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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#381 » by Ethion » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:28 pm

Whether Durant realized it or not, he placed himself in a lose-lose situation. It doesn't matter what reasons he had for joining the Warriors. NBA fans are not upset that he left the Thunder. He had a good run with the team, took them the the Finals, went to the WCF multiple times, and won an MVP award there. NBA fans would not be upset if he went to the Celtics, who were in the running for acquiring him. Why? Because the Celtics are a mid-tier, up-and-coming young franchise. In fact, he literally could've joined any team that didn't have a first team All-NBA player on it without much blowback.

This is called a weak move by fans and media like because he joined the Warriors. He joined a team that doesn't even need him to get to the WCF, at the least. It's seen as weak because it looks like an easy way for him to win championships. We want our sports athletes to take only the hard road, because that's what sports is to Americans. It's seeing that guy push through adversity and the obstacles, giving it everything he's got, and winning the prize in the end. When someone does a shortcut, it's seen as bad in sports. Durant, in the eyes of many, took a shortcut by joining the Warriors.

I live in the Bay Area and am a Warriors fan, and I will gladly take getting Durant as a consolation prize to losing in the Finals last year. But I can see why people are acting like they are, even months after he made his decision and even when the media still wants to ask him questions like this.

All in all, we don't know what Durant's legacy will be, because he's still playing. Championships are never de-valued, no matter how stacked your team is. Who can name the 1957 MLB champs right off the top of their head? Exactly, fifty years from now, people won't be able to say that about the 2015 NBA champs either.
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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#382 » by Andre Roberstan » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:33 pm

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So Curry is greater overall than Durant just because he is better atm? If we go by your logic, Curry is overall already greater than Dirk just because he is better now. That's a silly argument. Durant and Curry are close overall in terms of greatness but there is no doubt Durant was an elite player for a significantly longer period and that matters when looking at an overall players' greatness. Steph achieved for sure and having a better team around him which required elite coaching (something OKC lacked so much over the years) and much better team chemistry helped for sure. Also had a better front office in GSW. OKC's front office can't be forgiven for the awful Harden trade.

In any case, you assume Durant can't be the best on this team (which is pretty expected from the ppl who hate him) but the future will disappoint you and you will see. Assuming good health, at worst he would be looked at as an equal to Steph. At worst. Bookmark this post if you want.


Yes, Curry is better than Durant at the moment because he is better at the moment. I don't see how that's controversial. Curry has reached a level Durant never has, even pre-foot injuries, and has sustained it through two MVP seasons. The Warriors are Curry's team and Durant joined Curry's team. Although they are built well, their success is driven by his unearthly abilities. What is even the argument for Durant over Curry again? Whether you factor individual success, team success, or some combination of both, Curry comes out on top. Durant is taller maybe?


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He has "no argument" yet winning this poll easily on a board that hates him.
Your hate for Durant is something else.


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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#383 » by StepBackCrack » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:43 pm

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Yes, Curry is better than Durant at the moment because he is better at the moment. I don't see how that's controversial. Curry has reached a level Durant never has, even pre-foot injuries, and has sustained it through two MVP seasons. The Warriors are Curry's team and Durant joined Curry's team. Although they are built well, their success is driven by his unearthly abilities. What is even the argument for Durant over Curry again? Whether you factor individual success, team success, or some combination of both, Curry comes out on top. Durant is taller maybe?


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He has "no argument" yet winning this poll easily on a board that hates him.
Your hate for Durant is something else.


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No. Patches meant all-time as well. Not saying that you can't pick Steph in that poll but it's beyond silly to say that Durant has "no argument" over Steph overall. Durant is the greater player for most. He isn't inferior to Steph overall. Steph was better the last 2 seasons. None can deny that. But does that mean he will be better than Durant next season? Who the hell knows. We will have to wait and see. Assuming Durant will be worse than Steph next season is just wishful thinking from his haters atm. We still have to see what happens and then judge objectively.
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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#384 » by Nazrmohamed » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:48 pm

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RingsDontLie wrote:Let's not beat around the bush here. Curry is a top basketball player, Klay isn't. Lebron and Kyrie are a tier above Klay. To even things out a bit, you now have Curry and Durant, two top players versus two other top players in Lebron and Kyrie. It's the top players that win the finals, and now it has evened out.


