2023 trade deadline (February 9)

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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#361 » by FeatheryTouch » Sat Feb 4, 2023 7:44 pm

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idk to what extent his team hopping is actually related to his "issues' and some are just down to the crappy situations he was in



7 crappy situations in a row?

Dallas is Wood's 7th NBA team, and none of his previous teams seemed to want to resign him either despite some pretty good numbers, affordable contracts, and his youth at the time.

Every team he has been on looked at him for a year and has said no thanks.

You don't hear many reports of any teams targeting him either.

In other words - red flags galore.

If Wood can't stick anywhere despite his production, there have to be(unreported?) locker room/off-the-court issues.

...


by this logic Dallas traded real assets for him after 6 teams in 6 seasons in which he was "problematic"
if 7 is red flag "galore" then so is 6

not like they didn't know that when they trade for him

Dallas FO must be accountable either way

if u trade the some of the very few assets u have to sign an expiring uber problematic player and then let him walk because he's a "problem" - u still suck at ur job and need to get fired :P

personally I trust what i'm seeing on the court and off
listened to multiple post-game pressers this season where Wood was interiewed

he sounded like a nice, intelligent guy who understands basketball and understands it's a team game
I watched his decisions on the court as well, he played well and totally within the team this season

so what are these so called problems? does he have a really bad breath or something? does he hit on everyone's wives?

either way the Mavs should have done their homework b4 the trade and if they didn't that's on the FO

and again - if he's so cancerous, why are they willing to give him a 2 year extention?



I agree the Mavs front office should be held accountable. The roster they have assembled around Luka is clearly lacking, they botched the Brunson situation, and they have limited assets to upgrade - which is why they had interest/curiosity in Wood in the first place, the trade value for him has always been low despite his production.

Look, I have no specific knowledge of Wood being a bad dude or having off-court issues. He might be a perfectly good person and teammate. I don't mean to besmirch the man's reputation! All I know is that team after team after team has had him in house on an affordable deal, got to see him up close, and then decided let him go even though he was productive and cheap.

NBA teams aren't generally in the business of acquiring young, productive, affordable assets and then saying "no thanks" after one year.

Dallas now finds itself in the same situation as his 6 previous teams and seems unsure what to do with him. Why?

Big men with his stats are typically able to sign lucrative long term contracts.

Something clearly doesn't add up with Wood.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#362 » by iggymcfrack » Sat Feb 4, 2023 7:48 pm

carlquincy wrote:Any way for Nuggets/Mavs to get Kyrie? E.g. Murray for Kyrie?


Make it Kyrie + 3 unprotected first rounders and I’m still saying no if I’m Denver. That would be such a huge gut punch as a Nuggets fan.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#363 » by Rainwater » Sat Feb 4, 2023 10:11 pm

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He's referring to the Milwaukee series that he disappeared in and was disinterested the entire time. This was also the series that caused Rozier to go on first take and air dirty laundry to expedite his exit.
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I dont think i remember this? LOL what did Rozier say on First Take?




This is not dirty laundry. This is just Rozier talking about how difficult it was to play with other star players like Hayward and Irving. He literally said this is how it affected him. If a guy who plays the same position is taking half your mins and not allowing you play the way you typically play, I would be upset as well.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#364 » by Rainwater » Sat Feb 4, 2023 10:16 pm

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Just out of interest, who do you think the Magic would be shopping in this scenario?


Harris, Bamba, Ross, possibly Fultz or Anthony


I’d be REALLY surprised if we dealt Fultz in a “selling”’ move. If he was used as part of a wider deal to make us better, then sure. But he’s a genuinely important part of our team and fits well with both our timeline and Franz/Paolo.

I get why Harris would be seen as a nice piece for a contender, but I hope we keep him. A good shooter and veteran presence is exactly what we need.

Anthony? I’d listen to (a lot) of offers on. Ross and Bamba? You can have them for a fax machine.


