NBA Draft Lottery - Tues 05/17 8 p.m. et

timO · Post #361 » by **timO** » Wed May 18, 2022 4:34 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Hilarious how Poku is the muscular one here.

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sheiiit

Holmgren is only 5 months younger than POku

we can have two clons, and no one converts in Porzingis, who is best case for both

CraftylikeaFox · Post #362 » by **CraftylikeaFox** » Wed May 18, 2022 4:50 pm

Bologna Smasher wrote:
CraftylikeaFox wrote:
Bologna Smasher wrote:McNair is going to have a tough decision. I think the top three are pretty much locks. Jaden Ivey is the top talent available at four, but you're in another situation (obviously not the exact same) as the 2018 draft with Luka. How does he fit with Fox? Watching how Fox struggled with Haliburton this past season makes it even tougher. Even after considering that, I think I still take Ivey.

Ivey and Keegan Murray are the safest picks, but Sharpe has the highest upside. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Banchero fall, which would complicate things even more.

This team is in the situation it is because of Fox. We passed on Luka because of him. Then we traded Haliburton because Fox had low value and we couldn’t move him. We can’t afford to make any mistakes anymore because of Fox. Take Ivey who is clearly the 4th best player in this draft and don’t think about. If Fox still can’t produce next year then bench his ass.

This is pretty much my approach as well. If Ivey flourishes and Fox declines again, it's time to move on from him. With the Kings moving Haliburton, I'm not so sure the organization will take the same approach.

I think we didn't move Fox last year because the only offers on the table for him were bad, which, rightfully so. But if Ivey is the choice, which he 100% should be, and he looks promising, and we are still bad with Fox running the show, we need to trade Fox for ANYTHING. That includes Julius Randle, Luke Kennard/Marcus Morris, or even some trade with the Lakers. We need to get rid of the one common denominator remaining, no matter how hard Vivek tries to push back.

Post #363 » by **Duke4life831** » Wed May 18, 2022 5:02 pm

zshawn10 wrote:

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He has a better standing reach than Gobert by 2 inches...

He is also the much better athlete than Gobert ever was. Mark actually has really good mobility for someone his size. Wouldnt be shocked if he goes top 10.

PhilBlackson · Post #364 » by **PhilBlackson** » Wed May 18, 2022 5:10 pm

My Early Mock..

1. ORL - Jabari Smith
2. OKC - Chet Holgrem
3. HOU - Paolo Banchero
4. SAC - Shaedon Sharpe *could be traded
5. DET - Jaden Ivey
6. IND - Keegan Murray
7. POR - AJ Griffin *could be traded
8. NOP - Johnny Davis
9. SAS - Tari Eason
10. WAS - Jalen Duren
11. NYK - Ben Mathurin
12. OKC - Ousmane Dieng
13. CHA - Mark Williams
14. CLE - Jeremy Sochan

Post #365 » by **Michael Jackson** » Wed May 18, 2022 5:17 pm

Bruin wrote:
DrCoach wrote:
Bruin wrote:Imagine the Kings FO didn’t trade Haliburton. A potential Ivey - Haliburton backcourt would’ve been awesome

Indy can

I’d be highly surprised if Ivey is still available at 6

Me too. Can't see him getting past 5. That being said I never saw Hali falling as far as he did so you never know.

Backcountry · Post #366 » by **Backcountry** » Wed May 18, 2022 5:46 pm

Profound23 wrote:Taking Chet will be viewed at similar to taking:
Bogut over CP3
Bowie over MJ
Oden over KD

Just give me Jabari Smith and call it a night if I am Orlando

Definitely saving this post. Could end up being a classic.

Alonzo_Morning · Post #367 » by **Alonzo_Morning** » Wed May 18, 2022 6:24 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:My Early Mock..

1. ORL - Jabari Smith
2. OKC - Chet Holgrem
3. HOU - Paolo Banchero
4. SAC - Shaedon Sharpe *could be traded
5. DET - Jaden Ivey
6. IND - Keegan Murray
7. POR - AJ Griffin *could be traded
8. NOP - Johnny Davis
9. SAS - Tari Eason
10. WAS - Jalen Duren
11. NYK - Ben Mathurin
12. OKC - Ousmane Dieng
13. CHA - Mark Williams
14. CLE - Jeremy Sochan

You were going well until Eason at 9

PhilBlackson · Post #368 » by **PhilBlackson** » Wed May 18, 2022 6:33 pm

Alonzo_Morning wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:My Early Mock..

