NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24 (continued)

[Cubbies2120]

"yOu dOn'T wAtCh aNy gAmEs"

[bigboi]

"yOu dOn'T wAtCh aNy gAmEs"

Posting a Nuggets game, shows what exactly? You sound silly. You legit have no argument other than posting useless stats.

[Cubbies2120]

"yOu dOn'T wAtCh aNy gAmEs"

Posting a Nuggets game, shows what exactly? You sound silly. You legit have no argument other than posting useless stats.

It seems like you're triggered.

Called you out on peddling false information such as:
1. Claimed that Giannis has a weaker supporting cast (unequivocally FALSE)
2. I don't watch games (FALSE - you now altered your argument after seeing what I did a couple nights ago )
3. Claimed you can bring up advanced stats to support your cause (FALSE - you can't or you would)

The mods just made fun of your eye test arguments.

[AleksandarN]

This thread is just stan wars. No objective analysis.

Coming from you I am surprised you even know the word “ analysis “

Clueless Jokic stan being clueless as per usual

Nice try. Jokic Stan? Lol. Clueless? Project much. What analysis have you ever done on this board. You are easy work. I expect you to disappear again. Because you know everytime you get called out for your nonsense you disappear

[dygaction]

How one night of great performance can sway the voting. Giannis is now above Luka at #2. Embiid needs a night like this.

[Woodsanity]

Pretty much the only reason the Bucks aren't legit terrible has been Giannis going superman

Pretty much which is why the dude is MVP. The team would pretty much be Dame Blazers without Giannis. I’ve been saying that dude might average 35+ this season since the supporting cast is so weak. And folks had the nerve to say bucks have a better cast than Nugs. Absurdd

Considering Dame Blazers was a 50+ win team before this is not the flex you think it is but as expected from a silly casual fan who doesn't even watch games.

[eyeatoma]

Dude had 64 and the team record for a team that included one of the goat candidates in KAJ-

Giannis gives away 20k sneakers to random fans and all he asking for is memorabilia that he made valuable and you hating on that?

This is low bro - be better lol

Don’t let your love of Embiid blind you to the fact that Giannis can’t have loser energy when dude has already climbed Mount Olympus and looked down on everyone… including Embiid- name the award Giannis doesn’t have? How can a man with every nba award be a loser ?

Stop bro

His losing speech was cringe. That ladder **** was not a good look.

This was hilarious, I'd be embarrassed if I was him.

I think he's a great player and he's likeable but there have been a few things recently that have been off putting.

Today's incident definitely reeked of pettiness and loser energy. Running after someone into the tunnel? What are you in elementary school?

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More loser energy than this ?


lol - j/k

I'd say thats a low blow man. Not in good taste.

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[bigboi]

Pretty much the only reason the Bucks aren't legit terrible has been Giannis going superman

Pretty much which is why the dude is MVP. The team would pretty much be Dame Blazers without Giannis. I’ve been saying that dude might average 35+ this season since the supporting cast is so weak. And folks had the nerve to say bucks have a better cast than Nugs. Absurdd

Considering Dame Blazers was a 50+ win team before this is not the flex you think it is but as expected from a silly casual fan who doesn't even watch games.

Oh really?

2019-20: 35-39
2020-2021: 42-30
2021-2022: 27-55
2022-2023: 33-49

Cope some more. Another casual that doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

[Dirk]

Pretty much which is why the dude is MVP. The team would pretty much be Dame Blazers without Giannis. I’ve been saying that dude might average 35+ this season since the supporting cast is so weak. And folks had the nerve to say bucks have a better cast than Nugs. Absurdd

Considering Dame Blazers was a 50+ win team before this is not the flex you think it is but as expected from a silly casual fan who doesn't even watch games.

Oh really?

2019-20: 35-39
2020-2021: 42-30
2021-2022: 27-55
2022-2023: 33-49

Cope some more. Another casual that doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

Can you stop calling other users "stans" or "casuals"?

[bigboi]

Considering Dame Blazers was a 50+ win team before this is not the flex you think it is but as expected from a silly casual fan who doesn't even watch games.

Oh really?

2019-20: 35-39
2020-2021: 42-30
2021-2022: 27-55
2022-2023: 33-49

Cope some more. Another casual that doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

Can you stop calling other users "stans" or "casuals"?

No because 1. That’s not against the rules and 2. He called me a casual and I’ve had others call me casual or troll. So unless you’re addressing everyone fairly then I truly don’t want to hear it. This thread has been people pushing out stats with 0 context, admitting to clearly not watching games while having the highest opinions, and people just saying outlandish stuff: (eg: Jokic is the greatest offensive unit ever, Jokic is better at running an offense than Magic Johnson). It’s getting silly at this point.

