, but he'll be making $30 million a year.

Maybe he wants to play in LA, but doesn't necessarily want to be Lebrons water carrier.

Even if lebron didn’t join he would still be in the spotlight

And maybe he's good with that. He's a superstar in the NBA requesting a trade from a 20 year behemoth franchise; He could move to SAC and he'd still be in the spotlight. Kawhi's uncle is good friends with Kyrie's dad, so maybe they've spoken about what having LBJ as a team mate is like when you're also a star in your own right. I have no idea, just trying to rationalise the information we've been fed on the topic.

[phraoh]

The media is being played like a fiddle. Spurs without a doubt want to trade Leonard to the eastern conference. They are trying to drive up the price, making it a bidding war between Boston, Philly, and Lakers. Lakers would have to do the proposed Marc Stein trade (Kuzma, Ingram, Hart, and two first round picks for Kawhi). Laker fans and front office have no patience in building a team if that's what they are prepared to offer. Lebron and Kawhi and a bunch of ring chasers isn't going to go anywhere in the West. That and the fact Lebron is going to eventually just become a good player instead of a great one. If they added Paul George, I still don't think that is the direction to go for the Lakers. They should switch gears away from Leonard, and try to get Paul George or Chris Paul to the them this year, and then they will be able to add Lebron and keep their young core. If they sign Chris Paul, trade Ball for whatever you can get. This would seem to make more sense than giving all of their assets up for Leonard.

[Kolkmania]

How do you know that has been offered? And why would we make that deal UNTIL Brown and Josh Harris down and get a commitment from him? The Sixers don't have to move until February, the trade deadline. And then if nothing happens, we have $32 mil in cap space next July.

If Kawhi commits to resigning and the medicals check out, I think that offer is reasonable with some minor tweaking. Obviously don't have information whether this offer is proposed, just making the point that the Sixers are not bound to this FA period unlike the Lakers.

I think it's too much and can't see Brett Brown giving away both Covington and Saric (his glue guys). Covington he would have to to make the numbers work. And then Smith is his pick. That said, if there's a firm - and believable - commitment from Kawhi a package like that with tweaking is reasonable.

I doubt that they've had their meeting with Kawhi and his handlers yet.

I think it might be a slight overpay because of the situation, therefore one of Smith and MIA '21 would be ideal. But I wouldn't let the deal break on it if the Sixers have a commitment from Leonard to resign. Sure Covington and Saric are great guys to have, but you can't acquire someone you value without giving up assets.

[Jay 20]

Honestly I don’t feel that they should give up a ton of their young talent to trade for Kawhi. Sign PG and Lebrun outright and keep Ingram, Kuzma, etc.


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LeBron has to be willing to sign with just PG though, it's not just the Lakers decision. I don't know that just PG with those kids would be enough for LeBron to sign with them. If that team were in the East maybe, but not out West with a chance to face Golden State or Houston in the 2nd round?

He wants Leonard there.