2019 NBA Finals Thread #4: Golden State Warriors vs Toronto Raptors | TIED AT 1

[floppymoose]

Referres changed the outcome of the game. They put all the Raptors in foul trouble making them less aggressive.

They also missed the technical when Curry come on to the court to celebrate plus goal tending by thompson on siakam. Add that it changes the outcome.

Nevertheless, Warriors turned on their A game third quarter raptors couldnt contain.

Van Vleet steal. The ball is loose. VV and Curry give chase. VV shoves Curry. Curry is called for a foul. Your thoughts?

My thoughts are ref whining is for losers. Just like asterisks, or hate threads about great players.

[Vlade Divac]

Without going into every single call especially in first half where
favourite whistle kept Warriors alive, just a list of calls for a total
of 9 points directly GIFTED to GSW - side effect - Raptors into foul
trouble





Klay rim interference automatic 2 points Raptors



Foul on Danny Green not called- ensuing possession Warriors score



Cousins charge (instead Lowry gets 5th personal (2 points)



All ball Siakam - instead Curry 2 free trows (2 Points)



Six players on the court automatic tech (1 Point)

[alebaba]

Curry said, "The janky defense they were employing on me was flattering. I mean, thank you".

The troll is strong in this one.

FVV has been getting away with some serious hand checking.

Iggy and Green two of the biggest hand checker in the league and you want to talk about FVV, Welcome to playoff basketball. Curry fans always with the excuses.

[TheGOATWill]

The easiest way for the league to alter and shape the outcome of a game is simply get Impactful players in foul trouble early

Anyone thinking the league wanted the Raps to take a 2-0 lead while at the same time assigning Tony Brothers and Scott Foster to the same game is delusional.

Those two are hands down, the most corrupt referees working today. Even Joey Crawford was not as blatant as these two chimps.

It's a disgrace.

Kawhi drives. Goes up to shoot. Stripped clean by Cousins. Boogie called for a foul. Curry blindly flings ball in the air that lands at the feet of Scott Foster. Technical foul. Was that also disgraceful?

[Scorpion King]

It's easy for GSW fans to say Raptors should stop complaining. I wonder what the reaction would be if Raptors won.

GSW deserved the win. Raptors need to come out more aggresively game 3 especially Gasol. Hobbled up Cousins should not be this effective.

I think Igudola was faking the injury. If he truly was injured he would not be playing

[Darth Celtic]

Loony is the better defender...

Your Cousins takes are consistently loopy. Looney might do 1 thing better than Cousins defensively. And certainly on offense he's just the sort of basic game roleplayer that a top defensive team has no trouble neutralizing. You know exactly what he can and cannot do.

Your love of cousins biases you to insane levels. Cousins is a serious defensive liability all that said I'm loving how much effort the guy is playing with and I'm seriously crossing my fingers he doesn't hurt himself.

He's not good at pick and roll defense, but as a help defender, 1 on 1 against big in the post, and rebounding he's actually good. He passed the eye test watching the game and looking at the box scores backs it up. He had 10 rebounds, 9 defensive, and 2 blocks in only 28 mins.

[dhsilv2]

Your Cousins takes are consistently loopy. Looney might do 1 thing better than Cousins defensively. And certainly on offense he's just the sort of basic game roleplayer that a top defensive team has no trouble neutralizing. You know exactly what he can and cannot do.

Your love of cousins biases you to insane levels. Cousins is a serious defensive liability all that said I'm loving how much effort the guy is playing with and I'm seriously crossing my fingers he doesn't hurt himself.

He's not good at pick and roll defense, but as a help defender, 1 on 1 against big in the post, and rebounding he's actually good. He passed the eye test watching the game and looking at the box scores backs it up. He had 10 rebounds, 9 defensive, and 2 blocks in only 28 mins.

He's a very good rebounder, agree there. He's fine if he's guarding Gasol as well one on one (though Gasol isn't all that interested in scoring anyway it seems). His 2 blocks also game with 5 fouls. Not exactly good sound defense. That said he had a great game by his standards.

[GusFring]

I think warriors lose that game without Cousins contributions, that game had to feel good for him.