Lol, that is debatable and a huge conversation on the magic board, the guy is a role player who can't shoot. The only untradeable pieces on the magic are Franz and Paolo. Everyone else is expendable for the right price.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#365 » by AdamTH21 » Sun Feb 5, 2023 11:35 am

Rainwater wrote:
AdamTH21 wrote:
jonbob17 wrote:
Harris, Bamba, Ross, possibly Fultz or Anthony


I’d be REALLY surprised if we dealt Fultz in a “selling”’ move. If he was used as part of a wider deal to make us better, then sure. But he’s a genuinely important part of our team and fits well with both our timeline and Franz/Paolo.

I get why Harris would be seen as a nice piece for a contender, but I hope we keep him. A good shooter and veteran presence is exactly what we need.

Anthony? I’d listen to (a lot) of offers on. Ross and Bamba? You can have them for a fax machine.


Lol, that is debatable and a huge conversation on the magic board, the guy is a role player who can't shoot. The only untradeable pieces on the magic are Franz and Paolo. Everyone is else expendable for the right price.


So, exactly what I said when I mentioned in another post that I'd be happy to include him in a deal which would make us better?
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#366 » by BigGargamel » Sun Feb 5, 2023 2:28 pm

carlquincy wrote:Any way for Nuggets/Mavs to get Kyrie? E.g. Murray for Kyrie?


LOL God no
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#367 » by Pattycakes » Sun Feb 5, 2023 3:13 pm

I hear magic are giving away T Ross and Bamba for a fax machine.. the blazers just so happen have a fax machine and an obvious need for bench upgrades in any form or fashion.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#368 » by KokoKaizer » Sun Feb 5, 2023 3:23 pm

Pattycakes wrote:I hear magic are giving away T Ross and Bamba for a fax machine.. the blazers just so happen have a fax machine and an obvious need for bench upgrades in any form or fashion.


You have to include Cash Consideration too, he's in great demand in Orlando
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#369 » by JRoy » Sun Feb 5, 2023 3:38 pm

KokoKaizer wrote:
Pattycakes wrote:I hear magic are giving away T Ross and Bamba for a fax machine.. the blazers just so happen have a fax machine and an obvious need for bench upgrades in any form or fashion.


You have to include Cash Consideration too, he's in great demand in Orlando


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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#370 » by Rainwater » Sun Feb 5, 2023 6:56 pm

AdamTH21 wrote:
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I’d be REALLY surprised if we dealt Fultz in a “selling”’ move. If he was used as part of a wider deal to make us better, then sure. But he’s a genuinely important part of our team and fits well with both our timeline and Franz/Paolo.

I get why Harris would be seen as a nice piece for a contender, but I hope we keep him. A good shooter and veteran presence is exactly what we need.

Anthony? I’d listen to (a lot) of offers on. Ross and Bamba? You can have them for a fax machine.


Lol, that is debatable and a huge conversation on the magic board, the guy is a role player who can't shoot. The only untradeable pieces on the magic are Franz and Paolo. Everyone is else expendable for the right price.


So, exactly what I said when I mentioned in another post that I'd be happy to include him in a deal which would make us better?


Fine, if that is the case. However, when you say he is an important piece and fits well next to Paolo and Franz it seems to allude that he is not tradable or is the the future starting PG. There have been reports that the magic have been trying to improve the PG spot for awhile now with guys like Poole, before his resigning, and FVV. I really don't think the Magic value Fultz as much as you think.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#371 » by One Last Shot » Sun Feb 5, 2023 7:48 pm

Pointgod wrote:It’s gonna suck. The No Balls Association


Kyrie: hold my beer..
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#372 » by Exp0sed » Sun Feb 5, 2023 7:55 pm

Rainwater wrote:
AdamTH21 wrote:
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Lol, that is debatable and a huge conversation on the magic board, the guy is a role player who can't shoot. The only untradeable pieces on the magic are Franz and Paolo. Everyone is else expendable for the right price.


So, exactly what I said when I mentioned in another post that I'd be happy to include him in a deal which would make us better?


