FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 | SPAIN are new WORLD CHAMPIONS

Oscar9992 · Post #361 » by **Oscar9992** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 2:25 pm

I would be shocked if Serbia doesn't win this WC even though they have choking history.

But if USA somehow wins it it will be only thanks to Popovich.

Sofia · Post #362 » by **Sofia** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 2:37 pm

orlando_joe wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
gh123 wrote:
To think Dirk was even able to win medals with that kind of talent and beat prime Spanish team lol.

Germany's got talent. France is just really good defensively.

how does Fournier look

Don’t google.

Post #363 » by **Capn'O** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 2:41 pm

Will Slovenia not be in the Olympics because they are not in WC? That would be a bummer. This seems like a bit of a mess.

gh123 · Post #364 » by **gh123** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 2:46 pm

Capn'O wrote:Will Slovenia not be in the Olympics because they are not in WC? That would be a bummer. This seems like a bit of a mess.

I think they play separate qualifications for that lol. Onlt top4 from WC go to the Olympics. They could have changed it though, FIBA is really a big hot mess.

MrDollarBills · Post #365 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 2:52 pm

Tomazan wrote:I don't see any chances for this USA team against Serbia. I think Spain would beat them as well.Australia/Lithuania/France/Greece might have a shot too.

Didn't the US just beat Spain like two weeks ago?

MrDollarBills · Post #366 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 2:53 pm

zonedefense wrote:US lack willing passers. Barnes, Brown, Tatum, Turner. Still waiting for them to pass out of a drive.

Imagine my shock.

*lobs grenade and runs*

MrDollarBills · Post #367 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 2:56 pm

In all seriousness Jason Tatum's inefficiency and high FGAs is glaring on this boxscore.

bb22 · Post #368 » by **bb22** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 2:59 pm

Probably an unpopular opinion, but I like the way Pop has this team playing. I think the second half (4th quarter in particular) is what we will see going forward. Nice ball movement and quick decision making. The more they play together, the more efficient the offense will be. Ya they seem vulnerable because individual roles still haven't been established, but they have 4 more games until the knockout stage and will get exponentially better with each game.

I think their toughest game will come in the quarterfinals against Australia/Lithuania. That could be a close call (as it's been in years past). But I just don't see anyone beating them once the semifinals/finals come. I like Serbia, but they will still be vastly outmatched at every position other than the 5 and will once again rely on role players to make plays and hit threes in order to win.

Genjuro · Post #369 » by **Genjuro** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 3:02 pm

gh123 wrote:
stoo wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
If Batum can give them some 3rd option scoring/creating, they are going to be so dangerous. Crazy length up front.

Germany scored 4 points in 1st quarter

To think Dirk was even able to win medals with that kind of talent and beat prime Spanish team lol.

Not prime Spanish team: 2002 (that means Gasol and Navarro were 22 years old, crappy point guards and limited depth) and 2005 without Pau. Still awesome victories.

bb22 · Post #370 » by **bb22** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 3:13 pm

gh123 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:Will Slovenia not be in the Olympics because they are not in WC? That would be a bummer. This seems like a bit of a mess.

I think they play separate qualifications for that lol. Onlt top4 from WC go to the Olympics. They could have changed it though, FIBA is really a big hot mess.

Ya they have to go through separate qualifications.
FIBA is just doing everything possible to sabotage olympic basketball. They made it so that the qualifications for the olympics are based on how you finish compared to your regional competition. So the team from Asia that ranks the highest in the world cup (no matter where they finish) will automatically qualify for Tokyo, while the 3rd ranked team from Europe will have to go through that separate qualification tournament next year.

UcanUwill · Post #371 » by **UcanUwill** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 3:20 pm

Oscar9992 wrote:I would be shocked if Serbia doesn't win this WC even though they have choking history.

But if USA somehow wins it it will be only thanks to Popovich.

They still have 12 NBA guys and Popovich. They are team to beat still.

mixerball · Post #372 » by **mixerball** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 3:38 pm

pootbrah wrote:Ffs raduljica is serbias 3rd string centre. That would be far and away the best quality and depth at centre in the nba

raduljica is 4th option at center.

jokic
boban
milutinov
raduljica

mixerball · Post #373 » by **mixerball** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 3:41 pm

Oscar9992 wrote:I would be shocked if Serbia doesn't win this WC even though they have choking history.

But if USA somehow wins it it will be only thanks to Popovich.

serbia ia actually anti choking team. i dont know what are you talking about

also, why are people acting like USA doesnt have full NBA roster. US is still clear favorite.

