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Re: The*BIGGEST* bust from last season's free agency market

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:25 pm
by Throwback24
Hedo Turkoglu, he'll only get worse from here.

Re: The*BIGGEST* bust from last season's free agency market

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:40 pm
by BossHoggin
Shaq, Carter, and Artest. Their teams barely made the playoffs.

Re: The*BIGGEST* bust from last season's free agency market

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:23 pm
by MagicMadness
Definitely Turkoglu.

The media, and a lot of outsiders, thought the Magic made a bad move by not re-signing Hedo to the 5yr/50mil contract he wanted. They thought the Magic would be worse off this season by bringing in zillion-time All-Star Vince Carter instead.

Yeah, so...it HAS to be Hedo.

Re: The*BIGGEST* bust from last season's free agency market

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:21 pm
by and one
Sheed. He's just bad.

Re: The*BIGGEST* bust from last season's free agency market

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:25 pm
by loserX
Donald Kaufman wrote:No love for RJ? He sucked big time with us this year.


Wasn't a free agent.

Re: The*BIGGEST* bust from last season's free agency market

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:32 pm
by peja_the_legend
Chris Wilcox,did he even play this year?

Guess he'll discover the beutiful places of Europe from next season.

Re: The*BIGGEST* bust from last season's free agency market

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:35 pm
by GameOver25
definitely "wRAPped with Ball"

Re: The*BIGGEST* bust from last season's free agency market

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:48 pm
by ilikecb4
i think ron artest has been worse than ariza


on offense he stinks, wat's his fg%? and true shooting percentage...

everytime i see boxscore he's like 2-10 from field....

and he's chucking up a lot of 3s


his defense has not been as good as before its still really solid



if ron artest doesnt pick it up Lakers could lose at some point

Re: The*BIGGEST* bust from last season's free agency market

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:55 pm
by hype_2004
"Turkey butter Ball"

Re: The*BIGGEST* bust from last season's free agency market

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:58 pm
by Liqourish
peja_the_legend wrote:Chris Wilcox,did he even play this year?

Guess he'll discover the beutiful places of Europe from next season.


He's got a player option to stay with the Pistons nest season. And no one expected him to be some great signing to begin with. Pistons signed him for depth with the awful big rotation they knew they were entering the season with.

Re: The*BIGGEST* bust from last season's free agency market

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:16 pm
by LApwnd
1. Turk
2. Gordon (not cause he sucks but #'s are down and didn't make the same impact he did in Chi)

Re: The*BIGGEST* bust from last season's free agency market

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:37 pm
by DanTown8587
Busts
1. Ben Gordon
2. Hedo Turkoglu
3. Charlie Villaneuva
4. Brandon Bass (more on the Magic than Bass)

Re: The*BIGGEST* bust from last season's free agency market

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:45 pm
by OzzyAZ
Gordon is nowhere near Turkoglu. Gordon was oft-injured and benched to showcase Hamilton, whereas Turk just **** all over the team and fans by not even bothering to show up this season.

Re: The*BIGGEST* bust from last season's free agency market

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:47 pm
by BB Chrome
I vote RJ due to expectations created on player. Looked great, maybe stellar at the time but on the floor, it has barely been tolerable. Spurs fans were really teased on this one. Another example of what looks good on paper, doesn't often look good on the court.

Spurs would take it back in an instant if they could, but playoff performance forgives all.

Re: The*BIGGEST* bust from last season's free agency market

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:55 pm
by illiance
Rasheed Wallace
Ramon Sessions
Jannero Pargo

Re: The*BIGGEST* bust from last season's free agency market

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:01 pm
by Edrees
I can answer this question with a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBi6GYDPUxg

Re: The*BIGGEST* bust from last season's free agency market

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:46 pm
by Tension
DanTown8587 wrote:Busts
1. Ben Gordon
2. Hedo Turkoglu
3. Charlie Villaneuva
4. Brandon Bass (more on the Magic than Bass)


bust implies that the player was supposed to be a good player. It was quite established that Bass is just a tough role player and can't really do much else besides rebound and be physical down low. Magic just overpaid him.

Re: The*BIGGEST* bust from last season's free agency market

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:53 pm
by xxRoyalexx
Charlie V, Ben Gordon and Hedo Turkoglu are all equally bad. Your pick.

Re: The*BIGGEST* bust from last season's free agency market

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:11 pm
by BobbyLight
To the people listing RJ, he wasn't a free agent. He was traded.

Hedo is the obvious answer. When I heard what they signed him for all I could wonder is why. If Bosh bolts that team is dead in the water with bloated contracts for Hedo, Bargs and Calderno. That's a 30 win team if they get lucky.

The Pistons duo is the next worst. Signing Gordon in an of it self wasn't that bad but to pair him with CV and waste all of your cap space for the next 5 years was just so stupid. I think the brains behind the operation came to be the GM on my team, thank God.

Next is Sheed. Just read Bill Simmon's column on him, it nails Sheed for exactly what he is.

Re: The*BIGGEST* bust from last season's free agency market

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:09 pm
by microfib4thewin
ilikecb4 wrote:i think ron artest has been worse than ariza


on offense he stinks, wat's his fg%? and true shooting percentage...

everytime i see boxscore he's like 2-10 from field....

and he's chucking up a lot of 3s


his defense has not been as good as before its still really solid



if ron artest doesnt pick it up Lakers could lose at some point


I was one of the few skeptics when they signed Ron, but he has worked out for us greatly. The problem is the offense hasn't ran as smoothly as last year, and Ron often times have to bail the team out with desperate 3s. Just a comparison between last year and this year:

Kobe 09 - 46.7%, 10 - 45.6%
Gasol 09 - 56.7%, 10 - 53.6%
Odom 09 - 49.2%, 10 - 46.3%
Bynum 09 - 56.0%, 10 - 57.0%
Lakers 3 PT shooting 09 - 36.1%, 10 - 34.1%

Outside of Bynum who has been more healthy this year everyone took a dip in their shooting. Spacing has been fubared with the Gasol/Bynum experiment, Fisher is washed up, Sasha and Farmar can't hit a 3 with consistency anymore. The SF spot is the only position where this team has improved from last year.