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Post#361 » by Warriors Analyst » Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:23 am

nymets1 wrote:This is getting out of hand with wearing masks. This wearing masks is not proven to avoid catching a sickness. How about just social distance and try not to get closer than 6 feet from someone. I hate this social distancing thing but I rather deal with that 6 feet away thing than this wearing a mask. You won't catch anything if your outside unless your literally right on top of someone 3 feet or less. IF we are outside and it's in the wide open and you are 6 feet or more away from the closet person, the air escapes up into the sky. The problems are being inside places where fresh air is not able to come in and bad air can't escape. AC/ Heater definetly not a source of fresh air and replacing the bad air. For a inside place to get fresh air to come in and get bad air out, it has to be a combination of doors/ windows open.


In your last post where you espoused the moronic and unproven idea of “bad air,” I asked you to cite some research on this ridiculous concept and you didn’t. The things you are saying are ridiculous and not rooted in reality. I hope for the sake of the people you care about that none of them actually listen to the garbage coming out of your mouth on the subject of corona.
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Post#362 » by Beethoven » Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:30 am

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nymets1 wrote:This is getting out of hand with wearing masks. This wearing masks is not proven to avoid catching a sickness. How about just social distance and try not to get closer than 6 feet from someone. I hate this social distancing thing but I rather deal with that 6 feet away thing than this wearing a mask. You won't catch anything if your outside unless your literally right on top of someone 3 feet or less. IF we are outside and it's in the wide open and you are 6 feet or more away from the closet person, the air escapes up into the sky. The problems are being inside places where fresh air is not able to come in and bad air can't escape. AC/ Heater definetly not a source of fresh air and replacing the bad air. For a inside place to get fresh air to come in and get bad air out, it has to be a combination of doors/ windows open.


How is it getting out of hand? It's not just catching the disease, but more so to not transmit the virus from an asymptomatic person someone like yourself who thinks masks are ridiculous.

Thank you. It is people like us, being civil minded and erring on safe side , try to protect others like them , but they , on the other hand , being shortsided and only minded for themselves , go out to harm us.
I see this too much now in the public. Most of us wear masks but too many young and the defiant trying to impress upon us they don't need to follow along.
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Post#363 » by Bottomsouth » Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:43 am

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How many people owe me an apology? As more intelligence comes in, the USA and allies now believe this came from the Wuhan lab. Multiple reports this week saying intelligence believes this to be the case. #Notaconspiracy?


Overall it’s interesting and somewhat sad on how much opinions and determined stances have changed. All in a couple weeks.
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Post#364 » by lakerz12 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:58 am

2 months ago I presented the theory to some friends/colleagues that it was made in a lab in Wuhan and got dismissed and laughed at (simply because that's not what was being preached to them on MSM).

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Post#365 » by HotRocks34 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:35 am

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How many people owe me an apology? As more intelligence comes in, the USA and allies now believe this came from the Wuhan lab. Multiple reports this week saying intelligence believes this to be the case. #Notaconspiracy?


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Post#366 » by OkcSinceSGA » Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:12 am

RoLo wrote:its not that ppl didnt believe IT. its that ppl didnt believe U


That may be your own experience, but that's definitely not the dialog that was happening. The thought that it MIGHT of accidentally came from the lab was being declared a full on conspiracy. MSM was literally running a disinformation campaign for China. Now not only does it look increasingly likely, but it may go a step further and have been INTENTIONAL.

This whole COVID thing has really exposed how many people are owned by the Chinese. Seeing NBC run full on Chinese state propaganda to hit America daily has been insane.
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Post#367 » by OkcSinceSGA » Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:15 am

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Post#368 » by OkcSinceSGA » Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:25 am

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The entire world should rise up and demand severe penalties or payment if this ends up being the case.
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Post#369 » by OkcSinceSGA » Thu Apr 16, 2020 6:28 am

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CNN is even starting to backpeddle a bit. A lot of networks+Google+Facebook+Twitter admins are going to get exposed in the coming weeks


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Post#370 » by michaelm » Thu Apr 16, 2020 10:57 am

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RoLo wrote:its not that ppl didnt believe IT. its that ppl didnt believe U


That may be your own experience, but that's definitely not the dialog that was happening. The thought that it MIGHT of accidentally came from the lab was being declared a full on conspiracy. MSM was literally running a disinformation campaign for China. Now not only does it look increasingly likely, but it may go a step further and have been INTENTIONAL.