Post #374 » by **Slartibartfast** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 3:43 pm

bb22 wrote:Probably an unpopular opinion, but I like the way Pop has this team playing. I think the second half (4th quarter in particular) is what we will see going forward. Nice ball movement and quick decision making. The more they play together, the more efficient the offense will be. Ya they seem vulnerable because individual roles still haven't been established, but they have 4 more games until the knockout stage and will get exponentially better with each game.

I think their toughest game will come in the quarterfinals against Australia/Lithuania. That could be a close call (as it's been in years past). But I just don't see anyone beating them once the semifinals/finals come. I like Serbia, but they will still be vastly outmatched at every position other than the 5 and will once again rely on role players to make plays and hit threes in order to win.

To me Pop seems to be sticking to the team USA formula. Team USA for the last 10 years has relied on pressure D and then quick hits offensively. The best way to take advantage of our unmatched depth and quickness.

The problem with this iteration of team USA is that they are vulnerable to a press themselves. Their athletes on the wing are all somewhat sketchy as ballhandlers and playmakers so if you can force the ball out of the PGs hands, they can start to break down offensively.

Defensively they are also vulnerable to teams with multiple ball-handlers. This is why AUS beat them. Mills, Delly and Ingles can all handle and pass, plus their bigs are comfortable in the high post.

This is also why I think France is an underrated threat (Serbia gets enough respect so don't need to address them). Their 3 perimeter ballhandlers who can also score. Their size to see passing lanes over the pressure and finish over the top. Then defensively, they are really strong in the halfcourt.

StojkoVrankovic · RIP texas celtic, 12/10/14 - 12/10/14

MrDollarBills wrote:
zonedefense wrote:US lack willing passers. Barnes, Brown, Tatum, Turner. Still waiting for them to pass out of a drive.

Imagine my shock.

*lobs grenade and runs*

lobs grenade and run? all you do is talk **** about the Celtics young guys, own it

gh123 · Post #376 » by **gh123** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 3:58 pm

bb22 wrote:
gh123 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:Will Slovenia not be in the Olympics because they are not in WC? That would be a bummer. This seems like a bit of a mess.

I think they play separate qualifications for that lol. Onlt top4 from WC go to the Olympics. They could have changed it though, FIBA is really a big hot mess.

Ya they have to go through separate qualifications.
FIBA is just doing everything possible to sabotage olympic basketball. They made it so that the qualifications for the olympics are based on how you finish compared to your regional competition. So the team from Asia that ranks the highest in the world cup (no matter where they finish) will automatically qualify for Tokyo, while the 3rd ranked team from Europe will have to go through that separate qualification tournament next year.

That's ridiculous....

Post #377 » by **bisme37** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 4:18 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:how are you guys watching the game?? i can't find it

The opening round games are on ESPN+ which is cool with me because I actually have it (it's only $5 and there's a lot of stuff on there). But if you don't have it, there is a one week free trial, which should cover the opening round. I believe the later round games are all on ESPN or ESPN2.

Catchall · Post #378 » by **Catchall** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 4:19 pm

Kemba and Mitchell are a load.

Watch on YouTube

MrDollarBills · Post #379 » by **MrDollarBills** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 4:43 pm

StojkoVrankovic wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
zonedefense wrote:US lack willing passers. Barnes, Brown, Tatum, Turner. Still waiting for them to pass out of a drive.

Imagine my shock.

*lobs grenade and runs*

lobs grenade and run? all you do is talk **** about the Celtics young guys, own it

If you think this is bad just wait til November 27th.

Beorn · Post #380 » by **Beorn** » Sun Sep 1, 2019 5:09 pm

LuDux1 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Gooner wrote:
Rules are not that complicated. You have a sport like handball that has the similar rules, it's played by tall people and there is more contact allowed, so there is more toom for rule interpretation. That sport i's not popular in USA at all, but here in Europe, it probably has stronger tradition than basketball, and that's weird to me. Basketball is just a much more attractive sport.

i agree with you, but I cant answer why some many part of the world dont care for basketball, I live in a 15 000 pop Lithuania town, and we probably have hundreds of outside hoops all around the town, thats not even an exaggeration, we love the wport, I am not sure why others dont. I understand Hockey and Football appeal, but Handball, Netball and all these other sports I just dont get how it is more popular than Basketball.

Oblig

Watch on YouTube

I think I've played on this court, with the Vilnius TV tower on the background. Sveikata! :beer: