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Shock Defeat wrote:Wait a minute. Chet went 3/11 and got exposed against a undrafted random player. Where are the posters who crowned him a hall of famer after game 1?
lessthanjake wrote:Kyrie was extremely impactful without LeBron, and basically had zero impact whatsoever if LeBron was on the court.
lessthanjake wrote: By playing in a way that prevents Kyrie from getting much impact, LeBron ensures that controlling for Kyrie has limited effect…
Mephariel wrote:The only thing that these two games "exposed" is that Chet is exactly the prospect most people thought he would be.
Skilled, talented, and unique for his size, but also extremely weak and fragile for his size.
But two games people. TWO games...
Canadian6ersFan wrote:Another summer league hot take down the drain.
Chunky boy whooped Skinny Cheetah's ass last night.
Raps in 4 wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Raps in 4 wrote:
I mean, the player has to have some kind of scoring ability too.
There's like 4 bigs he needs to worry about until he needs to put on weight - Jonas, Embiid, Jokic, Giannis, missing anyone that is really physical and skilled? Maybe Sabonis?
Any forward over 200 pounds, not just traditional bigs. Teams will attack him.
vxmike wrote:Raps in 4 wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
There's like 4 bigs he needs to worry about until he needs to put on weight - Jonas, Embiid, Jokic, Giannis, missing anyone that is really physical and skilled? Maybe Sabonis?
Any forward over 200 pounds, not just traditional bigs. Teams will attack him.
Even a center like Vucevic will eat him alive. As a Bulls fan I saw Doug McDermott get relentlessly attacked by opposing players play after play until he had to be pulled. They’re different players but both with severe physical limitations against NBA athletes.
The NBA is a different level. Coaches will attack weakness and not stop.
bbms wrote:vxmike wrote:Raps in 4 wrote:
Any forward over 200 pounds, not just traditional bigs. Teams will attack him.
Even a center like Vucevic will eat him alive. As a Bulls fan I saw Doug McDermott get relentlessly attacked by opposing players play after play until he had to be pulled. They’re different players but both with severe physical limitations against NBA athletes.
The NBA is a different level. Coaches will attack weakness and not stop.
yeah college coaches are really bums
who would've thought in this brilliant strategy? uncounterable!!!
vxmike wrote:bbms wrote:vxmike wrote:
Even a center like Vucevic will eat him alive. As a Bulls fan I saw Doug McDermott get relentlessly attacked by opposing players play after play until he had to be pulled. They’re different players but both with severe physical limitations against NBA athletes.
The NBA is a different level. Coaches will attack weakness and not stop.
yeah college coaches are really bums
who would've thought in this brilliant strategy? uncounterable!!!
College is a different game with different levels of athleticism and skill. Again a guy like McDermott was unstoppable in college and helpless in the NBA at least on the Bulls.
Physicality matters in the NBA. It’s a legit concert for Chet. Maybe he gets stronger or gets around it somehow, but anyone who denies the issue or won’t admit he has major bust potential isn’t being realistic.
Blazing_royale wrote:Not surprised, they also picked Jalen Suggs in the last draft.
Michael Jackson wrote:Blazing_royale wrote:Not surprised, they also picked Jalen Suggs in the last draft.
Suggs was a no brainer at that spot. At the time Toronto was the one being clowned for not taking him. Also the jury is far from out on Suggs
bbms wrote:Michael Jackson wrote:Blazing_royale wrote:Not surprised, they also picked Jalen Suggs in the last draft.
Suggs was a no brainer at that spot. At the time Toronto was the one being clowned for not taking him. Also the jury is far from out on Suggs
clowned by who? casual fans?
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:RookieStar wrote:So... any bets here on what threada being created tom when Paolo and Jabari meets?
Us Magic fans have a feeling Jabari was circling this game in his calendar after all the #1 talks of him being derailed by us.
Has there been any good reporting on how the Magic completely duped the king of scoops into thinking it was Jabari until like 5 minutes before the draft?
Then there was the mystery of the sportsbooks. Many of the top casinos went from lowering Banchero's odds in the few days leading up to the draft to outright making him the favorite -- overnight.
While the Magic investigated -- the team came to the conclusion social media might've played a role -- the Rockets began to react.
"When [the odds] shifted, we noted it," Stone said. "If people are willing to put their money on it, especially when you see a big swing like that, it feels like maybe somebody knows something."
The Rockets reached out to Prather, a veteran agent who has a long history with the organization. Houston hadn't met with Smith before the draft, though they'd done extensive scouting and research on him. With the growing uncertainty of what the Magic might do, Prather gave the Rockets Smith's pre-draft medical reports.
This personal data, which includes previous injury history, is often closely held by players and agents. Secrecy sometimes is used as a tactic to guide players away from certain teams. It's also often not shared if an agent is confident the client will be off the board before that team picks, as was thought to be the case in this instance. The Rockets didn't have full medicals on Holmgren, either; he had only provided them to the Magic and the Oklahoma City Thunder, who had the No. 2 pick.
With the draft fast approaching, veteran agent Bill Duffy, who represents Holmgren, told the Rockets that if he got an indication the Magic and Thunder were passing on his client, he would give Holmgren's medical reports to Houston so it could prepare.
. . . .
THE ROCKETS AND Thunder deepened their information gathering.
Hours passed. Once the Rockets were convinced Orlando was going with Banchero, Houston reached out to the Magic to make a trade offer to get up to the top pick, sources said.
The Rockets wouldn't have made an offer if they were certain Smith would slide to them, sources said, but they were concerned about having to make a decision on Holmgren without time to digest his medical information.
Teams drafting near each other routinely carry out due diligence, feeling out pick availability and values. Perhaps the Magic, the thinking went, were running a smoke screen -- an effort to force last-minute trade offers only to move back and take the player they had allegedly been leaning toward all along is a game as old as the draft itself.
In 2017, the Boston Celtics famously traded the No. 1 pick for the No. 3 pick as the Philadelphia 76ers moved up to draft Markelle Fultz. The Celtics had Jayson Tatum No. 1 on their draft board all along, so they got their player and an extra future pick.
But that Celtics-Sixers trade happened three days before the draft. Had the Magic truly wanted to trade this No. 1 pick and move back, they'd have made the decision a few days earlier, sources said.
So the Magic listened to the Rockets' offer but firmly passed. The negotiation was brief, and the Rockets got the message: A deal was highly unlikely.
queridiculo wrote:
The round mound of rebound.
queridiculo wrote:
The round mound of rebound.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:queridiculo wrote:niQ wrote:
What's the best player comp for Lofton?
The round mound of rebound.
the modern day Zach Randolph