This whole COVID thing has really exposed how many people are owned by the Chinese. Seeing NBC run full on Chinese state propaganda to hit America daily has been insane.

SARS and MERS are previous zoonotic diseases caused by corona viruses of fairly proven natural origin, and this one is still very possibly similar. That it was manufactured in a lab or intentionally released from a lab pretty much remain conspiracy theories imo.
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Post#371 » by SkyhookinUrMom » Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:14 am

China is to blame, they are jealous of our freedom

Just close this thread once for all please
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Post#372 » by dhsilv2 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:21 pm

michaelm wrote:
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
RoLo wrote:its not that ppl didnt believe IT. its that ppl didnt believe U


That may be your own experience, but that's definitely not the dialog that was happening. The thought that it MIGHT of accidentally came from the lab was being declared a full on conspiracy. MSM was literally running a disinformation campaign for China. Now not only does it look increasingly likely, but it may go a step further and have been INTENTIONAL.

This whole COVID thing has really exposed how many people are owned by the Chinese. Seeing NBC run full on Chinese state propaganda to hit America daily has been insane.

SARS and MERS are previous zoonotic diseases caused by corona viruses of fairly proven natural origin, and this one is still very possibly similar. That it was manufactured in a lab or intentionally released from a lab pretty much remain conspiracy theories imo.


This!

I don't think anyone has said it is impossible this came from a lab. But without credible evidence there's no reason to go to what is a highly unlikely solution.

I also remain just dumbfounded by why people are so obsessed with the origin of this. I mean researchers sure and if we know, sure I'd read an article...but why are people so obsessed with it? I get some people are out of work and just looking for any conspiracy theory to entertain them, but really folks...you can't possibly have finished all of netflix yet.
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Post#373 » by MotownMadness » Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:30 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
michaelm wrote:
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
That may be your own experience, but that's definitely not the dialog that was happening. The thought that it MIGHT of accidentally came from the lab was being declared a full on conspiracy. MSM was literally running a disinformation campaign for China. Now not only does it look increasingly likely, but it may go a step further and have been INTENTIONAL.

This whole COVID thing has really exposed how many people are owned by the Chinese. Seeing NBC run full on Chinese state propaganda to hit America daily has been insane.

SARS and MERS are previous zoonotic diseases caused by corona viruses of fairly proven natural origin, and this one is still very possibly similar. That it was manufactured in a lab or intentionally released from a lab pretty much remain conspiracy theories imo.


This!

I don't think anyone has said it is impossible this came from a lab. But without credible evidence there's no reason to go to what is a highly unlikely solution.

I also remain just dumbfounded by why people are so obsessed with the origin of this. I mean researchers sure and if we know, sure I'd read an article...but why are people so obsessed with it? I get some people are out of work and just looking for any conspiracy theory to entertain them, but really folks...you can't possibly have finished all of netflix yet.

I dont think its some crazy conspiracy to think that somehow they accidentally leaked it or got exposed by it from that lab thats coincidentally in Wuhan close to that wet market.

They literally have videos of the scientists there extracting viruses from Horseshoe bats. To keep calling that some crazy conspiracy theory especially with how China tried so hard to cover it up is just flat dumb in my opinion.

I mean its a virus center that has definitely been collecting viruses from Horseshoe bats in the center of where the epidemic started.
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Post#374 » by TunaFish » Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:40 pm

What is the point of creating a human virus? You can't control it once it is released. Look how fast Covid-19 spread from one spot to the entire world.

Creating it would be suicide. Eventually it comes back around. And why bother? We already have a number of killer viruses in containment centers for study throughout the world. Nature is way ahead of us because in nature you have natural mutation.
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Post#375 » by Swish1906 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:43 pm

How about back to some facts instead of the whole China crap speculations. Yes its speculations.

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Post#376 » by MotownMadness » Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:46 pm

TunaFish wrote:What is the point of creating a human virus? You can't control it once it is released. Look how fast Covid-19 spread from one spot to the entire world.

Creating it would be suicide. Eventually it comes back around. And why bother? We already have a number of killer viruses in containment centers for study throughout the world. Nature is way ahead of us because in nature you have natural mutation.

China has discovered over 2,000 new viruses in the last 12 years. Thats more then any other country has found combined over our existence.

