Kendrick Perkins controversial comments on Jokic. Update: JJ Redick goes off on Perk about racism

[Dirk]

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Can you share the video where Perkins actually says Jokic is winning because he's white?

He said its because they are European but he listed Dirk, Jokic and Nash (a canadian) while leaving out Giannis. The implication is clear. Even when Reddick called him out he didn't deny he was talking about white people, but that it wasn't a problem because he was "just stating the facts"

Unlike Duke4Life I don't watch the ESPN Talk shows or am active on nba twitter, so I was just wondering if we could have a video.

[SunsLyf3]

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Can you share the video where Perkins actually says Jokic is winning because he's white?

He said its because they are European but he listed Dirk, Jokic and Nash (a canadian) while leaving out Giannis. The implication is clear. Even when Reddick called him out he didn't deny he was talking about white people, but that it wasn't a problem because he was "just stating the facts"

You knew he got exposed when he just started screaming like crazy trying to speak over JJ.

[SunsLyf3]

JJ Reddick is gold. Easily one of the greatest FirstTake moments ever. First round TKO. That clown Perk didn't even know what hit him.

[Duke4life831]

Can you share the video where Perkins actually says Jokic is winning because he's white?

He said its because they are European but he listed Dirk, Jokic and Nash (a canadian) while leaving out Giannis. The implication is clear. Even when Reddick called him out he didn't deny he was talking about white people, but that it wasn't a problem because he was "just stating the facts"

Unlike Duke4Life I don't watch the ESPN Talk shows or am active on nba twitter, so I was just wondering if we could have a video.

[KHRICH]

Can you share the video where Perkins actually says Jokic is winning because he's white?

He said its because they are European but he listed Dirk, Jokic and Nash (a canadian) while leaving out Giannis. The implication is clear. Even when Reddick called him out he didn't deny he was talking about white people, but that it wasn't a problem because he was "just stating the facts"

Unlike Duke4Life I don't watch the ESPN Talk shows or am active on nba twitter, so I was just wondering if we could have a video.

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[OkcSinceSGA]

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Can you share the video where Perkins actually says Jokic is winning because he's white?

He said its because they are European but he listed Dirk, Jokic and Nash (a canadian) while leaving out Giannis. The implication is clear. Even when Reddick called him out he didn't deny he was talking about white people, but that it wasn't a problem because he was "just stating the facts"

You’re meshing Draymond. The quote is in the original post where he implies “they all have one thing in common and I’ll let you figure it out” or whatever. Draymond is the one who said Euro players, hence why I edited the OP to exclude him. It’s pretty clear what Perkins suggested and why JJ is so heated attacking him here. And it’s not because of my thread.

[AbeVigodaLive]

100%, but it's a bad look in my opinion coming from a former NBA player. JJ Redick, Matt Barnes, Barkley, Kenny Smith, Tim Legler all are way more respectable

But none of them mentioned nearly as much as Kendrick Perkins in this thread.

Look, I'm not saying Perkins is legit, or even adequate as an NBA talking head... only that for a newer guy making his way through this business... having people talk about your takes (good or bad) is the name of the game.

To answer your first point about none of the other guys being mentionee in this thread...the thread is about Kendrick Perkins. But I know what you mean about the name of the game is being talked about...BUT that's what is wrong with today's hoop coverage and it starts with the hot take shows and skip Bayless and SAS and KP.

Hoop coverage used to be about the hoops. Now ESPN allowed shows to be about the analysts and their takes.

I'm not advocating for this style of talking heads with troll takes. I openly try to avoid it most of the time.

Only that it gets people talking. And that's good for business (at least in the short term). We'll see if there's a shelf life, but in today's kneejerk reactionary social media landscape... it's probably a longer leash than most would expect.

[OkcSinceSGA]

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[magicman1978]

Perk is nothing more than a clown. Who actually watches these shows? I'm convinced they just pull these click bait clips because that's the only exposure they get these days.

I think they need to stay out there to expose the hypocrisy. Rachel Nichols did almost the EXACT same thing and lost her career. The double standard is wild.

…the second ESPN feels like this is becoming more of a negative distraction than overall positive from clicks and views (aka enough people go to people who are paying for adds on First Take and put pressure on them or something like that), ESPN will shut this down and we wont see Perk talking MVP for the rest of the seaosn.