What?!!! Klay Thompson is a way better player than Kyrie Irving. Up until the finals one might not know the difference between Kyrie and JR Smith.....and I'm talking JR Smith on the Knicks and Nuggets. Please let's stop with this Kyrie the superstar talk. He has one good series.

Thompson is a star player dude. Why can't people just give him credit. Hes the best defensive SG in the league and pretty much averages 30 the second Curry sits down.

I don't even care about this silly Durant bitch fest but Thompson is not so far below Curry in my opinion


Best defensive sg in the leagu1?! are you for real?
He takes on challenges on the defensive end but he gets roasted everytime.
Also, it seems like hand checking doesn't apply to him


give some alternatives then, at SG. whose better?
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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#385 » by blazeyo » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:51 pm

Nazrmohamed wrote:
blazeyo wrote:
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What?!!! Klay Thompson is a way better player than Kyrie Irving. Up until the finals one might not know the difference between Kyrie and JR Smith.....and I'm talking JR Smith on the Knicks and Nuggets. Please let's stop with this Kyrie the superstar talk. He has one good series.

Thompson is a star player dude. Why can't people just give him credit. Hes the best defensive SG in the league and pretty much averages 30 the second Curry sits down.

I don't even care about this silly Durant bitch fest but Thompson is not so far below Curry in my opinion


Best defensive sg in the leagu1?! are you for real?
He takes on challenges on the defensive end but he gets roasted everytime.
Also, it seems like hand checking doesn't apply to him


give some alternatives then, at SG. whose better?


Defensively? or all around?
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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#386 » by Andre Roberstan » Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:54 pm

blazeyo wrote:
Nazrmohamed wrote:
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Best defensive sg in the leagu1?! are you for real?
He takes on challenges on the defensive end but he gets roasted everytime.
Also, it seems like hand checking doesn't apply to him


give some alternatives then, at SG. whose better?


Defensively? or all around?

If we're just talking defensively Tony Allen and Avery Bradley, maybe Danny Green. Klay's very very good but he's not the best.
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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#387 » by Patches Perry » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:19 pm

KD_Steph wrote:
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KD_Steph wrote:
viewtopic.php?f=64&t=1465584&start=40#start_here
He has "no argument" yet winning this poll easily on a board that hates him.
Your hate for Durant is something else.


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No. Patches meant all-time as well. Not saying that you can't pick Steph in that poll but it's beyond silly to say that Durant has "no argument" over Steph overall. Durant is the greater player for most. He isn't inferior to Steph overall. Steph was better the last 2 seasons. None can deny that. But does that mean he will be better than Durant next season? Who the hell knows. We will have to wait and see. Assuming Durant will be worse than Steph next season is just wishful thinking from his haters atm. We still have to see what happens and then judge objectively.


Can you cite where I said Curry has had a better career than Durant? Probably not, because I never said it. Career-wise it's close right now and could go either way. I know it's asking a bit much for me to expect objectivity from someone with the name "KD_Steph" but you're being pretty dishonest here. You can't tell me it's Durant's team in 2016-2017, then after realizing how foolish that argument is, try to make up things that I didn't say to hide from the folly of your original position. I'll squash that for you. Durant has had a better career marginally due to longevity, but Curry is clearly the better player the past 3 years, and the Warriors are clearly his team. Any objections? If so, what is your argument for Durant being the best player on the Warriors over Curry in 2016?
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Post#388 » by bondom34 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:32 pm

Ethion wrote:Whether Durant realized it or not, he placed himself in a lose-lose situation. It doesn't matter what reasons he had for joining the Warriors. NBA fans are not upset that he left the Thunder. He had a good run with the team, took them the the Finals, went to the WCF multiple times, and won an MVP award there. NBA fans would not be upset if he went to the Celtics, who were in the running for acquiring him. Why? Because the Celtics are a mid-tier, up-and-coming young franchise. In fact, he literally could've joined any team that didn't have a first team All-NBA player on it without much blowback.

