Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic

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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#381 » by VFX » Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:55 pm

azcatz11 wrote:Honestly, stuff like this makes the regular season interesting. He is non stop entertainment. Dirty as hell but it's fun watching him play. A throwback of sorts.

I'm fine with no suspension.


Would you say this if it was Grayson Allen?
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#382 » by Franco » Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:56 pm

Big J wrote:I just think the fact that it’s plausible that this was accidental should make the suspension a minor one. If he’d squared him up and thrown a haymaker that would be a different story.


It happens way too often with him to be given the benefit of the doubt. The first, second and third times you might convince people it was an accident, but the 48th it gets pretty **** hard to do it.
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#383 » by DuckIII » Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:56 pm

Trey24 wrote:I don't believe that he was just "selling the foul" and "didn't mean to hit him" when he squared up to Nurk and looked him in the eyes before connecting.



No one believes that, including Draymond and anyone who says they do believe it.
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#384 » by BrianFitz » Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:56 pm

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___Rand___ wrote:I am just tired of seeing this shyt from this guy. Fcuk r/nba mods for banning me for calling him out for what he is - a friggin thug. Fcuk reddit. Fcuk warriors fans and anyone else who defend him and his behavior. Fcuk Kerr for enabling him. Fcuk Steph too for enabling him. I lose more and more respect for Kerr and Steph each and every time this guy does this and they enable him. Their reputation and their standing gets a bit more shyt-stained every time they stand for and by this moron. This is NOT basketball.

You will also be banned here if you continue to use racially charged language and evade the language filter.
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How is this racially charged language? This seems like mod got offended by sentiment more than actually what was the issue with the evading the language filter.


It's not even remotely "racially charged" ... but they will try to tell you that the word "thug" has some extra kind of meaning. Lunacy.
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#385 » by JN61 » Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:57 pm

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Why is the NBA responsible for teaching a grownass professional man how to behave? Or even read the rule book

NBA has power to ban players from playing in their league. Giving these soft penalties which green always comes back from and never takes the responsibility is clear sign NBA doesn't do proper work with his case. This guy is certified lunatic and he is not a person I would want to represent my brand as NBA. Like I said with previous incident 27 games MINIMUM with NO PAY and THE BIGGEST FINE possible should have been the penalty.
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#386 » by Cavsfansince84 » Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:58 pm

Iwasawitness wrote:
Huh? Horace made four all defensive teams.


I was wrong going off of memory but the point I made regarding him and Draymond still stands 100%.
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Post#387 » by whitehops » Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:59 pm

at this point the suspension should not only be for the violent act but also conduct detrimental to the league.
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#388 » by infinite11285 » Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:59 pm

JN61 wrote:
___Rand___ wrote:I am just tired of seeing this shyt from this guy. Fcuk r/nba mods for banning me for calling him out for what he is - a friggin thug. Fcuk reddit. Fcuk warriors fans and anyone else who defend him and his behavior. Fcuk Kerr for enabling him. Fcuk Steph too for enabling him. I lose more and more respect for Kerr and Steph each and every time this guy does this and they enable him. Their reputation and their standing gets a bit more shyt-stained every time they stand for and by this moron. This is NOT basketball.

You will also be banned here if you continue to use racially charged language and evade the language filter.
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How is this racially charged language? This seems like mod got offended by sentiment more than actually what was the issue with the evading the language filter.


BrianFitz wrote:It's not even remotely "racially charged" ... but they will try to tell you that the word "thug" has some extra kind of meaning. Lunacy.


Google why referring to a black man as a thug is racially charged, especially in its modern-day context when used to demonize and criminalize black men. Mods are tasked with ensuring conversation remains cordial and on topic, and using charged language will not be conducive to a productive discussion. I'm not going back and forth about this.
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Post#389 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:00 pm

Dacost wrote:Should be the same as JA the league can not be biased.

25 games.

