Shams: Jrue Holiday Traded to Bucks for Eric Bledsoe, George Hill, Three 1st Round Picks, 2 Future Draft Pick Swaps

Post #361 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:58 am

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Post #362 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:01 am

Also, almost no team remains a contender for a straight decade. Even teams with way more star power and assets than the Bucks and Lakers do now fall apart. Having access to all their picks is sooo valuable.

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Dupp · Post #363 » by **Dupp** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:02 am

Playoff Bledsoe is reverse playoff rondo. Addition by subtraction

blueNorange · Post #364 » by **blueNorange** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:05 am

it's probably been mentioned already but when giannis leaves, the bucks will enter dark times being a bad team and no 1st rounder.

sca · Post #365 » by **sca** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:09 am

Jcity08 wrote:
sca wrote:Unpopular opinion: There's not much difference between Jrue and Bledsoe, Jrue has always been overrated and this is a bad deal for the Bucks.

Advanced stats suggest Jrue is more impactful offensively than Bledsoe. That alone to me makes Jrue more valuable.

Jrue: 17.0 PER, .537 TS%, .088 WS/48, 1.6 OBPM, 0.2 DBPM, 1.8 BPM, 2.0 VORP, 2.02 ORPM, 1.08 DRPM, 3.11 RPM, 8.26 WINS
Bledsoe: 17.6 PER, .571 TS%, .157 WS/48, 0.8 OBPM, 1.1 DBPM, 1.8 BPM, 1.6 VORP, 3.06 ORPM, -0.95 DRPM, 2.11 RPM, 5.37 WINS

Per 100 possessions:
Jrue: 25.5 pts / 6.4 reb / 8.9 ast / 2.2 stl / 1.0 blk
Bledsoe: 25.3 pts / 7.8 reb / 9.1 ast / 1.6 stl / 0.7 blk

IDK, I've always felt like Jrue is one of those players whose reputation is way ahead of how they actually play on the court. Maybe that's just me, though, and he's actually the guy that Giannis needs. Highly doubt that, though. Marginal improvement at best. Average shooter. Needs the ball in his hands. Very good defender, but so is Bledsoe.

Drou · Post #366 » by **Drou** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:41 am

Repeat 3-peat wrote:The Bucks better hope Giannis stays...

True. He did say "If they make the right moves I'm saying" but since there's 0 accountability in this day and age, go figure!

WalterBenjamin · Post #367 » by **WalterBenjamin** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:50 am

What are the protections?

WestGOAT · Post #368 » by **WestGOAT** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:04 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:People expecting Jrue to be the Jrue from one Portland series one time are going to be disappointed.

I was just about to bring this up, Jrue looked like a two-way superstar in that series, but what else does he have to show for his tenure at NO?

What I mostly recall is that he was often injured. Not a good sign giving up so many picks for an injury-prone player.

Sill the trade is a win if this helps the Bucks convince Giannis to resign with them on a 5-year deal.

JustOneFix · Post #369 » by **JustOneFix** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:10 am

Really don't get the thrill for the Bucks. Holiday and Bogdanovic are really not that good....

ADMVP · Post #370 » by **ADMVP** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:13 am

WestGOAT wrote:
NO-KG-AI wrote:People expecting Jrue to be the Jrue from one Portland series one time are going to be disappointed.

I was just about to bring this up, Jrue looked like a two-way superstar in that series, but what else does he have to show for his tenure at NO?

What I mostly recall is that he was often injured. Not a good sign giving up so many picks for an injury-prone player.

Sill the trade is win of this helps in convince Gianni's to resign with the Bucks on a 5-year deal.

He wasn't often injured. He was often inconsistent though.
He is still a great defender though and will guard 1-4.

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NY 567 · Post #371 » by **NY 567** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:15 am

That's a whole hell of a lot to give up for Jrue Holiday......

Zespetjest · Post #372 » by **Zespetjest** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:20 am

Holy ****, with so many 1st round picks Bucks should get all 3 Holiday brothers! Add ti that Bledsoe and that other guy... I think Pels win here big time.

Lost Angel · Post #373 » by **Lost Angel** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:27 am

wow the Bucks got desperate, that’s too much draft capital for someone like Jrue.

Post #374 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:35 am

ADMVP wrote:
WestGOAT wrote:
NO-KG-AI wrote:People expecting Jrue to be the Jrue from one Portland series one time are going to be disappointed.

I was just about to bring this up, Jrue looked like a two-way superstar in that series, but what else does he have to show for his tenure at NO?

What I mostly recall is that he was often injured. Not a good sign giving up so many picks for an injury-prone player.

Sill the trade is win of this helps in convince Gianni's to resign with the Bucks on a 5-year deal.
He wasn't often injured. He was often inconsistent though.
He is still a great defender though and will guard 1-4.

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34, 40, 65, 67, 81, 67, 61 since he joined the Pels.

Not exactly a pillar of health. If someone like AD is considered injury prone, he definitely is.

Jez2983 · Post #375 » by **Jez2983** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:36 am

As a Bucks fan we got hosed in this deal. But there is no doubting the intent, and I guess it shows the extent they'll go to to try and win now.

Johnny Tomala · Post #376 » by **Johnny Tomala** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:52 am

Ridiculous overpayment for Holiday. He is not a star and he is not worth all those picks.

oldshoolballer · Post #377 » by **oldshoolballer** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:54 am

The Bucks got a little better but not much Huge overpay with giving up all those draft picks

jsierra1985 · Post #378 » by **jsierra1985** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:37 am

Can someone explain to me how is this a bad deal if giannis stays?

lol the bucks are all in as they should be. Good move for them

jsierra1985 · Post #379 » by **jsierra1985** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:39 am

worrying so much about draft picks will end up making your superstar leave town.

Then what?

I am sure giannis was in on this deal and knew about it. Just like how the suns were with booker when it came to cp3. These superstars want to win now and want proven players around them to help right off the bat.....

UNCBlue012 · Post #380 » by **UNCBlue012** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:41 am

I love Jrue but lol at the Bucks. Robbery.

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