Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight [Maryland 2002]

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Re: Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight [Maryland 2002] 

Post#41 » by KF10 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:54 pm

ManualRam wrote:It's John Gilchrist, not Michael Gilchrist.
John Gilchrist was supposed to be the second coming of Steve Francis for Maryland, which he was in some aspects. he was a very talented headcase that didnt amount to anything.



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Re: Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight [Maryland 2002] 

Post#42 » by mattzane227 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:56 pm

lol @ blake putting his dukes up. I hate him.
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Re: Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight [Maryland 2002] 

Post#43 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:32 pm

I never could stand Blake. He's the guy in a pickup game that snaps because he was accidentally fouled. He is constantly getting in scuffles and it is annoying. Also dislike him because of what went down in his stint with the Bucks. He publicly stated he didn't want to come here and he then played horribly until he was traded. I personally believe he tanked his way out of Milwaukee, but at the very least he was a big enough b**** that he let his emotions effect the way he played for team paying him million of dollars.
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Re: Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight [Maryland 2002] 

Post#44 » by vincecarter4pres » Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:05 pm

Back then I thought Gilchrist was going to be a really solid NBA player, don't know what happened too him although I heard rumors of poor worth ethic and an attitude with a sense of entitlement, who really knows though.

And for everyone making a big deal about this and getting on Blake and calling him a bitch, if you haven't been in a fistfight on a basketball court you probably aren't competitive enough and/or you are that bitch that backed down when challenged all the time and then said afterwords you were being the bigger man while you're telling your friends how, "I would have **** that dude up..."
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Re: Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight [Maryland 2002] 

Post#45 » by JellosJigglin » Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:26 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:Back then I thought Gilchrist was going to be a really solid NBA player, don't know what happened too him although I heard rumors of poor worth ethic and an attitude with a sense of entitlement, who really knows though.

And for everyone making a big deal about this and getting on Blake and calling him a bitch, if you haven't been in a fistfight on a basketball court you probably aren't competitive enough and/or you are that bitch that backed down when challenged all the time and then said afterwords you were being the bigger man while you're telling your friends how, "I would have **** that dude up..."


That's just it. On the street courts when you get in someones face you better be ready to throw down. In the NBA they're such pussies that they know they'll get pulled away before anything happens, so they put on a tough guy act.
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Re: Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight [Maryland 2002] 

Post#46 » by turtlesnjoi » Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:32 pm

Does any basketball player know how to actually throw a punch or fight? The only sport I've seen with bigger wimps is soccer.
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Re: Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight [Maryland 2002] 

Post#47 » by vincecarter4pres » Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:36 pm

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vincecarter4pres wrote:Back then I thought Gilchrist was going to be a really solid NBA player, don't know what happened too him although I heard rumors of poor worth ethic and an attitude with a sense of entitlement, who really knows though.

And for everyone making a big deal about this and getting on Blake and calling him a bitch, if you haven't been in a fistfight on a basketball court you probably aren't competitive enough and/or you are that bitch that backed down when challenged all the time and then said afterwords you were being the bigger man while you're telling your friends how, "I would have **** that dude up..."


That's just it. On the street courts when you get in someones face you better be ready to throw down. In the NBA they're such pussies that they know they'll get pulled away before anything happens, so they put on a tough guy act.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not condoning fighting at the drop of a hat, nor claiming I'm some kind of tough guy, I just feel like a lot of younger kids these days are pussafied to the extent that a minor scuffle is unspeakable taboo nowadays.

I've played on courts like that in the past and honestly, that **** is just stupid, where dudes were ready to throw fists after every argued traveling call or cause a dude fouled them to hard and like 4 or 5 times a game to 15 there was a shout fest and all types of physical restraining going on.

That's too much, just corny.

But over years of playing ball, especially and specifically in my teens and early 20's, occasional fist fights on a basketball court just happen, it's inevitable. Basketball is a lot more physical then it seems and egos and tempers flare. From street courts, to open gyms to practices, **** happens.
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Re: Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight 

Post#48 » by G35 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:56 pm

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GameOver25 wrote:Both players immediately get tougher when other players are holding them back....especially Blake.

i couldve sworn blake threw the first punch and was the one coming forward. he didnt need anyone to hold him back.
i think blake's just one of those dudes who overreacts and spazzes out to make up for how he looks.



I think you hit it right on the head ManualRam. If everyone takes a real look at Steve Blake and imagine how he gets treated on the court. White guy, with a funny looking jumpshot. If everyone is honest he probably doesn't get a whole lot of respect on the court. And like has been mentioned there is a lot of testosterone on a basketball court. I respect Blake just for the fact he doesn't just let people just cheap shot him all game and I'm sure he gets it a lot. Anyone that is smaller or shorter than everyone else on the court is going to get some cheap shots.