I almost get the sense that a lot of people are using the leniency on Draymond as an excuse for Ja, like Ja got screwed. No matter what DG gets, Ja deserved that suspension on his own merit. It is a totally different situation that cannot be compared. Ja was a PR nightmare for the league and had escalating gun issues. If the Pacers bus story is true, he is lucky he isn't already banned from the league.
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#390 » by Hans1984 » Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:01 pm

One more strike and he should be out of the league.
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Post#391 » by ___Rand___ » Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:02 pm

BrianFitz wrote:
JN61 wrote:
___Rand___ wrote:I am just tired of seeing this shyt from this guy. Fcuk r/nba mods for banning me for calling him out for what he is - a friggin thug. Fcuk reddit. Fcuk warriors fans and anyone else who defend him and his behavior. Fcuk Kerr for enabling him. Fcuk Steph too for enabling him. I lose more and more respect for Kerr and Steph each and every time this guy does this and they enable him. Their reputation and their standing gets a bit more shyt-stained every time they stand for and by this moron. This is NOT basketball.

You will also be banned here if you continue to use racially charged language and evade the language filter.
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How is this racially charged language? This seems like mod got offended by sentiment more than actually what was the issue with the evading the language filter.


It's not even remotely "racially charged" ... but they will try to tell you that the word "thug" has some extra kind of meaning. Lunacy.



Definition of Thug per google:

thug
/THəɡ/
noun
noun: thug; plural noun: thugs; noun: Thug; plural noun: Thugs
1.
a violent, aggressive person, especially one who is a criminal.
"he was attacked by a gang of thugs"

2.
HISTORICAL
a member of a group or organization of robbers and assassins in India who waylaid and strangled their victims, usually travelers, and stole their belongings. They were suppressed by the British in the 1830s.
Origin

early 19th century (in thug (sense 2)): from Hindi ṭhag ‘swindler, thief’, based on Sanskrit sthagati ‘he covers or conceals’. thug (sense 1) arose in the mid 19th century.


This is a word historically associated and rooted in India. This is NOT used in the context of African-Americans. I am a visible minority who's experienced racial discrimination. I ain't putting down his RACE.
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Post#392 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:03 pm

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azcatz11 wrote:Honestly, stuff like this makes the regular season interesting. He is non stop entertainment. Dirty as hell but it's fun watching him play. A throwback of sorts.

I'm fine with no suspension.


Would you say this if it was Grayson Allen?

TBF Grayson just has such an unlikeable/punchable face that we are all biased
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#393 » by ___Rand___ » Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:04 pm

infinite11285 wrote:
JN61 wrote:
___Rand___ wrote:I am just tired of seeing this shyt from this guy. Fcuk r/nba mods for banning me for calling him out for what he is - a friggin thug. Fcuk reddit. Fcuk warriors fans and anyone else who defend him and his behavior. Fcuk Kerr for enabling him. Fcuk Steph too for enabling him. I lose more and more respect for Kerr and Steph each and every time this guy does this and they enable him. Their reputation and their standing gets a bit more shyt-stained every time they stand for and by this moron. This is NOT basketball.

You will also be banned here if you continue to use racially charged language and evade the language filter.
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How is this racially charged language? This seems like mod got offended by sentiment more than actually what was the issue with the evading the language filter.


BrianFitz wrote:It's not even remotely "racially charged" ... but they will try to tell you that the word "thug" has some extra kind of meaning. Lunacy.


Google why referring to a black man as a thug is racially charged, especially in its modern-day context when used to demonize and criminalize black men. Mods are tasked with ensuring conversation remains cordial and on topic, and using charged language will not be conducive to a productive discussion. I'm not going back-and-forth about this.


Look, where I am from - Canada - we don't use "thug" to refer to whatever you're thinking. This is ENGLISH LANGUAGE. This is a GLOBAL FORUM. Is it not? We use global definitions. You are using what is contextually correct FOR YOU locally.