This is called a weak move by fans and media like because he joined the Warriors. He joined a team that doesn't even need him to get to the WCF, at the least. It's seen as weak because it looks like an easy way for him to win championships. We want our sports athletes to take only the hard road, because that's what sports is to Americans. It's seeing that guy push through adversity and the obstacles, giving it everything he's got, and winning the prize in the end. When someone does a shortcut, it's seen as bad in sports. Durant, in the eyes of many, took a shortcut by joining the Warriors.

I live in the Bay Area and am a Warriors fan, and I will gladly take getting Durant as a consolation prize to losing in the Finals last year. But I can see why people are acting like they are, even months after he made his decision and even when the media still wants to ask him questions like this.

All in all, we don't know what Durant's legacy will be, because he's still playing. Championships are never de-valued, no matter how stacked your team is. Who can name the 1957 MLB champs right off the top of their head? Exactly, fifty years from now, people won't be able to say that about the 2015 NBA champs either.

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This guy gets it. I don't exactly agree with the last paragraph, but pretty darn close.
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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#389 » by ILOVEIT » Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:46 pm

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Ethion wrote:Whether Durant realized it or not, he placed himself in a lose-lose situation. It doesn't matter what reasons he had for joining the Warriors. NBA fans are not upset that he left the Thunder. He had a good run with the team, took them the the Finals, went to the WCF multiple times, and won an MVP award there. NBA fans would not be upset if he went to the Celtics, who were in the running for acquiring him. Why? Because the Celtics are a mid-tier, up-and-coming young franchise. In fact, he literally could've joined any team that didn't have a first team All-NBA player on it without much blowback.

This is called a weak move by fans and media like because he joined the Warriors. He joined a team that doesn't even need him to get to the WCF, at the least. It's seen as weak because it looks like an easy way for him to win championships. We want our sports athletes to take only the hard road, because that's what sports is to Americans. It's seeing that guy push through adversity and the obstacles, giving it everything he's got, and winning the prize in the end. When someone does a shortcut, it's seen as bad in sports. Durant, in the eyes of many, took a shortcut by joining the Warriors.

I live in the Bay Area and am a Warriors fan, and I will gladly take getting Durant as a consolation prize to losing in the Finals last year. But I can see why people are acting like they are, even months after he made his decision and even when the media still wants to ask him questions like this.

All in all, we don't know what Durant's legacy will be, because he's still playing. Championships are never de-valued, no matter how stacked your team is. Who can name the 1957 MLB champs right off the top of their head? Exactly, fifty years from now, people won't be able to say that about the 2015 NBA champs either.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

This guy gets it. I don't exactly agree with the last paragraph, but pretty darn close.


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Post#390 » by Asianiac_24 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:24 pm

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Love wasn't even on the Cavs at the time. :banghead:


Everyone, including probably Love and Wiggins themselves, knew that Love was going to Cleveland. LeBron's letter didn't even mention Andrew Wiggins.
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Post#391 » by mtron929 » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:29 pm

Ethion wrote:Whether Durant realized it or not, he placed himself in a lose-lose situation. It doesn't matter what reasons he had for joining the Warriors. NBA fans are not upset that he left the Thunder. He had a good run with the team, took them the the Finals, went to the WCF multiple times, and won an MVP award there. NBA fans would not be upset if he went to the Celtics, who were in the running for acquiring him. Why? Because the Celtics are a mid-tier, up-and-coming young franchise. In fact, he literally could've joined any team that didn't have a first team All-NBA player on it without much blowback.

This is called a weak move by fans and media like because he joined the Warriors. He joined a team that doesn't even need him to get to the WCF, at the least. It's seen as weak because it looks like an easy way for him to win championships. We want our sports athletes to take only the hard road, because that's what sports is to Americans. It's seeing that guy push through adversity and the obstacles, giving it everything he's got, and winning the prize in the end. When someone does a shortcut, it's seen as bad in sports. Durant, in the eyes of many, took a shortcut by joining the Warriors.