[My2CentsR]

The easiest way for the league to alter and shape the outcome of a game is simply get Impactful players in foul trouble early

Anyone thinking the league wanted the Raps to take a 2-0 lead while at the same time assigning Tony Brothers and Scott Foster to the same game is delusional.

Those two are hands down, the most corrupt referees working today. Even Joey Crawford was not as blatant as these two chimps.

It's a disgrace.

Kawhi drives. Goes up to shoot. Stripped clean by Cousins. Boogie called for a foul. Curry blindly flings ball in the air that lands at the feet of Scott Foster. Technical foul. Was that also disgraceful?

Plus, in important 4th quarter plays, Kawhi drops his shoulder into Draymond, then travels. Gets the shot and one. Please stop with the refs favoring the Warriors. I forget how annoying I must be complaining about the refs going the other way until I read the Raptors complaining after watching the same game. Selective anecdotes.

Not to mention Raptors went to the line 26 vs Warriors 22, and Lowry fouled out b/c he's not the brightest crayon in the box. 5 fouls and you risk the 6th by slapping Cousins when he's twice your size?

[zshawn10]

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[old skool]

Complaining about NBA officiating is lame. They have the best refs in the world. They have a difficulty job and will never be perfect.

Anyone who thinks they can do better should grab a whistle and become an NBA ref. Do a great job and enjoy earning a few hundred thousand dollars a year. Complaining is lame.

[My2CentsR]

The easiest way for the league to alter and shape the outcome of a game is simply get Impactful players in foul trouble early

Anyone thinking the league wanted the Raps to take a 2-0 lead while at the same time assigning Tony Brothers and Scott Foster to the same game is delusional.

Those two are hands down, the most corrupt referees working today. Even Joey Crawford was not as blatant as these two chimps.

It's a disgrace.

Kawhi drives. Goes up to shoot. Stripped clean by Cousins. Boogie called for a foul. Curry blindly flings ball in the air that lands at the feet of Scott Foster. Technical foul. Was that also disgraceful?

Plus, in important 4th quarter plays, Kawhi drops his shoulder into Draymond, then travels. Gets the shot and one. Please stop with the refs favoring the Warriors. I forget how annoying I must be complaining about the refs going the other way until I read the Raptors complaining after watching the same game. Selective anecdotes.

Not to mention Raptors went to the line 26 vs Warriors 22, and Lowry fouled out b/c he's not the brightest crayon in the box. 5 fouls and you risk the 6th by slapping Cousins when he's twice your size? At least wait to commit a smart foul in the final seconds.

[Pharmcat]

Without going into every single call especially in first half where
favourite whistle kept Warriors alive, just a list of calls for a total
of 9 points directly GIFTED to GSW - side effect - Raptors into foul
trouble





Klay rim interference automatic 2 points Raptors



Foul on Danny Green not called- ensuing possession Warriors score



Cousins charge (instead Lowry gets 5th personal (2 points)



All ball Siakam - instead Curry 2 free trows (2 Points)



Six players on the court automatic tech (1 Point)

Wonderful post. Raps were robbed

[Darth Celtic]

I think Bogut playing was also overlooked bonus. he did way better than Looney.

If they can go Bogut/Cousins at 5 the rest of the series, seems it might be good for the warriors big time.

Watching the game I find it funny that Raptors fans can complain about officials when their best player puts his elbow in the defenders chest and gets them flying back on every drive and usually gets free throws because of it. And Gasol looked like he was bending over half the GSW team on every rebound attempt without a call. I mean, the look on Clay's face as he ran back up the court at the officials about the 4th time he did it was priceless.

In the end, this wasn't biased refs. Game 1 the raptors didn't "grab or hold" on defense, but they did make a lot of contact that wasn't called a foul. They would use body and arms not extended to redirect the offensive player without calls. They were at home and most officials allow the home team to be more physical. Brothers as a ref always calls body contact a foul. You have to know as a team who the refs are and what they tend to call. They were fouls, neither team could make as much contact.

The Raptors did get some open looks they normally make and didn't. You can't hit them all every game.

[ken6199]

I think Igudola was faking the injury. If he truly was injured he would not be playing

He had a clash of his backhead on Gasol's arm. I think he did get knocked out then recovered from it.

