MVP Derrick Rose, I am disappoint.

[SSUBluesman]

All the talk about Rose leading the Bulls to wins and ****, I just don't see it. Bulls would be hella better off right now if he concentrated more on making plays instead of getting shots off. He seems way to concerned with making the shot himself and jacking threes right now.

Kind of hard to see when you don't actually watch the games.

This is what more intelligent people have been saying all season long. Tom Thibodeu and team defense had much more to do with their wins than Rose.

No, the people who have done everything they can to downplay Rose have been saying this. Objective and rational people have been saying all season long that the team defense and "Just do it Rose" offense work in tandem with one another and help make the other so successful.

That all the credit goes to Thibs and all the blame goes to Rose pretty much sums up how silly all of this is.

[236]

Too many holes in his game for him to be an efficient offensive player against playoff level defense. Really needs to work on that jumper this summer.

These games have also established what most of us have believed all along - that Chicago wins with their #1 defense and #1 rebounding first, everything else comes second. They can handle a poor night from their star player better than almost any other team in the league. His VALUE to his team is nowhere close to what the media and his fanboys make it out to be. That's the reason the online-backlash against him is so massive. Nobody can stand an overrated player that's over-hyped beyond belief.

[Godzilla039]

I've been disturbed with his play for the majority of the second half of the season. His FG % took a dive because he'd start out games looking to shoot the three. Even while he was immersed in a slump he continued to press the issue while not even trying to get in an offensive rhythm. He played like he wasn't even aware that the shot wasn't falling. It was extremely frustrating watching my favorite player dance behind the three point line, essentially being baited into that shot and morphing into an inefficient player. He went from a high 40% shooting average with a deadly mid range game to

I have other issues with Rose but I've beat up on him enough tonight. smh

[daniel3]

Rose's problem is he's sort of not using his penetration to create for others as much as he did before. He also seems more prone to taking the open 3s and jumpers that the Pacers are giving him rather than being adept at fact he is an average at best shooter and would be better off just finding a way to make the play for others. While other top tier playmakers have upped their assists, his has shrunken considerably since playoffs started.

Sort of glad he is MVP and hope ESPN runs a special on how great he is and make a parade for him. Hope he never wises up.

[Tazo]

Too many holes in his game for him to be an efficient offensive player against playoff level defense. Really needs to work on that jumper this summer.

The biggest problem is, he HAS a jumper already, just not a 3 pt one. The longer the season has gone on the more he's been opting for 3s instead of the midrange 2s he's so much better at.

[orangeparka]

All the talk about Rose leading the Bulls to wins and ****, I just don't see it. Bulls would be hella better off right now if he concentrated more on making plays instead of getting shots off. He seems way to concerned with making the shot himself and jacking threes right now.

Kind of hard to see when you don't actually watch the games.

This is what more intelligent people have been saying all season long. Tom Thibodeu and team defense had much more to do with their wins than Rose.

No, the people who have done everything they can to downplay Rose have been saying this. Objective and rational people have been saying all season long that the team defense and "Just do it Rose" offense work in tandem with one another and help make the other so successful.

That all the credit goes to Thibs and all the blame goes to Rose pretty much sums up how silly all of this is.

I have, and it's hard not to see that he's definitely playing with much poorer decision making than in the regular season.

[RoseAboveDurant]

wtf's up with Boozer? Is he still not 100% healthy or something?

He was playing well until he had an ankle injury and I don't know if his ankle is still bothering him or if its the fact that him and Noah haven't had much time together.

Noah finally looked good this game after sucking it up recently so hopefully Boozer will turn things around as well.

[mepatrick]

according to the last thread about rose.. he couldn't be defended, good shooter, good passer and super clutch.

[nitric0]

Talk about overreacting to a few games. Continue on though

[Benny Gold]

It'll be funny to see Lebron and Wade lock him up in the ECF's.(or the Celtics for that matter)

[Atmanne]

Paul George & Dahntay Jones. Thats why he isn't playing up to MVP standards.