I'm going to say it again so you know - I am a visible minority, I have experienced racial discrimination all my life, and I don't ever want anyone else to be treated like that. That's MY context.
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#394 » by Slim Charlez » Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:06 pm

Watch him get a fine and a slap on the wrist while Ja misses half a season for no real reason.
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Post#395 » by jazzfan1971 » Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:06 pm



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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#396 » by Pharmcat » Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:07 pm

___Rand___ wrote:
BrianFitz wrote:
JN61 wrote:How is this racially charged language? This seems like mod got offended by sentiment more than actually what was the issue with the evading the language filter.


It's not even remotely "racially charged" ... but they will try to tell you that the word "thug" has some extra kind of meaning. Lunacy.



Definition of Thug per google:

thug
/THəɡ/
noun
noun: thug; plural noun: thugs; noun: Thug; plural noun: Thugs
1.
a violent, aggressive person, especially one who is a criminal.
"he was attacked by a gang of thugs"

2.
HISTORICAL
a member of a group or organization of robbers and assassins in India who waylaid and strangled their victims, usually travelers, and stole their belongings. They were suppressed by the British in the 1830s.
Origin

early 19th century (in thug (sense 2)): from Hindi ṭhag ‘swindler, thief’, based on Sanskrit sthagati ‘he covers or conceals’. thug (sense 1) arose in the mid 19th century.


This is a word historically associated and rooted in India. This is NOT used in the context of African-Americans. I am a visible minority who's experienced racial discrimination. I ain't putting down his RACE.


A Woman , black guy, white guy all agree it’s racially charged, 3.00-3.20.

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Post#397 » by Miami_Lux » Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:07 pm

Big J wrote:I just think the fact that it’s plausible that this was accidental should make the suspension a minor one. If he’d squared him up and thrown a haymaker that would be a different story.


Draymond no longer gets the benefit of the doubt. Rightfully so. Punishment should reflect his history of acting out. Boy cried wolf no longer works here…
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Re: Draymond Green just knocked the **** out of Nurkic 

Post#398 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:08 pm

The Warriors won't do anything about it except pat him on the back and call it a misunderstanding, the NBA won't do anything about it other than a slap on the wrist.

At the point where another team/player needs to do something about it.
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Post#399 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:08 pm

infinite11285 wrote:
JN61 wrote:
___Rand___ wrote:I am just tired of seeing this shyt from this guy. Fcuk r/nba mods for banning me for calling him out for what he is - a friggin thug. Fcuk reddit. Fcuk warriors fans and anyone else who defend him and his behavior. Fcuk Kerr for enabling him. Fcuk Steph too for enabling him. I lose more and more respect for Kerr and Steph each and every time this guy does this and they enable him. Their reputation and their standing gets a bit more shyt-stained every time they stand for and by this moron. This is NOT basketball.

You will also be banned here if you continue to use racially charged language and evade the language filter.
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How is this racially charged language? This seems like mod got offended by sentiment more than actually what was the issue with the evading the language filter.


BrianFitz wrote:It's not even remotely "racially charged" ... but they will try to tell you that the word "thug" has some extra kind of meaning. Lunacy.


Google why referring to a black man as a thug is racially charged, especially in its modern-day context when used to demonize and criminalize black men. Mods are tasked with ensuring conversation remains cordial and on topic, and using charged language will not be conducive to a productive discussion. I'm not going back and forth about this.

There's a difference of pointing out to use a different word to remove any perceived racially charged language Vs threatening to ban someone for insinuating it was racially charged.

Thug - "a violent, aggressive person, especially one who is a criminal." Green has assaulted multiple players in public. I think the core definition fits. I think you are right saying we should use better words but insinuating someone is racist just because others use the word inappropriately isnt fair IMHO
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Post#400 » by Ckay » Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:10 pm

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MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Wonder if Kerr is still waiting to see the play?
He literally said in the press conference that he had not seen the play

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You don't understand he did see the play but he needed permission to speak about it from Dray first.

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