So Lebron has same # of MVPs as Shaq,Kobe,Dirk,Wade combined

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Re: So Lebron has same # of MVPs as Shaq,Kobe,Dirk,Wade comb 

Post#41 » by ShowTimeERA » Sat May 12, 2012 1:56 am

Jazzfan12 wrote:
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How can anyone deny LeBron is not deserving of the regular season most valuable player award?
there is no need to put down other players


Lebron certainly deserved the MVP award but it's ludacris to think that shaq and Kobe shouldn't have won more than 1 MVP in their careers. Shaq is the most dominant player in the history of the nba and Kobe is the most skillful twoway player in the nba since Michael.


Kobe wasn't the best player in the NBA very often at all though.


Kobe played in an era with two other top 10 players in nba history. Neither shaq nor Duncan had more individual talent but were more important because dominant big men win championships and are easier to build around.
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Post#42 » by MeloStateOfMind » Sat May 12, 2012 2:07 am

MVPs are nice for the regular season and yes he deserved it...when he wins a ring then say somethin...Everyone forgets about MVPs...yes I know Melo has won neither and only has an NCAA championship to claim before yall decide to throw stones lol...
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Post#43 » by starvinmarvin17 » Sat May 12, 2012 2:16 am

Or all the crybabies instead of whining about your stolen lunch box why don't you make an argument on who the MVP should have been every year lbj won
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Post#44 » by s_g_b » Sat May 12, 2012 2:18 am

starvinmarvin17 wrote:Or all the crybabies instead of whining about your stolen lunch box why don't you make an argument on who the MVP should have been every year lbj won

Melo 09 Kobe 10
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Post#45 » by kenifvintage » Sat May 12, 2012 2:19 am

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Post#46 » by MastaStrategist » Sat May 12, 2012 2:21 am

ShowTimeERA wrote:
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Lebron certainly deserved the MVP award but it's ludacris to think that shaq and Kobe shouldn't have won more than 1 MVP in their careers. Shaq is the most dominant player in the history of the nba and Kobe is the most skillful twoway player in the nba since Michael.


Kobe wasn't the best player in the NBA very often at all though.


Kobe played in an era with two other top 10 players in nba history. Neither shaq nor Duncan had more individual talent but were more important because dominant big men win championships and are easier to build around.


This.

3 of the top 10 players of all time were dominant in the 80's: Magic, Larry, and Kareem

3 in the early years of the new millennium : Kobe, Shaq, and Duncan

2 in the 50's/60's: Wilt, Russel

2 in the 90's: Jordan, and (arguably) Hakeem

Lebron isn't competing with anywhere near the talent that these guys did when it comes to other "best-ever" type dominant players in their era, especially in the 80's and early 00's.
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Post#47 » by Bodhi » Sat May 12, 2012 2:22 am

Number of MVPs is pretty irrelevant, but MVP shares is very interesting.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/lea ... areer.html

Swap Hakeem for Malone and you have a great top 10 all time list
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Post#48 » by cb4_89 » Sat May 12, 2012 2:34 am

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High0ctane21 wrote:I think this goes to show more how terrible the picks of MVP have been, and not the greatness of Lebron.

It's not that, it comes down to who was the comp in that era. How many MVP's are Shaq and Hakeem going to win when MJ is around even when they are in there prime?
Lebron was winning his MVP's when guys like Shaq, Duncan, Garnett were not in there primes anymore. That changes quite a bit if he comes in the league 3-4 years earlier.


Lebron coming in earlier just means he takes the Steve Nash and Dirk MVPs. He would probably have 3 at least anyway. He is truly a great player and playing with Shaq, Duncan and Garnett wouldn't have changed anything. Shaq should have more MVPs BTW.
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Post#49 » by fudgie » Sat May 12, 2012 2:37 am

LeBron has the same # of championships as Shaq, Kobe, Dirk, Wade combined.

Oh, wait.
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Post#50 » by GrangerDanger » Sat May 12, 2012 2:40 am

Doesn't mean much. This is one of the weakest eras in NBA history. Throw Mitch Richmond or Detlef Schrempf in today's game and they probably win some MVPs. heck I would take a couple of Latrell Sprewell's best years over Lebron this year. Imagine Latrell with no handcheck, gets fouled if people breathe on him, and he's allowed to crab dribble all game. :o Dude would average 33/5/5
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Post#51 » by Sinant » Sat May 12, 2012 2:41 am

GrangerDanger wrote:Doesn't mean much. This is one of the weakest eras in NBA history. Throw Mitch Richmond or Detlef Schrempf in today's game and they probably win some MVPs. heck I would take a couple of Latrell Sprewell's best years over Lebron this year. Imagine Latrell with no handcheck, gets fouled if people breathe on him, and he's allowed to crab dribble all game. :o Dude would average 33/5/5


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Post#52 » by Yungsta404 » Sat May 12, 2012 2:41 am

s_g_b wrote:
starvinmarvin17 wrote:Or all the crybabies instead of whining about your stolen lunch box why don't you make an argument on who the MVP should have been every year lbj won

Melo 09 Kobe 10



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Post#53 » by Mo26 » Sat May 12, 2012 2:42 am

Nash has as many MVP's as Shaq and Kobe combined. lmao.
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Post#54 » by EscapoTHB » Sat May 12, 2012 2:47 am

He should have had more. Just like those guys.
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Post#55 » by Edrees » Sat May 12, 2012 2:48 am

And he's got less rings than Adam morrison
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Post#56 » by Flash3 » Sat May 12, 2012 3:06 am

We have an MVP thread discussing LBJ's MVP award.
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