Fine, if that is the case. However, when you say he is an important piece and fits well next to Paolo and Franz it seems to allude that he is not tradable or is the the future starting PG. There have been reports that the magic have been trying to improve the PG spot for awhile now with guys like Poole, before his resigning, and FVV. I really don't think the Magic value Fultz as much as you think.


with Fultz it's just a practical issue: the Magic see every day what a good player and great teammate he is
however, his trade value is quite low
what are they realistically gonna get for Fultz, a 2nd rnd pick?

for that price - they "value" him more and wouldn't sell

if they get a real offer they sure would, regardless of them liking him

but until such time whereas his trade value catches up with what he brings to the team (and can improve from there as well and as the team improves) - he's staying in a Magic uniform
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#373 » by Rainwater » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:03 pm

Exp0sed wrote:
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AdamTH21 wrote:
So, exactly what I said when I mentioned in another post that I'd be happy to include him in a deal which would make us better?


Fine, if that is the case. However, when you say he is an important piece and fits well next to Paolo and Franz it seems to allude that he is not tradable or is the the future starting PG. There have been reports that the magic have been trying to improve the PG spot for awhile now with guys like Poole, before his resigning, and FVV. I really don't think the Magic value Fultz as much as you think.


with Fultz it's just a practical issue: the Magic see every day what a good player and great teammate he is
however, his trade value is quite low
what are they realistically gonna get for Fultz, a 2nd rnd pick?

for that price - they "value" him more and wouldn't sell

if they get a real offer they sure would, regardless of them liking him

but until such time whereas his trade value catches up with what he brings to the team (and can improve from there as well and as the team improves) - he's staying in a Magic uniform


Great than say that rather than he is an important piece on the magic and fits well next to Franz and Paolo because he really doesn't. Yes, Fultz is their best option and serviceable due to a lack of options. But first chance the magic get to trade Fultz I think they will.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#374 » by Pointgod » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:23 pm

One Last Shot wrote:
Pointgod wrote:It’s gonna suck. The No Balls Association


Kyrie: hold my beer..


Kyrie to my take on the trade deadline:

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Re: 2023 trade deadline (February 9) 

Post#375 » by chilluminati » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:24 pm

Kyrie just got traded to the Mavs :O
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Re: 2023 trade deadline (February 9) 

Post#376 » by Statlanta » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:25 pm

Dorian Finney Smith, Royce O'Neal and Nic Claxton is a nice front line.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline (February 9) 

Post#377 » by Exp0sed » Sun Feb 5, 2023 8:32 pm

chilluminati wrote:Kyrie just got traded to the Mavs :O


OMG, Cuban is a serious clown
and their FO are worse

goddamn
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Re: 2023 trade deadline (February 9) 

Post#378 » by ReddoverKobe » Sun Feb 5, 2023 9:49 pm

The Nets win the trade simply because Kyrie is gone. However DFS and Dinwiddie are really overrated on this board it seems. Good players but its not like they are swinging a title here or anything.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline (February 9) 

Post#379 » by Exp0sed » Sun Feb 5, 2023 9:58 pm

ReddoverKobe wrote:The Nets win the trade simply because Kyrie is gone. However DFS and Dinwiddie are really overrated on this board it seems. Good players but its not like they are swinging a title here or anything.


well duh, but getting both of them for Kyrie whose walking anyway and threatening to sitout the season if he's not traded in a week...that's a nice get

and ofc, the FRP + 2nds

awesome haul all things considered

they weren't swinging for a title anyway, the market for Kyrie was limited to very few teams and he's expiring and wants a full max which should make every GM in the league cringe

because of Kyrie's crazyness but also because he will be 34-5 by the time that contract ends, and he is a small, not very durable Guard

well..except Cuban naturally. Cuban is cringe so he's immune to cringing i guess
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Re: 2023 trade deadline (February 9) 

Post#380 » by basketballRob » Sun Feb 5, 2023 10:19 pm

Exp0sed wrote:
chilluminati wrote:Kyrie just got traded to the Mavs :O


OMG, Cuban is a serious clown
and their FO are worse

goddamn
They got a 27.4 ppg player for 2 role players and a draft pick.

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