People can't wait to punk someone on the court if they think they see an easy target.....
I'm so tired of the typical......
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Re: Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight [Maryland 2002] 

Post#49 » by Semaj » Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:44 am

KF10 wrote:I'm pretty sure this happened recently not 2002. Gilchrist is like, what, 18/19 years old right now? That would make him 9/10 years old if it was 2002.

People use your heads!


How about you use your head & actually read what's in the title before you make another post like this, k? Thanks.
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Re: Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight [Maryland 2002] 

Post#50 » by Kabookalu » Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:09 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:And for everyone making a big deal about this and getting on Blake and calling him a bitch, if you haven't been in a fistfight on a basketball court you probably aren't competitive enough and/or you are that bitch that backed down when challenged all the time and then said afterwords you were being the bigger man while you're telling your friends how, "I would have **** that dude up..."


Blake isn't a bitch because he started fighting, it's because he threw a sucker punch. When altercations occur, the first move usually made is one guy pushes the other and then a fight either ensues or is broken up. Blake's first move was getting a cheap punch in. And it's not like one of those fights where contact was being made all throughout the game that escalated like a valve slowly turning up and then there's that one exchange of contact that is made and through the heat of the moment, someone starts throwing elbows and punches. I would hate to make assumptions but I get the feeling when that type of fight happens, the first exchange of punches are thrown unconsciously because the tension was building up. I can't speak for the situation or Blake, but it looked like Blake was consciously planning on throwing a punch.

There's no reals for street fighting but there is an unspoken rule of code. Those that throw in a sucker punch before the other person can know what you're going to do is frowned upon.
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Re: Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight [Maryland 2002] 

Post#51 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:32 am

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vincecarter4pres wrote:And for everyone making a big deal about this and getting on Blake and calling him a bitch, if you haven't been in a fistfight on a basketball court you probably aren't competitive enough and/or you are that bitch that backed down when challenged all the time and then said afterwords you were being the bigger man while you're telling your friends how, "I would have **** that dude up..."


Blake isn't a bitch because he started fighting, it's because he threw a sucker punch. When altercations occur, the first move usually made is one guy pushes the other and then a fight either ensues or is broken up. Blake's first move was getting a cheap punch in. And it's not like one of those fights where contact was being made all throughout the game that escalated like a valve slowly turning up and then there's that one exchange of contact that is made and through the heat of the moment, someone starts throwing elbows and punches. I would hate to make assumptions but I get the feeling when that type of fight happens, the first exchange of punches are thrown unconsciously because the tension was building up. I can't speak for the situation or Blake, but it looked like Blake was consciously planning on throwing a punch.

There's no reals for street fighting but there is an unspoken rule of code. Those that throw in a sucker punch before the other person can know what you're going to do is frowned upon.

What is this middle school, or 1920's fisticuffs?

I don't think you know what a real sucker punch is.

He swung on the dude, someone has to be the aggressor in a fight.

Slowly building up like a valve?

Are you serious right now?

It was a quick scuffle.

And how do you know how long it was building up? There is no context to derive from that video, it could have went back months or hours or minutes and that video was cut up from a long tape of a team scrimmage.

It seems you don't know what a real fight is.

A real fight isn't some UFC hospitalization blood filled beat down most of the time.

A real fight also is not some planned refereed boxing match where the fighters touch gloves separate and then square up, broken up when they start doing other things then throwing above the belt punches, broken down into rounds by ringing a bell and then scored.

You're really getting too deep here and coming across sounding naive.

It was a quick scuffle set off by something, likely Gilchrist being antagonizing leading up to it or in a prior setting, likely combined with Blake being a hothead, then some physical contact that was seen in the video to light the short fuse.
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Re: Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight [Maryland 2002] 

Post#52 » by Kabookalu » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:26 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:I don't think you know what a real sucker punch is.

He swung on the dude, someone has to be the aggressor in a fight.

Slowly building up like a valve?

Are you serious right now?

It was a quick scuffle.

And how do you know how long it was building up? There is no context to derive from that video, it could have went back months or hours or minutes and that video was cut up from a long tape of a team scrimmage.

It seems you don't know what a real fight is.

A real fight isn't some UFC hospitalization blood filled beat down most of the time.

A real fight also is not some planned refereed boxing match where the fighters touch gloves separate and then square up, broken up when they start doing other things then throwing above the belt punches, broken down into rounds by ringing a bell and then scored.

You're really getting too deep here and coming across sounding naive.

It was a quick scuffle set off by something, likely Gilchrist being antagonizing leading up to it or in a prior setting, likely combined with Blake being a hothead, then some physical contact that was seen in the video to light the short fuse.


Playing cheap must be how they fight in your area. I already clarified that there are no rules in street fights but unless you're dealing with gangbangers who are trying to come up with money, most fights start off with one person pushing the other to let him know that he's serious to get down. Not unless the fight was already planned and the two have their dukes up already knowing they're going to fight. Gilchrist judging from the way he opens his arms doesn't look like he was prepared to get in a fight, and then Blake throws in a cheap punch when he was off guard. Blake threw a cheap punch in.