Magically his left calf looked alright the whole game. Kerr wouldn't have started him had his calf not being reasonably decent.

[JAYZGOAT]

Thank you Warriors. Please get healthy and dominate the next 2 at Oracle.

Don't worry HeLeave regardless.

Really hope so! Ideal scenario is KD never returns, but Warriors start blowing them out every game and win in 5, 6 TOPS. That is likely to send both Kawhi and KD out.

Kawhi is leaving regardless and I am really rooting for him to go to the Clippers. I just hope the Warriors handle business sooner than later. Don't give this raptors team anymore confidence.

[FlatearthZorro]

Without going into every single call especially in first half where
favourite whistle kept Warriors alive, just a list of calls for a total
of 9 points directly GIFTED to GSW - side effect - Raptors into foul
trouble





Klay rim interference automatic 2 points Raptors



Foul on Danny Green not called- ensuing possession Warriors score



Cousins charge (instead Lowry gets 5th personal (2 points)



All ball Siakam - instead Curry 2 free trows (2 Points)



Six players on the court automatic tech (1 Point)

Klay's int was missed, two of the 3 refs were trash. But then again you had more FT than the Warriors, if I'm not mistaking Kawhi had 16, Warriors had 20 as a team. Stop complaining. Your team is fantastic on defense, but they do play very physical and it does depend on whether the refs will let it slide or not. Even on that pick Siakam has his hand over Curry's fingers. It's pathetic to call this all ball.

You got all the chances in the world to win this, don't look for lame excuses.

[Zvaart]

Without going into every single call especially in first half where
favourite whistle kept Warriors alive, just a list of calls for a total
of 9 points directly GIFTED to GSW - side effect - Raptors into foul
trouble





Klay rim interference automatic 2 points Raptors



Foul on Danny Green not called- ensuing possession Warriors score



Cousins charge (instead Lowry gets 5th personal (2 points)



All ball Siakam - instead Curry 2 free trows (2 Points)



Six players on the court automatic tech (1 Point)

Thank you, that was enlightening.

Do you happen to have one with the calls that favoured the raptors,too?

Unbelievable, it seems Raptors cannot loose a game without some of their fans complaining.


That last one with curry stepping on the court was the saddest one. You know, because the refs are always looking at the guys outside of the court. That was the truly game changer.

[ILOVEIT]

One thing for sure....Lowry STILL wants no part of pressure. Yes he had two very good games in the Eastern Playoffs up to this point...but that means the rest of them he was typical Lowry. Last night he hid behind dumb fouls and complaining....hit a couple of threes but this is a previous perennial all star who has relegated himself to a roll player.

So no...the story line of Lowry gagging in big moments is not over....it's on full display as Kawhi drags him around like dead bag of gag.

[000078ude54]

The easiest way for the league to alter and shape the outcome of a game is simply get Impactful players in foul trouble early

Anyone thinking the league wanted the Raps to take a 2-0 lead while at the same time assigning Tony Brothers and Scott Foster to the same game is delusional.

Those two are hands down, the most corrupt referees working today. Even Joey Crawford was not as blatant as these two chimps.

It's a disgrace.

THIS.

The NBA is a multi-billion dollar business that Silver & Co. aren't just going to leave up to good ol' fashioned competition. That includes steering which teams pick in the draft (i.e. Cavs three no. 1 picks in 4 years, AD gifted to Tom Benson for buying/keeping team in NOLA just 2 months prior to the 2012 draft), All-Star Games (NOLA and LA 3 times each in recent years), and yes, having marquee playoff series going 7 games instead of 4 or 5.

Look up former mafia boss Michael Franzese. During his heyday he was involved with sports betting and said that basketball is hands down the easiest sport to control the outcome of. The refs can essentially take key players out of the equation with timely fouls or let them slide with no-calls. Then, albeit with comparatively lesser frequency, players can point shave. There have been a number of NBA games I've seen in the last 5 years where I've wondered if certain players or teams have been paid to lay down so a series can be extended.

Tony Brothers, Scott Foster, Ken Mauer, Sean Corbin, and Ed Malloy are the league's ref goon squad. When they're on the court, you know the game is fixed.