I live in the Bay Area and am a Warriors fan, and I will gladly take getting Durant as a consolation prize to losing in the Finals last year. But I can see why people are acting like they are, even months after he made his decision and even when the media still wants to ask him questions like this.

All in all, we don't know what Durant's legacy will be, because he's still playing. Championships are never de-valued, no matter how stacked your team is. Who can name the 1957 MLB champs right off the top of their head? Exactly, fifty years from now, people won't be able to say that about the 2015 NBA champs either.


Pretty good post.

There are many superstar players who just could not win the ring. Names like Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Steve Nash, Patrick Ewing come to mind. I suspect that Durant did not want to join that crowd as I think had he joined any other team, there was a pretty good chance that his trajectory would have gone towards that direction. Moreover, given that it is still not clear to me whether 2016-17 Curry will be better than the 2016-17 Durant, there is a good chance that Durant becomes the best player on the team, and the main cog that leads the Warriors to not one but multiple championships. If that is the case, then his move to the Warriors will be seen as a resounding success. Time will tell.
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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#392 » by jswede » Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:59 pm

Asianiac_24 wrote:
Shot Clock wrote:
Love wasn't even on the Cavs at the time. :banghead:


Everyone, including probably Love and Wiggins themselves, knew that Love was going to Cleveland. LeBron's letter didn't even mention Andrew Wiggins.


Exactly. It's a trade. In aggregate, equal value.
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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#393 » by jswede » Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:03 am

Ethion wrote:Whether Durant realized it or not, he placed himself in a lose-lose situation. It doesn't matter what reasons he had for joining the Warriors. NBA fans are not upset that he left the Thunder. He had a good run with the team, took them the the Finals, went to the WCF multiple times, and won an MVP award there. NBA fans would not be upset if he went to the Celtics, who were in the running for acquiring him. Why? Because the Celtics are a mid-tier, up-and-coming young franchise. In fact, he literally could've joined any team that didn't have a first team All-NBA player on it without much blowback.

This is called a weak move by fans and media like because he joined the Warriors. He joined a team that doesn't even need him to get to the WCF, at the least. It's seen as weak because it looks like an easy way for him to win championships. We want our sports athletes to take only the hard road, because that's what sports is to Americans. It's seeing that guy push through adversity and the obstacles, giving it everything he's got, and winning the prize in the end. When someone does a shortcut, it's seen as bad in sports. Durant, in the eyes of many, took a shortcut by joining the Warriors.

I live in the Bay Area and am a Warriors fan, and I will gladly take getting Durant as a consolation prize to losing in the Finals last year. But I can see why people are acting like they are, even months after he made his decision and even when the media still wants to ask him questions like this.

All in all, we don't know what Durant's legacy will be, because he's still playing. Championships are never de-valued, no matter how stacked your team is. Who can name the 1957 MLB champs right off the top of their head? Exactly, fifty years from now, people won't be able to say that about the 2015 NBA champs either.


I'll be dead in 50 years. 50 years?! Who cares??

In the meantime, KD will be the measuring stick by which free agency moves will be measured. He topped it out. No one will eclipse this, and that's why it will be remembered. Maybe for 50 years.
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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#394 » by Emtokay » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:48 am

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lol at implying that he isn't capable of looking the best on his new team. I bet you wish him the worst with GSW but that's not gonna happen if he is healthy. He can fit perfectly there so we have to wait and see what happens. And btw, he is the greatest player on GSW's roaster (because he has been an elite player for a significantly longer period than Steph). Durant is blessed with height/athleticism that Steph doesn't have so his impact can be great on both ends in GSW. His combo of skill, height and athleticism makes him the most gifted player on Golden State for sure. So yeah, his potential is pretty high in GSW. In any case, I don't care about who will be the "alpha dog" on the team because I'm pretty sure none on GS cares about that crap. It's not in their culture which is great. They are all very unselfish players who play the right way and that what makes them very likable as a team. Durant clearly had enough with playing ISO ball with Russ in OKC and finally he will have more fun on court playing great team basketball in a much better system. It's a new great experience for him and he will never regret his choice.


