Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex

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Did Lebron intentionally hit Stewart?

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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#381 » by RxOne » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:58 pm

98% of the post here are outright ridiculous.

Stewart put two hands on LeBrons body and pushed him off balance (hence the original foul call). Lebron took umbrage and tried to rip through the hold. The combination of the Lebrons rip through and Stewarts push changed the angular momentum of the swing and Stewart caught an accidental elbow to the eye area, followed by the back of Lebrons fist to the jaw.

Was it dirty? Probably, but guys throw elbows all the time, it's just this one produced a nasty cut. So, the level of pearl-clutching here is way overkill.

The people calling it a punch or talking about what Lebron was "aiming" for must have never been in a fight. This wasn't a fight, there were no punches thrown, there was no aiming, it was a bang-bang play involving two guys being over-aggressive. Common foul on the push, flagrant 2 / ejection for the severity of the contact, ejection for running around like a psycho. Possibly both suspended because it became a social-media spectacle. Seems cut and dry.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#382 » by KrAzY3 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:02 pm

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There is a reason bare knuckle boxing is banned in so many places. They wear the gloves for a reason and yet many boxers still have serious permanent injury. Boxers have died in the ring...

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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#383 » by Boardbreaker » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:04 pm

RxOne wrote:98% of the post here are outright ridiculous.

Stewart put two hands on LeBrons body and pushed him off balance (hence the original foul call). Lebron took umbrage and tried to rip through the hold. The combination of the Lebrons rip through and Stewarts push changed the angular momentum of the swing and Stewart caught an accidental elbow to the eye area, followed by the back of Lebrons fist to the jaw.

Was it dirty? Probably, but guys throw elbows all the time, it's just this one produced a nasty cut. So, the level of pearl-clutching here is way overkill.

The people calling it a punch or talking about what Lebron was "aiming" for must have never been in a fight. This wasn't a fight, there were no punches thrown, there was no aiming, it was a bang-bang play involving two guys being over-aggressive. Common foul on the push, flagrant 2 / ejection for the severity of the contact, ejection for running around like a psycho. Possibly both suspended because it became a social-media spectacle. Seems cut and dry.


Stewart only had one arm on Lebron and the other towards DJ
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#384 » by AmIWrongDude » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:19 pm

Is LeBron soft and couldn't handle the 80's or is he a bully? Cant be both guys lol
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#385 » by Gus McCrae » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:24 pm

Prediction is 1 game for Lebron and 4 games for Stewart.
Intentional hit, unintentional result.

Stewart handled as poorly as possible, bad look for the NBA. Feels like a ticking time bomb.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#386 » by RxOne » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:29 pm

Boardbreaker wrote:
RxOne wrote:98% of the post here are outright ridiculous.

Stewart put two hands on LeBrons body and pushed him off balance (hence the original foul call). Lebron took umbrage and tried to rip through the hold. The combination of the Lebrons rip through and Stewarts push changed the angular momentum of the swing and Stewart caught an accidental elbow to the eye area, followed by the back of Lebrons fist to the jaw.

Was it dirty? Probably, but guys throw elbows all the time, it's just this one produced a nasty cut. So, the level of pearl-clutching here is way overkill.

The people calling it a punch or talking about what Lebron was "aiming" for must have never been in a fight. This wasn't a fight, there were no punches thrown, there was no aiming, it was a bang-bang play involving two guys being over-aggressive. Common foul on the push, flagrant 2 / ejection for the severity of the contact, ejection for running around like a psycho. Possibly both suspended because it became a social-media spectacle. Seems cut and dry.


Stewart only had one arm on Lebron and the other towards DJ
Loose ball foul on Stewart. One hand or two, Lebron didn't like getting illegally pushed off the block.

But what he did was a reckless "get off me" move not a calculated aimed punch, as some are suggesting.

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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#387 » by Liqourish » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:30 pm

RxOne wrote:
Boardbreaker wrote:
RxOne wrote:98% of the post here are outright ridiculous.

Stewart put two hands on LeBrons body and pushed him off balance (hence the original foul call). Lebron took umbrage and tried to rip through the hold. The combination of the Lebrons rip through and Stewarts push changed the angular momentum of the swing and Stewart caught an accidental elbow to the eye area, followed by the back of Lebrons fist to the jaw.

Was it dirty? Probably, but guys throw elbows all the time, it's just this one produced a nasty cut. So, the level of pearl-clutching here is way overkill.

The people calling it a punch or talking about what Lebron was "aiming" for must have never been in a fight. This wasn't a fight, there were no punches thrown, there was no aiming, it was a bang-bang play involving two guys being over-aggressive. Common foul on the push, flagrant 2 / ejection for the severity of the contact, ejection for running around like a psycho. Possibly both suspended because it became a social-media spectacle. Seems cut and dry.


Stewart only had one arm on Lebron and the other towards DJ
Loose ball foul on Stewart. One hand or two, Lebron didn't like getting illegally pushed off the block.

