RGM GOAT Debate Thread

Fencer reregistered · Post #361 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 3:23 am

HighFlyer23 wrote:Doesn't matter at this point

There's nothing he can do to become to goat

True. He's never catching Russell.

But he's improving his case for second place over Kareem.

trickshot · Post #362 » by **trickshot** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 3:52 am

39yr olds don't just 'decide' to be the best player on an allstar team unless they already were. The fact that this is even doable puts anyone in a very exclusive class of excellence. Maybe even the only one.

MrBigShot · Post #363 » by **MrBigShot** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:07 am

This has little impact on his GOAT case. He already has legitimate case for GOAT, certainly moreso than anyone else not named Michael Jordan.

durden_tyler · Post #364 » by **durden_tyler** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:45 am

dirkdiggler4177 wrote:LeBron is playing point guard and really running this team. It is almost like it is an all-star game and the team has already decided that the home kid is getting the MVP. He could easily stayed at home considering he got the gold and is 39. But instead, he shows up with a Kobe during the Olympics energy.

So is LeBron using the Olympics to get the GOAT stamp?

Yes, he's using it to confirm he's the 2nd GOAT.

AmIWrongDude · Post #365 » by **AmIWrongDude** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:59 am

brutalitops wrote:He's 39 years old

I have 3 players in the best ever spot and I won't call either Russell/MJ/Lebron the clear goat.

At worst if you hate him, let's say top 10

Winning a gold medal doesn't push him higher on ANYONE's ranking. It's an achievement for him, yeah his legacy as well, it's not going to budge the goat argument for anyone.

Yeah but anyone that calls him just “top 10” isn’t just a hater, they’re delusional.

But yeah winning gold doesn’t do much. It’s crazy that every single thing he does is seen as some calculated move for his legacy. It’s weird and kinda pathetic how people go out of their way to create narratives out of thin air.

Dude loves basketball and is getting the chance to win one more gold for his country. That’s it. Anything else is people grasping at straws.

AmIWrongDude · Post #366 » by **AmIWrongDude** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 6:03 am

Heat3 wrote:Definitely done to pad his stats in the legacy department. He’s not going to he the GOAT though. By the time people forget MJ, someone else will get pushed to take the spot.

So LeBron is playing in the Olympics for his country to pad his…Olympic stats?

That’s really what you’re going with and you don’t think that sounds a little ridiculous? lol cmon

naabzor · Post #367 » by **naabzor** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:59 am

That ship has long sailed brah.

Edrees · Post #368 » by **Edrees** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:47 am

This implicaiton here is that he doesnt' care or value a gold medal, that he's just getting one so people can consider him the goat. No, that's not true. He wants the gold medal because he's a competitor. I'm sure he also wants it partly to help his goat case but because he actually wants a gold medal, the answer to whether he's "Using" it for the goat case is a resounding no. Especially because he knows it will have mimimal impact. If he didn't actually want the gold itself it wouldn't have been worth it for him to put all this effort.

Camby_Bamby · Post #369 » by **Camby_Bamby** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:58 am

Way too early to guarantee that Team USA wins, honestly. And if they lose, his fans will say he’s old and the ‘Lebron is leading team USA’ threads and articles will be scrubbed.

Fencer reregistered · Post #370 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:26 am

AmIWrongDude wrote:
brutalitops wrote:He's 39 years old

I have 3 players in the best ever spot and I won't call either Russell/MJ/Lebron the clear goat.

At worst if you hate him, let's say top 10

Winning a gold medal doesn't push him higher on ANYONE's ranking. It's an achievement for him, yeah his legacy as well, it's not going to budge the goat argument for anyone.

Yeah but anyone that calls him just “top 10” isn’t just a hater, they’re delusional.

But yeah winning gold doesn’t do much. It’s crazy that every single thing he does is seen as some calculated move for his legacy. It’s weird and kinda pathetic how people go out of their way to create narratives out of thin air.

Dude loves basketball and is getting the chance to win one more gold for his country. That’s it. Anything else is people grasping at straws.

Indeed. This could well be his last chance to win a major championship.

The4thHorseman · Post #371 » by **The4thHorseman** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:34 am

If the Postal Sevice was smart, they'd put out a LeBron stamp.

bkkrh · Post #372 » by **bkkrh** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:36 am

There is literally a thread about Lebron's legacy if he wins Olympics MVP on page 2 of this board.

BobbyPortisEyes · Post #373 » by **BobbyPortisEyes** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:51 am

bkkrh wrote:There is literally a thread about Lebron's legacy if he wins Olympics MVP on page 2 of this board.

Yes but the wording wasn't negative enough.

Post #374 » by **NO-KG-AI** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:18 pm

I’m not sure how going to the Olympics and barely squeaking wins out against teams led by Wenyen Gabriel is the big flex people want it to be.

BobbyPortisEyes · Post #375 » by **BobbyPortisEyes** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:21 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:I’m not sure how going to the Olympics and barely squeaking wins out against teams led by Wenyen Gabriel is the big flex people want it to be.

Post #376 » by **ThunderBolt** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:21 pm

I think most people's minds are made up at this point. I'm one of the few that would probably move Lebron to the GOAT if he won another NBA title, even if he was the second best player on his team. Olympics don't really impact that conversation for me.

MavsDirk41 · Post #377 » by **MavsDirk41** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:23 pm

NO-KG-AI wrote:I’m not sure how going to the Olympics and barely squeaking wins out against teams led by Wenyen Gabriel is the big flex people want it to be.

Yea i agree with this. Doesnt help his legacy in a goat argument if USA brings home gold or hurt his goat legacy if they dont. They should win and dominate to be honest.

MavsDirk41 · Post #378 » by **MavsDirk41** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:23 pm

The4thHorseman wrote:If the Postal Sevice was smart, they'd put out a LeBron stamp.

Ok Nick Wright

Iwasawitness · Post #379 » by **Iwasawitness** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 2:17 pm

Wingy wrote:
Iwasawitness wrote:I know this is a popular anti LeBron argument but I’ve always found the idea of one black mark in a 20 year career stopping someone from reaching GOAT status to be incredibly silly. MJ may not have had something as bad as 2011 but he’s never done anything as impressive as 2016 either.

Tell me, does 2008 stop Tom Brady from being the GOAT QB?

One black mark is a good way to poo poo something ridiculously huge. Like oops. It was an accident! It was an entire series.

Brady only plays half the game, and his legendary coach made some pretty questionable decisions, and it was only one game, so nah, not really a great example.

Not as impressed with 2016 as LeBron Lovers. Literally a moronic Draymond decision away from losing 4-1 in that series.

Anyway, there’s a thread for this kind of debate, so I’ll stop hijacking this one.

People answered the OP’s question pretty early. This doesn’t matter for the GOAT debate. It’s a fun last international farewell tour for a group of legends, and I’m glad to see Lebron, Steph, and KD get this hopefully gold send off.

Yeah, a moronic Draymond decision away from losing 4-1 but they still had three games needed to win the series, which were done with back to back 40 point performances and a triple double. I’m not going to deny that MJ going 6-0 is impressive but nothing beats being the first to come back down 3-1 against an all time great team. The fact of the matter is, MJ never did anything close to that.

SlimShady83 · Post #380 » by **SlimShady83** » Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:15 pm

New thread been merged for anyone wondering what the.

Thanks mods.

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