There is no argument for Durant over Curry right now. They're roughly the same age. Curry is coming off of back to back MVPs and statistically dominant seasons, both in which his team was the best in the league. Durant joined Curry's team and not vice versa. Curry is coming off of beating Durant's team in the playoffs. There really isn't a single thing to argue in Durant's favor that couldn't also be argued about Derrick Rose. Being better than Curry 3-4 years ago is not really relevant.


So Curry is greater overall than Durant just because he is better atm? If we go by your logic, Curry is overall already greater than Dirk just because he is better now. That's a silly argument. Durant and Curry are close overall in terms of greatness but there is no doubt Durant was an elite player for a significantly longer period and that matters when looking at an overall players' greatness. Steph achieved for sure and having a better team around him which required elite coaching (something OKC lacked so much over the years) and much better team chemistry helped for sure. Also had a better front office in GSW. OKC's front office can't be forgiven for the awful Harden trade.

In any case, you assume Durant can't be the best on this team (which is pretty expected from the ppl who hate him) but the future will disappoint you and you will see. Assuming good health, at worst he would be looked at as an equal to Steph. At worst. Bookmark this post if you want.


curry has teams looking over there shoulder waiting for the hammer. that is a HUGE psychological advantage for both opponents and gsw. opponents because it's something that hinders them, for gsw because it allows them to play as if it were practice. kd doesn' t come close to having this effect.
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Post#395 » by StepBackCrack » Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:51 am

Patches Perry wrote:
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No. Patches meant all-time as well. Not saying that you can't pick Steph in that poll but it's beyond silly to say that Durant has "no argument" over Steph overall. Durant is the greater player for most. He isn't inferior to Steph overall. Steph was better the last 2 seasons. None can deny that. But does that mean he will be better than Durant next season? Who the hell knows. We will have to wait and see. Assuming Durant will be worse than Steph next season is just wishful thinking from his haters atm. We still have to see what happens and then judge objectively.


Can you cite where I said Curry has had a better career than Durant? Probably not, because I never said it. Career-wise it's close right now and could go either way. I know it's asking a bit much for me to expect objectivity from someone with the name "KD_Steph" but you're being pretty dishonest here. You can't tell me it's Durant's team in 2016-2017, then after realizing how foolish that argument is, try to make up things that I didn't say to hide from the folly of your original position. I'll squash that for you. Durant has had a better career marginally due to longevity, but Curry is clearly the better player the past 3 years, and the Warriors are clearly his team. Any objections? If so, what is your argument for Durant being the best player on the Warriors over Curry in 2016?


Wow. You are really embarrassing yourself here. Better player in the past 3 years? Better than Durant in 2014? You clearly have an agenda against Durant. That much is clear. There are only 2 seasons where Steph was better that Durant and those were the last 2 seasons. In one of those seasons Durant was actually injured after his great MVP season. To be fair to Steph, he had his fair share of injures as well in the past. Healthy Steph was better than a healthy Durant last season. No argument from me there but their peak MVP seasons are pretty close in terms of level of play if you really take into consideration the bad supporting cast and awful coaching in Durant's team in 2014. Steph had much much better supporting cast on 2016 GSW which made him look better stats-wise. Nonetheless I have no issue whatsoever in anyone saying 16 Steph > 14 KD because Steph was beyond great in 2016 RS. However, the difference wasn't big at all in terms of level compared to Durant's MVP season given his help back then. He was beyond incredible as well. His MVP season was among the best MVP seasons in the last 15 years. Steph 2015's MVP RS season was below Durant's 2014 MVP RS season in terms of level but he totally deserved that award.