[iggymcfrack]

Pretty much the only reason the Bucks aren't legit terrible has been Giannis going superman

Pretty much which is why the dude is MVP. The team would pretty much be Dame Blazers without Giannis. I’ve been saying that dude might average 35+ this season since the supporting cast is so weak. And folks had the nerve to say bucks have a better cast than Nugs. Absurdd

Bucks with Giannis on floor this season: +6.7 point differential
Nuggets with Jokic on floor this season: +9.6 point differential

Bucks with Giannis on bench this season: -0.6 point differential
Nuggets with Jokic on bench this season: -11.4 point differential

Basically, the Bucks without Giannis are closer to being as good as the Bucks with Giannis than they are to being as bad as the Nuggets without Jokic. Denver's been a 100% carry job this season. They kinda figured out how to have Murray run a decent bench unit during the playoffs last year, but he's missed over half the season and he hasn't come close to developing any kind of rhythm when he's been in the lineup. Here's each teams top 6 players by BPM who are averaging at least 10 MPG:

Nuggets
Jokic 14.1
Murray 2.7 (missed over half the season)
Jackson 0.1
Porter 0.0
Gordon -0.7
Braun -1.8

Bucks
Giannis 7.6
Lillard 2.0
Lopez 2.0
Crowder 1.1 (missed over half the season)
Middleton 0.4
Beasley 0.1

[iggymcfrack]

SGA not getting anywhere near enough MVP love right now. Saw this on Reddit and thought I’d copy/paste:

Shai not only leads the league in steals, he also passes the eye test. He also has the second most deflections in the league, the most blocks among guards, the most loose balls recovered, the second most shots contested among guards, and he holds the players he guards to a 40.3% shooting percentage, second best in the NBA. Shai is also second in the NBA in estimated defensive plus minus and defensive box plus/minus, and fourth in defensive win shares, all stats designed to comprehensively measure defense.

This is all while having pretty much identical offensive stats to KD.

[bisme37]

Oh really?

2019-20: 35-39
2020-2021: 42-30
2021-2022: 27-55
2022-2023: 33-49

Cope some more. Another casual that doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

Can you stop calling other users "stans" or "casuals"?

No because 1. That’s not against the rules and 2. He called me a casual and I’ve had others call me casual or troll. So unless you’re addressing everyone fairly then I truly don’t want to hear it. This thread has been people pushing out stats with 0 context, admitting to clearly not watching games while having the highest opinions, and people just saying outlandish stuff: (eg: Jokic is the greatest offensive unit ever, Jokic is better at running an offense than Magic Johnson). It’s getting silly at this point.

Insulting other posters is indeed against the rules. Kinda seems like a global moderator would be aware of such things lol.

Calling someone a stan or troll or casual is a personal attack when you use those words as an insult. I mean were you saying it to be nice? No, you're insulting the other poster's credibility.

It's not a major violation compared to some other stuff we see, and we don't usually give strikes for it. Which is why Dirk politely asked you to stop rather than giving you a strike.

But it's not allowed, so if someone else calls you those things please hit the report button and we'll take a look. The fact that someone else violated the rules in the past doesn't make it not a violation. So again, please stop. Thx.

[Wolfgang630]

It’s crazy Tatum doesn’t get the talk anymore.

[eyeatoma]

It’s crazy Tatum doesn’t get the talk anymore.

He's not in the same tier.

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[Kurtz]

It’s crazy Tatum doesn’t get the talk anymore.

Too many chefs in Boston's kitchen.

[Chokic]

How one night of great performance can sway the voting. Giannis is now above Luka at #2. Embiid needs a night like this.

Embiid doesn't need a night like that he's leading the mvp race.

[Cubbies2120]

Oh really?

2019-20: 35-39
2020-2021: 42-30
2021-2022: 27-55
2022-2023: 33-49

Cope some more. Another casual that doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

Can you stop calling other users "stans" or "casuals"?

No because 1. That’s not against the rules and 2. He called me a casual and I’ve had others call me casual or troll. So unless you’re addressing everyone fairly then I truly don’t want to hear it. This thread has been people pushing out stats with 0 context, admitting to clearly not watching games while having the highest opinions, and people just saying outlandish stuff: (eg: Jokic is the greatest offensive unit ever, Jokic is better at running an offense than Magic Johnson). It’s getting silly at this point.

Out of curiosity who in this thread has “admitted to not watching games” or pushing out stats with 0 context? I feel like both were shots at me (since you claimed I don’t watch games until I posted some photos + said you could provide stats to counter mine but never did). I had said earlier you speak so confidently for someone who’s wrong and then you made my point for me by telling a moderator what is and isn’t breaking the rules only to be proven wrong.

[JustBuzzin]

If JA comes back and leads the Grizz to a top 6 seed does he enter the MVP conversation?

[CobraCommander]

His losing speech was cringe. That ladder **** was not a good look.

This was hilarious, I'd be embarrassed if I was him.

I think he's a great player and he's likeable but there have been a few things recently that have been off putting.

Today's incident definitely reeked of pettiness and loser energy. Running after someone into the tunnel? What are you in elementary school?

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More loser energy than this ?


lol - j/k

I'd say thats a low blow man. Not in good taste.

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You right - Giannis running down the tunnel to get the game ball that he made valuable by dropping 6 freaking 4 is more loser energy than getting bounced, crying about it (which I respect) then the next 2 years losing and swearing you don’t care anymore and that there is no expectations-

You either the man or you not