1. ORL - Jabari Smith
2. OKC - Chet Holgrem
3. HOU - Paolo Banchero
4. SAC - Shaedon Sharpe *could be traded
5. DET - Jaden Ivey
6. IND - Keegan Murray
7. POR - AJ Griffin *could be traded
8. NOP - Johnny Davis
9. SAS - Tari Eason
10. WAS - Jalen Duren
11. NYK - Ben Mathurin
12. OKC - Ousmane Dieng
13. CHA - Mark Williams
14. CLE - Jeremy Sochan

You were going well until Eason at 9

I know those always bound to be disagreements with mock drafts lol but I just think SAS has a plethora of guards/wings. While I DON'T think Eason is "the next Kawhi", I could see the Spurs liking him for similar reasons to be a bigger wing defender that they currently sorely lack with some 3pt shooting touch. Of course feel free to say who you think they'd take and why?!?

shakes0 · Post #369 » by **shakes0** » Wed May 18, 2022 6:40 pm

DusterBuster wrote:
Profound23 wrote:Taking Chet will be viewed at similar to taking:
Bogut over CP3
Bowie over MJ
Oden over KD

Just give me Jabari Smith and call it a night if I am Orlando

Yeah, I've always been out on Chet. I have yet to see any good NBA prospect coming out of Gonzaga. That program lost me after the Adam Morrison hype. I think Jabari is going to be the best player from this draft.

I could be wrong, but I think they had a pretty good guard come out of there once upon a time....

DusterBuster · Post #370 » by **DusterBuster** » Wed May 18, 2022 8:00 pm

shakes0 wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
Profound23 wrote:Taking Chet will be viewed at similar to taking:
Bogut over CP3
Bowie over MJ
Oden over KD

Just give me Jabari Smith and call it a night if I am Orlando

Yeah, I've always been out on Chet. I have yet to see any good NBA prospect coming out of Gonzaga. That program lost me after the Adam Morrison hype. I think Jabari is going to be the best player from this draft.

I could be wrong, but I think they had a pretty good guard come out of there once upon a time....

Ok, split hairs, fine. Point still stands, outside of Stockton and Sabonis, Gonzaga is not an NBA prospect powerhouse.

https://basketball.realgm.com/ncaa/conferences/West-Coast-Conference/11/Gonzaga/332/nba-players

zshawn10 · Post #371 » by **zshawn10** » Wed May 18, 2022 8:59 pm

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Profound23 · Post #372 » by **Profound23** » Wed May 18, 2022 10:15 pm

Backcountry wrote:
Profound23 wrote:Taking Chet will be viewed at similar to taking:
Bogut over CP3
Bowie over MJ
Oden over KD

Just give me Jabari Smith and call it a night if I am Orlando

Definitely saving this post. Could end up being a classic.

Could be epic either way.

Who do you like in this draft? You're taking Chet #1 overall?

Blazing_royale · Post #373 » by **Blazing_royale** » Wed May 18, 2022 10:57 pm

This draft doesn't seem all that exciting and the top talents in this years draft seems subpar

DTP · Post #374 » by **DTP** » Wed May 18, 2022 11:23 pm

DroseReturnChi wrote:
DTP wrote:I'm too pissed right now to go look up facts but it just seems to me like Orlando & Sacramento have had a lot of top pick opportunities and have failed at them almost every time.....tired of seeing bad organizations continue to get rewarded. If I'm wrong leave me alone- I just watched another awful season of basketball and only thing we get in return is 5th damn pick.

pissed on what? orlando and okc deserved the most after missing out last yr and they have drafting well. not to mention magics last number 1 was dwight and oneal they never blew top picks. no need to get greedy after you got a number 1 pick. theres also a chance number 5 pick is best guy someone like ivey i would focus on drafting well.

I have a bigger issue with Sacramento....them jumping us just sucks. I'm also not a fan of how shameful OKC's tank has been the last two years. I take pride that Detroit & Houston have "tanked the right way" these past two years...cant say the same about OKC.