Your fault is that assuming Durant can't improve or will for sure be a "2nd fiddle" to Steph even tho in terms of greatness overall, they are pretty damn close. There is no rule that says Durant can't be the best player on GSW. Only haters believe that before even watching any match of this new GSW team and how Durant will play. Durant doesn't lack talent or work ethic to be the best on this team. This is different from Wade/LeBron on the Heat where the talent difference is clear between LeBron and Wade. In Curry/Durant case, the talent difference is almost nothing. Both are almost equally talented. I only said Durant is more gifted due to his height/athleticism which gives him higher potential on the defensive end. He can still improve defensively and being on GSW can help him improve there. My argument wasn't foolish at all. I only said that Durant has the potential to be the best on his new team which is something many people can see. The potential is there. Ruling that out is what is foolish because he is clearly not less talented than Steph. Both are about even in that department. Plus it doesn't have to be anyone's team. GSW's culture is built on unselfishness after all. It will be THEIR team.

Edit : Just to add, I don't mind people who are predicting that he will be the 2nd best player. Just had an issue with ppl ruling out a possibility of him looking the best next season or in the future in general. What you said about Durant is a prediction. Doesn't mean that it will happen. You and me are no different in that regard. You predict Durant to not be great or at least equal to Steph on GSW and I predict the opposite. Only the future can prove who will be right. We have to wait and see.
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Post#396 » by prech » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:08 am

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prech wrote:The cap jumped $24M from 2015/16 to 2016/17, that increase alone was almost enough to enable GSW to sign KD to his max. IIRC 26 of 30 teams had enough space to for a max player slot.

In GSW's case, they simply would have needed to drop another ~$4M from their books as soon as KD said yes, irregardless of how much Steph was paid. That $4M could have beeen Livingston or another role player. Steph's low salary had _some_ impact, but it was not significant for this signing.

Source: Read any salary cap website, or this Zach Lowe article: http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/16766273/the-warriors-makings-all-super-team-addition-kevin-durant


While they could've offed Livingston, that eats away at their depth for one. Keeping Livingston and Igoudala means they have their 2 best bench players coming back from last year, instead of having to rely on an Ish Smith type replacement.

Also should be noted that Steph's low salary is likely what made signing Igoudala possible. Recall they had to give up two 1st round picks to dump the finals years of Biedrins and a couple others to make room for that. Steph at ~$11M instead of the MAX or what would've been his caphold before re-signing in the summer 2013 made things easier. They would've likely had to dump more assets to move another $4M.

Depth is certainly a concern for any team. For the duration of the Heat super friends, they were struggling with filling out their roster.

It's virtually impossible to know what could have happened had Steph signed a more lucrative contract, three years is a lot of time. The important point is not to spread falsehoods and misinformation about how Steph's relatively cheap contract enabled KD's signing.
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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#397 » by nbafan38 » Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:55 am

Ethion wrote:Whether Durant realized it or not, he placed himself in a lose-lose situation. It doesn't matter what reasons he had for joining the Warriors. NBA fans are not upset that he left the Thunder. He had a good run with the team, took them the the Finals, went to the WCF multiple times, and won an MVP award there. NBA fans would not be upset if he went to the Celtics, who were in the running for acquiring him. Why? Because the Celtics are a mid-tier, up-and-coming young franchise. In fact, he literally could've joined any team that didn't have a first team All-NBA player on it without much blowback.

This is called a weak move by fans and media like because he joined the Warriors. He joined a team that doesn't even need him to get to the WCF, at the least. It's seen as weak because it looks like an easy way for him to win championships. We want our sports athletes to take only the hard road, because that's what sports is to Americans. It's seeing that guy push through adversity and the obstacles, giving it everything he's got, and winning the prize in the end. When someone does a shortcut, it's seen as bad in sports. Durant, in the eyes of many, took a shortcut by joining the Warriors.

I live in the Bay Area and am a Warriors fan, and I will gladly take getting Durant as a consolation prize to losing in the Finals last year. But I can see why people are acting like they are, even months after he made his decision and even when the media still wants to ask him questions like this.

All in all, we don't know what Durant's legacy will be, because he's still playing. Championships are never de-valued, no matter how stacked your team is. Who can name the 1957 MLB champs right off the top of their head? Exactly, fifty years from now, people won't be able to say that about the 2015 NBA champs either.