Yeah, but the point is Perk will still have a job and a career…

Ya but why wouldnt he? Again Perk isnt getting paid to make great analytical points. He is getting paid to get people to click and watch. He's doing exactly that. I dont understand why Perk should lose his job over this. Again he has basically been ESPN's MVP when it comes to the NBA over the last month or so. I honestly think there is a better chance ESPN turns this into Perk and JJ getting their own show than Perk getting fired.

I think this may be one of those "never go full (Please Use More Appropriate Word)" situations. Most of the guys that do this have a consistent schtick and toe the line a little bit where people casual folks don't assume they are completely fools. For example, I don't think casual fans know that Stephen A or Skip don't really understand what they are talking about 90% of the time. But they are consistent in the things they say and can argue/articulate their points to more casual fans. Perk just says something different daily and just throws stuff at a wall to see what sticks and that's why he can't really articulate his stance well or provide logical arguments for them. Once casual fans catch onto it, he may lose his appeal. Or maybe I'm overestimating the casual fan...

[Saints14]

Ya but why wouldnt he? Again Perk isnt getting paid to make great analytical points. He is getting paid to get people to click and watch. He's doing exactly that. I dont understand why Perk should lose his job over this. Again he has basically been ESPN's MVP when it comes to the NBA over the last month or so. I honestly think there is a better chance ESPN turns this into Perk and JJ getting their own show than Perk getting fired.

He should lose his job because people are tired of the double standards, if a white man said people only won awards based on being black their job will be gone within seconds.

You are probably right though in this is what ESPN wants, but they are also hemorrhaging money and have been for a long time. This is not going to help them slightly in the long time.

I do want to be crystal clear with all of this. I dont agree with Perk, I actually think Perk isnt even good at this schtick. I think he's just doing a shotgun approach and anything that gains any kind of traction he just steers into it. But again its not hard to go back just weeks to find him completely contradicting things he says now. But he seems to be loud enough where people just dont care.

I also want to be clear that I do think this is a horrible business strategy. I grew up watching ESPN. I would wake up and immediately put on ESPNews and ESPN, ESPN2, and ESPNews were basically the only channels I watched from like age 8 to 15. I think what theyre doing now is extremely short sided.

But its clear as day this is what they want. Because again ESPN couldve easily squashed this right when it started. The second Perk started to go down this road, ESPN couldve easily just said no more Perk on First Take. But they clearly like it and thats why they keep bringing him back and doing segments that are based solely around what he has said.

When it comes to the double standards, again I dont think people care. Using the Trent Dilfer comparison on if he had said something like this. That most likely wouldve became a distraction for ESPN. Im sure the companies that pay for adds would start getting some public heat. Like it or not, this hasnt yet become a distraction for ESPN. Could it? Ya. Hell Ive noticed ESPN's Youtube page or First Takes twitter page havent uploaded this video yet. They maybe having that discussion right now if it has crossed the line from being beneficial to becoming a distraction. Who knows. But the way ESPN has been handling this up to this point, theyve been loving it.

If I had to guess I would say First Take is more valuable to them for generating social media impressions than as an actual show. I can't imagine enough people actually watch it live, which is mostly a function of how little people are watching cable TV anyways, but the most controversial soundbytes get a ton of traction online

[life_saver]

I've seen Perkins repeatedly use bs argument like how Dirk, Nash and Jokic are the only players since 1990 to win MVP without being top10 in scoring...the reason he is starting from 1990 is simply because Magic won MVPs in 1988, 1989 despite not being top10 in scoring..so it doesn't fit his agenda. Also Dirk was 5th in scoring in 2006-07 when he won MVP and Jokic was 3rd in scoring last year when he won MVP.

[Mickey8]

Perkins is just doing his job. Say something controversial to garner attention and get people talking about it, it obviously worked so he did his job well.

That's cool but if it was the white tv personality claiming something like that about for the black athletes , that person would have been crucified

[Inspektor1312]

He said its because they are European but he listed Dirk, Jokic and Nash (a canadian) while leaving out Giannis. The implication is clear. Even when Reddick called him out he didn't deny he was talking about white people, but that it wasn't a problem because he was "just stating the facts"

Unlike Duke4Life I don't watch the ESPN Talk shows or am active on nba twitter, so I was just wondering if we could have a video.