They arent creating them but extracting them even by grabbing ticks off the animals. Im assuming to try and stay ahead creating new medicines or vaccines but really goofed up somewhere here and it became transferred from human to human.
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Post#377 » by dhsilv2 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:56 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
michaelm wrote:SARS and MERS are previous zoonotic diseases caused by corona viruses of fairly proven natural origin, and this one is still very possibly similar. That it was manufactured in a lab or intentionally released from a lab pretty much remain conspiracy theories imo.


This!

I don't think anyone has said it is impossible this came from a lab. But without credible evidence there's no reason to go to what is a highly unlikely solution.

I also remain just dumbfounded by why people are so obsessed with the origin of this. I mean researchers sure and if we know, sure I'd read an article...but why are people so obsessed with it? I get some people are out of work and just looking for any conspiracy theory to entertain them, but really folks...you can't possibly have finished all of netflix yet.

I dont think its some crazy conspiracy to think that somehow they accidentally leaked it or got exposed by it from that lab thats coincidentally in Wuhan close to that wet market.

They literally have videos of the scientists there extracting viruses from Horseshoe bats. To keep calling that some crazy conspiracy theory especially with how China tried so hard to cover it up is just flat dumb in my opinion.

I mean its a virus center that has definitely been collecting viruses from Horseshoe bats in the center of where the epidemic started.


That doesn't make it reasonable to assume it "got out". You need evidence, facts to go that direction. Viruses mutate, this according to scientists studying it, looks natural. So while it may or may not be...there's no reason to start speculating let alone the almost blasphemous idea that anyone has gone through the ridged scientific efforts to have reached a THEORY on this.

Bottom line, unless you have facts to assume otherwise, baseless speculation adds nothing to the discussions about this.
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Post#378 » by TunaFish » Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:58 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
TunaFish wrote:What is the point of creating a human virus? You can't control it once it is released. Look how fast Covid-19 spread from one spot to the entire world.

Creating it would be suicide. Eventually it comes back around. And why bother? We already have a number of killer viruses in containment centers for study throughout the world. Nature is way ahead of us because in nature you have natural mutation.

China has discovered over 2,000 new viruses in the last 12 years. Thats more then any other country has found combined over our existence.

They arent creating them but extracting them even by grabbing ticks off the animals. Im assuming to try and stay ahead creating new medicines or vaccines but really goofed up somewhere here and it became transferred from human to human.


Then you overlooking the most likely and probable scenario that nature created it. The fact that it surfaced in a seafood/animal market explains much about where it came from. This is just spin that it escaped from a lab.
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Post#379 » by Slava » Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:07 pm

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How many people owe me an apology? As more intelligence comes in, the USA and allies now believe this came from the Wuhan lab. Multiple reports this week saying intelligence believes this to be the case. #Notaconspiracy?


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Post#380 » by MotownMadness » Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:07 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
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This!

I don't think anyone has said it is impossible this came from a lab. But without credible evidence there's no reason to go to what is a highly unlikely solution.

I also remain just dumbfounded by why people are so obsessed with the origin of this. I mean researchers sure and if we know, sure I'd read an article...but why are people so obsessed with it? I get some people are out of work and just looking for any conspiracy theory to entertain them, but really folks...you can't possibly have finished all of netflix yet.

I dont think its some crazy conspiracy to think that somehow they accidentally leaked it or got exposed by it from that lab thats coincidentally in Wuhan close to that wet market.

They literally have videos of the scientists there extracting viruses from Horseshoe bats. To keep calling that some crazy conspiracy theory especially with how China tried so hard to cover it up is just flat dumb in my opinion.

I mean its a virus center that has definitely been collecting viruses from Horseshoe bats in the center of where the epidemic started.


That doesn't make it reasonable to assume it "got out". You need evidence, facts to go that direction. Viruses mutate, this according to scientists studying it, looks natural. So while it may or may not be...there's no reason to start speculating let alone the almost blasphemous idea that anyone has gone through the ridged scientific efforts to have reached a THEORY on this.

Bottom line, unless you have facts to assume otherwise, baseless speculation adds nothing to the discussions about this.

What facts do you have it didnt? Like i said the fact is they have a documentary of scientist from that Wuhan lab climbing up in caves extracting viruses from Horseshoe bats.

The scientist in the video even says how he hopes its only used in research and nothing else cause of how dangerous it is.

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