Thank you well said, a warriors fan who gets it. Sure if you're a warrior fan this is amazing to have him but if you can't see why fans of the other 29 teams in the nba are kind of ticked off, best move for durant is to role with it and accept the role that he placed himself in rather than fight it and try to justify his move because no one outside of oakland is going to like it.
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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#398 » by DowJones » Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:46 am

Ethion wrote:Whether Durant realized it or not, he placed himself in a lose-lose situation. It doesn't matter what reasons he had for joining the Warriors. NBA fans are not upset that he left the Thunder. He had a good run with the team, took them the the Finals, went to the WCF multiple times, and won an MVP award there. NBA fans would not be upset if he went to the Celtics, who were in the running for acquiring him. Why? Because the Celtics are a mid-tier, up-and-coming young franchise. In fact, he literally could've joined any team that didn't have a first team All-NBA player on it without much blowback.

This is called a weak move by fans and media like because he joined the Warriors. He joined a team that doesn't even need him to get to the WCF, at the least. It's seen as weak because it looks like an easy way for him to win championships. We want our sports athletes to take only the hard road, because that's what sports is to Americans. It's seeing that guy push through adversity and the obstacles, giving it everything he's got, and winning the prize in the end. When someone does a shortcut, it's seen as bad in sports. Durant, in the eyes of many, took a shortcut by joining the Warriors.

I live in the Bay Area and am a Warriors fan, and I will gladly take getting Durant as a consolation prize to losing in the Finals last year. But I can see why people are acting like they are, even months after he made his decision and even when the media still wants to ask him questions like this.

All in all, we don't know what Durant's legacy will be, because he's still playing. Championships are never de-valued, no matter how stacked your team is. Who can name the 1957 MLB champs right off the top of their head? Exactly, fifty years from now, people won't be able to say that about the 2015 NBA champs either.


Rings alone don't define you as a player though. John Havlicek was an 8x NBA champion as well as a 13x all-star, Finals MVP, etc. is he considered better than LeBron because 8>3? Of course not. Durant can rip off 4 straight here and it wouldn't mean as much to Durant's legacy as 1 in OKC.
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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#399 » by narmerguy » Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:48 am

yoyoboy wrote:It's been like 3 months since he made his decision and I still can't believe what a weak, weak move that was. And quotes like these really show where his mindset is...

Obviously he's allowed to do as he pleases, which includes playing for whichever team he wants, but that doesn't restrict us as fans from being able to voice our opinions on it. Anyone who compares this to LeBron's decision (which was a weak move in itself, though how he went about it was definitely the worst part) is being naive. LeBron is the guy who made the Heat a super team and without him they would've been a lower playoff seed, plus the team was new and unproven. Durant joined an experienced team that had the best regular season of all time and has one championship and 2 Finals appearances in the past 2 years - a team that could conceivably win the next 3 titles in a row EVEN if Durant never plays a single game... And it makes it worse that Durant led his team to a 3-1 collapse when they played each other in the playoffs last year.

The situations aren't comparable and I don't see where people are coming from when they say with a straight face that they don't see anything wrong with his decision.


Once again, that team is gone. They had to give up multiple pieces to fit Durant. I get that he still joined what would be a very good team, but it's not like they just took the past team and added Durant to it. They took the past team, took out some of their pieces, and then added Durant to it. I only harp on this because everyone is getting all hyped over the warriors, whereas I feel like they have a super massive glaring hole in the middle that people just like to ignore. Bogut was a great big for them, and their bench was a strength previously whereas now their bench is pretty weak. Iguodala is getting older and he's supposed to be their best defender. This just smells a lot to me like people getting transfixed with the big names and ignoring all the flaws in this team.
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Re: Durant looks worse everytime he talks about his decision 

Post#400 » by meekrab » Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:56 am

Kristaps6_NYK wrote:So he admits he wants everything to be easy. To put into perspective its like he's taking steroids which mean there doesn't have to be so much hard work for him.

How the hell could you be so satisfied with yourself? **** POS, I can't stand this ****.

You seem mad that the knicks suck and are going to continue to suck. :lol:

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