Pointgod · Post #375 » by **Pointgod** » Thu May 19, 2022 12:14 am

DTP wrote:
DroseReturnChi wrote:
DTP wrote:I'm too pissed right now to go look up facts but it just seems to me like Orlando & Sacramento have had a lot of top pick opportunities and have failed at them almost every time.....tired of seeing bad organizations continue to get rewarded. If I'm wrong leave me alone- I just watched another awful season of basketball and only thing we get in return is 5th damn pick.

pissed on what? orlando and okc deserved the most after missing out last yr and they have drafting well. not to mention magics last number 1 was dwight and oneal they never blew top picks. no need to get greedy after you got a number 1 pick. theres also a chance number 5 pick is best guy someone like ivey i would focus on drafting well.

I have a bigger issue with Sacramento....them jumping us just sucks. I'm also not a fan of how shameful OKC's tank has been the last two years. I take pride that Detroit & Houston have "tanked the right way" these past two years...cant say the same about OKC.

Facts OKC should not have been rewarded for their shameless tanking. The only solace is the fact that the track record of the second pick is not a guaranteed slam dunk.

RIPskaterdude · Post #376 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Thu May 19, 2022 12:31 am

DusterBuster wrote:
rickxdel wrote:
Cubbies2120 wrote:I'd like to congratulate Blazers fans in advance! Excited to see who they take with the #1 overall pick to build with Anfernee Simons for the future, as well as the assets they pick up from the Lillard trade!

Something tells me the NBA is rewarding them with the #1 pick as well lol, Dame is a hell of a representative

Yeah, NBA doesn't look kindly on unabashedly tanking.... so swing and a miss there.

At least the Kings get their 37th shot to blow a Top 4 pick.

Kings hardly ever move up, but ok

DTP · Post #377 » by **DTP** » Thu May 19, 2022 12:39 am

RIPskaterdude wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
rickxdel wrote:
Something tells me the NBA is rewarding them with the #1 pick as well lol, Dame is a hell of a representative

Yeah, NBA doesn't look kindly on unabashedly tanking.... so swing and a miss there.

At least the Kings get their 37th shot to blow a Top 4 pick.
Kings hardly ever move up, but ok

They should move down every year until they make the playoffs....they literally pick in the lottery every damn year. If they can't find talent that's on them.

RIPskaterdude · Post #378 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Thu May 19, 2022 12:43 am

CraftylikeaFox wrote:
Bologna Smasher wrote:
CraftylikeaFox wrote:
This team is in the situation it is because of Fox. We passed on Luka because of him. Then we traded Haliburton because Fox had low value and we couldn’t move him. We can’t afford to make any mistakes anymore because of Fox. Take Ivey who is clearly the 4th best player in this draft and don’t think about. If Fox still can’t produce next year then bench his ass.

This is pretty much my approach as well. If Ivey flourishes and Fox declines again, it's time to move on from him. With the Kings moving Haliburton, I'm not so sure the organization will take the same approach.

I think we didn't move Fox last year because the only offers on the table for him were bad, which, rightfully so. But if Ivey is the choice, which he 100% should be, and he looks promising, and we are still bad with Fox running the show, we need to trade Fox for ANYTHING. That includes Julius Randle, Luke Kennard/Marcus Morris, or even some trade with the Lakers. We need to get rid of the one common denominator remaining, no matter how hard Vivek tries to push back.

You think Mitchell and Ivey works?

RIPskaterdude · Post #379 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Thu May 19, 2022 12:45 am

DTP wrote:
RIPskaterdude wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
Yeah, NBA doesn't look kindly on unabashedly tanking.... so swing and a miss there.

At least the Kings get their 37th shot to blow a Top 4 pick.
Kings hardly ever move up, but ok

They should move down every year until they make the playoffs....they literally pick in the lottery every damn year. If they can't find talent that's on them.

The Kings have only moved up 4 times in 26 attempts but ok

DusterBuster · Post #380 » by **DusterBuster** » Thu May 19, 2022 1:13 am

RIPskaterdude wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
rickxdel wrote:
Something tells me the NBA is rewarding them with the #1 pick as well lol, Dame is a hell of a representative

Yeah, NBA doesn't look kindly on unabashedly tanking.... so swing and a miss there.

At least the Kings get their 37th shot to blow a Top 4 pick.
Kings hardly ever move up, but ok

Wasn’t talking about them moving up, just their likely continued ineptitude in drafting in the lottery.