But what he did was a reckless "get off me" move not a calculated aimed punch, as some are suggesting.

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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#388 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:32 pm

Stewart will end up getting five games or something just because he was running around like a madman and that's the last thing the NBA front office is want to see.

LeBron could get one game but wouldn't surprise me if he didn't get anything
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#389 » by Tustari » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:38 pm

RxOne wrote: The combination of the Lebrons rip through and Stewarts push changed the angular momentum of the swing and Stewart caught an accidental elbow to the eye area, followed by the back of Lebrons fist to the jaw.


Brawn was actually trying to fondle Stewart but because Stewart absolutely refused and pushed back it changed the centrifugal force of the initial fondle into an accidental elbow to the corner of Stewart's eye.

The extent LeStan's will go to in order to cover for their hero is highly amusing. I thank all of them in this thread for many priceless moments. But don't let me stop you. PLEASE continue... :P
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#390 » by xinxin » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:43 pm

RxOne wrote:98% of the post here are outright ridiculous.

Stewart put two hands on LeBrons body and pushed him off balance (hence the original foul call). Lebron took umbrage and tried to rip through the hold. The combination of the Lebrons rip through and Stewarts push changed the angular momentum of the swing and Stewart caught an accidental elbow to the eye area, followed by the back of Lebrons fist to the jaw.

Was it dirty? Probably, but guys throw elbows all the time, it's just this one produced a nasty cut. So, the level of pearl-clutching here is way overkill.

The people calling it a punch or talking about what Lebron was "aiming" for must have never been in a fight. This wasn't a fight, there were no punches thrown, there was no aiming, it was a bang-bang play involving two guys being over-aggressive. Common foul on the push, flagrant 2 / ejection for the severity of the contact, ejection for running around like a psycho. Possibly both suspended because it became a social-media spectacle. Seems cut and dry.

That’s the way I see it too


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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#391 » by azcatz11 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:44 pm

I watched the video again and I now agree Stewart was wrong for acting like a maniac. I think what happened is that he felt the blood on his face and flipped out because he initially didn't realize he was even cut.

With that said, Lebron has all time great body control and court presence and was trying to actively punch Stewart in the face. I would give them both 5 games
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#392 » by breezypeezy » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:44 pm

Stewart lost the high ground on this by the unhinged aspect in full view of the World. The NBA will probably make him pay for that image besmirching which is their main flesh in the incident.
LeBron gets a game and fine, neither of which he will even feel. Stewart will feel whatever he gets, the punishment won't be proportional.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#393 » by Edrees » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:44 pm

I can't believe people think Stewart shouldn't also be suspended. Dude tried to go into the locker room and through the hallway into the other entrance to the stadium so he could retaliate. That's some scary **** that needs to be punished.
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Post#394 » by Larry_Russell » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:45 pm

All I know is if 99+% O0F league did what LEbron did they would get a big fine and a suspension of at least 5 games.

Lebron, I am sure will get hardly a slap on the wrist.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#395 » by Liqourish » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:50 pm

Edrees wrote:I can't believe people think Stewart shouldn't also be suspended. Dude tried to go into the locker room and through the hallway into the other entrance to the stadium so he could retaliate. That's some scary **** that needs to be punished.


Announcers on TV last night said security was on alert n case that happened. Nothing was mentioned about Stewart actually doing that.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#396 » by RiRuHoops » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:52 pm

Kingdibs19 wrote:Surprised all conspiracy theorists that think Lebron planned this did not mention that he waited to get 10 points first to keep his nba record streak for 10pt games to continue


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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#397 » by twyzted » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:54 pm

zshawn10 wrote:https://old.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/qzngvj/how_many_dirty_plays_does_lebron_need_to_be/


The comment by the guy who started the reddit thread.

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Post#398 » by Phenomenonsense » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:54 pm

Crazy how everyone that thinks Lebron did it unintentionally also happen to be lakers fans. Nature sure is coincidental at times.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#399 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:02 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:All I know is if 99+% O0F league did what LEbron did they would get a big fine and a suspension of at least 5 games.
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Not at all true. I mean we have Ibaka punching a dude clearly intentionally and getting one game. We have other guys getting split open and the other player getting no games.

I still haven't seen a good angle on Lebron's actions, but based on the limited ones I've seen I'm not sure this deserves even one game and wouldn't even be discussed if the other guy didn't totally lose his mind over it.

Flagrant 2 was the appropriate call on Lebron and thus a corresponding fine. Stewart will have to get a suspension for acting the fool, but it will probably be mitigated by his injuries. A game or two at most.

No need for all this hyperbole or trying to make it all about protecting Lebron. His play simply doesn't remotely warrant 5 games.
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Re: Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex 

Post#400 » by Ugly0598 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:05 pm

Intentional hit, unintentional result

LeBron needs to work on his shot and stop taking out his frustration

James - 2-3 games
Stewart - 5 games

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