I kinda agree with this. Paul George is a relatively unique type of defender.

That said, Rose still had two phenomenal games to go along with his two poor ones. People put way too much stock in first round performances. This is a marathon, not a sprint. He can play like utter crap until the middle of May and still come away a hero as long as he finishes strong.

[SolidSnake008]

As long as you win the game nothing else matters in the big picture but i can see how someone could parallel Rose's play with Lebron of circa 2009....Lebron on that team did EVERYTHING but coach and it looks like Rose is trying to do too much at times...He is relied on to make almost every play and it's been like that all season for the bulls....could he be hitting a wall right now individually? Lebron that year in the playoffs played himself to exhaustion and game 3 Rose's jumper didn't have any leg in it classic sign of fatigue but i could be wrong

[236]

As long as you win the game nothing else matters in the big picture but i can see how someone could parallel Rose's play with Lebron of circa 2009....

The only similarities between '09 LeBron and Rose is that they were both the best players on their team. There's no comparison beyond that. LeBron averaged 35/9/7/51%/37 PER that postseason.

[SolidSnake008]

As long as you win the game nothing else matters in the big picture but i can see how someone could parallel Rose's play with Lebron of circa 2009....

The only similarities between '09 LeBron and Rose is that they were both the best players on their team. There's no comparison beyond that. LeBron averaged 35/9/7/51%/37 PER that postseason.

you didn't get the jist of what i was trying to say.......The point i was trying to get across was they both did everything for their teams and at times too much

[SSUBluesman]

All the talk about Rose leading the Bulls to wins and ****, I just don't see it. Bulls would be hella better off right now if he concentrated more on making plays instead of getting shots off. He seems way to concerned with making the shot himself and jacking threes right now.

Kind of hard to see when you don't actually watch the games.

This is what more intelligent people have been saying all season long. Tom Thibodeu and team defense had much more to do with their wins than Rose.

No, the people who have done everything they can to downplay Rose have been saying this. Objective and rational people have been saying all season long that the team defense and "Just do it Rose" offense work in tandem with one another and help make the other so successful.

That all the credit goes to Thibs and all the blame goes to Rose pretty much sums up how silly all of this is.

I have, and it's hard not to see that he's definitely playing with much poorer decision making than in the regular season.

The Bulls were a botched final possession (not Rose's fault, btw) away from a sweep with their offensive gameplan (aside from Korver) being entirely in Rose's hands. But no though, he's hurting the team and needs to concern himself with making sure Bogans gets his. That you express nonsense such as this while wrapping it in numbers leads me to believe that you haven't been watching the games or, if you have, have not been paying attention.

[Ruhiel]

It'll be funny to see Lebron and Wade lock him up in the ECF's.(or the Celtics for that matter)

If Wade or Lebron are guarding Rose then the Heat better have Jones on the other wing bcuz Miller is playing like dodoo.

[Tazo]

according to the last thread about rose.. he couldn't be defended, good shooter, good passer and super clutch.

He has been clutch though. I don't see how this is disputed. It's the game leading up to crunchtime he's been disappointing in.

[34_fifty]

Yea he's not having a great series so far, he's pretty inefficient from the field but he's getting to the line and seems to be pretty clutch late in the game.

Never thought Rose was an MVP candidate, his team's defense was probably like 70-80 percent of the reason why they won so many games.

[dynasty_maker]

He has been a bit cold from the field the last two games, but he is still playing at a very high level and making huge plays when it counts most. I don't know how anyone who has actually watched the games could be disappointed. Bulls are up 3-1 and Rose has been a huge part of it

[SSUBluesman]

Yea he's not having a great series so far, he's pretty inefficient from the field but he's getting to the line and seems to be pretty clutch late in the game.

Never thought Rose was an MVP candidate, his team's defense was probably like 70-80 percent of the reason why they won so many games.

Because tough-minded defensive teams with no offensive structure or system are incredibly successful, right Bucks fans?