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Re: Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight [Maryland 2002] 

Post#53 » by big_ticket » Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:00 am

hate when people punch and backout :evil:
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Re: Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight [Maryland 2002] 

Post#54 » by doctorfunk » Sun Aug 28, 2011 1:05 pm

nice reflexes there from Gilchrist that first punch was quick
Blake is such a bully
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Re: Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight [Maryland 2002] 

Post#55 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:18 pm

Choker wrote:Playing cheap must be how they fight in your area. I already clarified that there are no rules in street fights but unless you're dealing with gangbangers who are trying to come up with money, most fights start off with one person pushing the other to let him know that he's serious to get down. Not unless the fight was already planned and the two have their dukes up already knowing they're going to fight.

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Re: Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight [Maryland 2002] 

Post#56 » by Kabookalu » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:04 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:Image
Not sure if serious...


Sounds like there's nothing but pussies in your area.




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Re: Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight [Maryland 2002] 

Post#57 » by NickAnderson » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:40 pm

Choker wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:I don't think you know what a real sucker punch is.

He swung on the dude, someone has to be the aggressor in a fight.

Slowly building up like a valve?

Are you serious right now?

It was a quick scuffle.

And how do you know how long it was building up? There is no context to derive from that video, it could have went back months or hours or minutes and that video was cut up from a long tape of a team scrimmage.

It seems you don't know what a real fight is.

A real fight isn't some UFC hospitalization blood filled beat down most of the time.

A real fight also is not some planned refereed boxing match where the fighters touch gloves separate and then square up, broken up when they start doing other things then throwing above the belt punches, broken down into rounds by ringing a bell and then scored.

You're really getting too deep here and coming across sounding naive.

It was a quick scuffle set off by something, likely Gilchrist being antagonizing leading up to it or in a prior setting, likely combined with Blake being a hothead, then some physical contact that was seen in the video to light the short fuse.


Playing cheap must be how they fight in your area. I already clarified that there are no rules in street fights but unless you're dealing with gangbangers who are trying to come up with money, most fights start off with one person pushing the other to let him know that he's serious to get down. Not unless the fight was already planned and the two have their dukes up already knowing they're going to fight. Gilchrist judging from the way he opens his arms doesn't look like he was prepared to get in a fight, and then Blake throws in a cheap punch when he was off guard. Blake threw a cheap punch in.


Two people starring right at each other and one throwing a punch isn't a cheap shot. A cheap shot is when the person you hit is blindsided or something like that. That clearly wasn't a cheap shot.
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Re: Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight [Maryland 2002] 

Post#58 » by Kabookalu » Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:01 pm

NickAnderson wrote:Two people starring right at each other and one throwing a punch isn't a cheap shot. A cheap shot is when the person you hit is blindsided or something like that. That clearly wasn't a cheap shot.


That would apply if Gilchrist knew he was going to get in a fight. In the video it didn't look like that at all. If someone was staring me down and I didn't know what the hell he was leading to and threw a punch at me, that's a cheap hit.




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Re: Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight 

Post#59 » by NYForever » Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:16 pm

G35 wrote:
ManualRam wrote:
GameOver25 wrote:Both players immediately get tougher when other players are holding them back....especially Blake.

i couldve sworn blake threw the first punch and was the one coming forward. he didnt need anyone to hold him back.
i think blake's just one of those dudes who overreacts and spazzes out to make up for how he looks.



I think you hit it right on the head ManualRam. If everyone takes a real look at Steve Blake and imagine how he gets treated on the court. White guy, with a funny looking jumpshot. If everyone is honest he probably doesn't get a whole lot of respect on the court. And like has been mentioned there is a lot of testosterone on a basketball court. I respect Blake just for the fact he doesn't just let people just cheap shot him all game and I'm sure he gets it a lot. Anyone that is smaller or shorter than everyone else on the court is going to get some cheap shots.

People can't wait to punk someone on the court if they think they see an easy target.....


It has nothing to do with the way Blake looks, quit making excuses for the obvious! Blake threw a punch (that missed for you guys saying it connected), when Gilchrist wasn't even trying to scrap. Then got his ass caught and almost dropped. Case closed! No one was there to assume anything else....
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Re: Steve Blake & John Gilchrist fight 

Post#60 » by MAQ » Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:34 pm

NYForever wrote:It has nothing to do with the way Blake looks, quit making excuses for the obvious! Blake threw a punch (that missed for you guys saying it connected), when Gilchrist wasn't even trying to scrap. Then got his ass caught and almost dropped. Case closed! No one was there to assume anything else....

I'm going to go ahead and argue the dumbest **** ever.

If Blake missed that first punch, then tell me what that sound of flesh smacking flesh was when he threw it?
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