Just watch first 2 min

Watch on YouTube

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How do american journalists keep pronouncing the first/last name of a B2B MVP wrong lmao Now he's Nikolai
I really don't get it

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[Mickey8]

This has to stop. Now jokic is instructing coach Malone on how to get better stats during half time. Someone needs to stop Jokic.

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If I was in the place of Malone, I would have taken that folding chair and hit Jokic few times with it for not taking the shots on purpose and not dominating Toronto Malone is a weak coach, can't motivate his own players to give their best on the court.

[Dirk]

Perk is nothing more than a clown. Who actually watches these shows? I'm convinced they just pull these click bait clips because that's the only exposure they get these days.

I think they need to stay out there to expose the hypocrisy. Rachel Nichols did almost the EXACT same thing and lost her career. The double standard is wild.

…the second ESPN feels like this is becoming more of a negative distraction than overall positive from clicks and views (aka enough people go to people who are paying for adds on First Take and put pressure on them or something like that), ESPN will shut this down and we wont see Perk talking MVP for the rest of the seaosn.

Yeah, but the point is Perk will still have a job and a career…

Ya but why wouldnt he? Again Perk isnt getting paid to make great analytical points. He is getting paid to get people to click and watch. He's doing exactly that. I dont understand why Perk should lose his job over this. Again he has basically been ESPN's MVP when it comes to the NBA over the last month or so. I honestly think there is a better chance ESPN turns this into Perk and JJ getting their own show than Perk getting fired.

This thing diminishes the efforts that the NBA, the players and partners make in promoting "social justice".

Allowing this guy to freely imply that three players won MVP awards because of the colour of their skin is not a good look and the example will be used by some people.

Example? Check the twitter handle of this account that is using the video now.

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The NBA/ESPN either want to be taken seriously or they don't. To be taken seriously, they need to be consistent. So in this case, I am afraid Perkins should be suspended at the very least. No action, just means that ESPN (and the NBA) are cool with racist remarks.

[Memories]

Porkins needs to go the way of Paul Pierce and just…go away.

How this fat tard got this job and be given SO MUCH exposure is mind boggling. There are at least 98% of retired NBA players you could give a media mic to for whatever Porkins spits out on it, and do it better. Why him of all those people, I will never understand.

That 2008 Celtics team was filled with crappy people wasn’t it? I guess except for Ray Allen maybe?

[Marvin Martian]

Perkins is a complete moron, I can't believe he is still employed at this point. He is the absolute worst "analyst" I've ever seen. All he does is repeat cliche nonsense or stupid hot takes for views and doesn't even actually offer any real insight or opinions, just mindless drivel. JJ is a clown also but he is totally right here. Trying to bring race into the discussion of MVP is downright absurd and Perkins looks like a complete tool trying to defend his ridiculous position. C'mon Perk, we ALL know what you were implying. Him pretending otherwise is straight BS. And adding "carry the hell on..." to everything he says makes it even more cringey. He was also a garbageman roleplayer with limited talent, why is he even on TV to begin with? Who values his opinion??

Wrong. Perkins was just garbage. He is the first and only player to have a negative PER in the playoffs.

[G_K_F]

I think they need to stay out there to expose the hypocrisy. Rachel Nichols did almost the EXACT same thing and lost her career. The double standard is wild.


Yeah, but the point is Perk will still have a job and a career…

Ya but why wouldnt he? Again Perk isnt getting paid to make great analytical points. He is getting paid to get people to click and watch. He's doing exactly that. I dont understand why Perk should lose his job over this. Again he has basically been ESPN's MVP when it comes to the NBA over the last month or so. I honestly think there is a better chance ESPN turns this into Perk and JJ getting their own show than Perk getting fired.

This thing diminishes the efforts that the NBA, the players and partners make in promoting "social justice".

Allowing this guy to freely imply that three players won MVP awards because of the colour of their skin is not a good look and the example will be used by some people.

Example? Check the twitter handle of this account that is using the video now.

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The NBA/ESPN either want to be taken seriously or they don't. To be taken seriously, they need to be consistent. So in this case, I am afraid Perkins should be suspended at the very least. No action, just means that ESPN (and the NBA) are cool with racist remarks.

ESPN (and the mass media) have selective outrage.

The same mass outrage doesn't exist for all racism.

[Ice Trae]

I laughed so hard when Perk got progressively louder with his “iTs ThE fAcTs” BS. Good on JJ for calling out this dumbass