Cavs offered #4, #24, #33 and #34 picks to NOH for #1 pick

Don Draper · Post #41 » by **Don Draper** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:11 pm

I'd do #4 and 2013 1st rounder (unprotected)

KING CB4 · Post #42 » by **KING CB4** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:14 pm

ecnirp wrote:
KING CB4 wrote:
twinthunder3 wrote:This is a very fair deal. But the dearth of info on the other prospects aside from Anthony Davis might cause the Hornets to decline the trade.

Its actually a pretty crappy offer. If Cleveland was serious, they would have offered their #4, Tristan Thompson, and 2013 1st rounder.

They'd have a better chance if they drafted Val last year.

Agreed. But with the hype Val has gotten the last year, they wouldn't need to add a 2013 pick. Val and the #4 would more than fair. Although if I was Cleveland in that hypothetical situation, I would just hold on to Val and the #4. Unless they are hitting a home run getting Davis (no chance) they are going to take Barnes.

Copperhead · Post #43 » by **Copperhead** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:16 pm

Don Draper wrote:I'd do #4 and 2013 1st rounder (unprotected)

Would you really? Please tell us why.

RutgersBJJ · Post #44 » by **RutgersBJJ** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:18 pm

This isn't football, those picks outside of 4 have no value. I wouldn't even trade the #1 pick in most drafts for the 2nd and 3rd pick.

Thompson + all those picks and taking on Ariza or Okafor's contract would still not be enough in a 1 player draft.

Copperhead · Post #45 » by **Copperhead** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:21 pm

RutgersBJJ wrote:This isn't football, those picks outside of 4 have no value. I wouldn't even trade the #1 pick in most drafts for the 2nd and 3rd pick.

Thompson + all those picks and taking on Ariza or Okafor's contract would still not be enough in a 1 player draft.

Especially not a consensus #1 pick. I would get a kick out of seeing how many of these "GM's" here would eff teams up if a team gave them the GM job for about a year. :lol:

TayP · Post #46 » by **TayP** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:22 pm

If Thomas Robinson or Andre Drummond impresses during individual workouts and NO calls the Bobcats I'm willing to trade Kemba and Bizmack for a lottery pick each, and offer #2,+2 lottery picks from them+#31. We all know how the Magic lucked up when trading the #1, it's just that Shaq wanted to be a Hollywood star what stop them from a title.

Don Draper · Post #47 » by **Don Draper** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:23 pm

Copperhead wrote:
Don Draper wrote:I'd do #4 and 2013 1st rounder (unprotected)

Would you really? Please tell us why.

I don't think Davis will be as good as everyone expects him to be and I think with the new CBA lottery picks are even more valuable. The Cavs would will most likely still be a lottery team even with Davis.

Throw in the #24 pick and I'd say yes with no hesitation.

Brauer · Post #48 » by **Brauer** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:25 pm

Id offer all those picks and Tristan Thompson

KING CB4 · Post #49 » by **KING CB4** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:25 pm

TayP wrote:If Thomas Robinson or Andre Drummond impresses during individual workouts and NO calls the Bobcats I'm willing to trade Kemba and Bizmack for a lottery pick each, and offer #2,+2 lottery picks from them+#31. We all know how the Magic lucked up when trading the #1, it's just that Shaq wanted to be a Hollywood star what stop them from a title.

lukeman89 · Post #50 » by **lukeman89** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:25 pm

anthony davis is just another tyrus thomas

Copperhead · Post #51 » by **Copperhead** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:25 pm

Don Draper wrote:
Copperhead wrote:
Don Draper wrote:I'd do #4 and 2013 1st rounder (unprotected)

Would you really? Please tell us why.

I don't think Davis will be as good as everyone expects him to be and I think with the new CBA lottery picks are even more valuable. The Cavs would will most likely still be a lottery team even with Davis.

Throw in the #24 pick and I'd say yes with no hesitation.

So which team are you looking for to benefit from this trade?

Also, if the Cavs will most likely still be a lottery team even with Davis, then they don't need him. Let the Hornets be a lottery team with him. :-?

Don Draper · Post #52 » by **Don Draper** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:29 pm

Copperhead wrote:So which team are you looking for to benefit from this trade?

Also, if the Cavs will most likely still be a lottery team even with Davis, then they don't need him. Let the Hornets be a lottery team with him.

I'm saying if I were the Hornets.

TayP · Post #53 » by **TayP** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:32 pm

I agree #4/Tristian Thompson/2013 unprotected 1st would have gotten a lot of thought. The Cavs were being greedy any way because they probably had a deal set up for TT.

Copperhead · Post #54 » by **Copperhead** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:32 pm

Don Draper wrote:
Copperhead wrote:So which team are you looking for to benefit from this trade?

Also, if the Cavs will most likely still be a lottery team even with Davis, then they don't need him. Let the Hornets be a lottery team with him.

I'm saying if I were the Hornets.

Really? You'd really do this if you were the Hornets? :lol:

If you're serious, I somehow think you'd be out of a job in no time.

dballislife · Post #55 » by **dballislife** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:35 pm

4 plus tristan thompson and those picks and NO still wont care...they would think if its irving plus 4

TayP · Post #56 » by **TayP** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:36 pm

KING CB4 wrote:
TayP wrote:If Thomas Robinson or Andre Drummond impresses during individual workouts and NO calls the Bobcats I'm willing to trade Kemba and Bizmack for a lottery pick each, and offer #2,+2 lottery picks from them+#31. We all know how the Magic lucked up when trading the #1, it's just that Shaq wanted to be a Hollywood star what stop them from a title.

How is this funny when Chris Webber was the consensus #1 pick in 1993 but after Penny's workout the Magic wanted him instead. Or the fact that I said trading Biz and Kemba for lottery picks because I think each can net one. Or do you think it's to much for Davis?

Copperhead · Post #57 » by **Copperhead** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:38 pm

So people always say you should go big over small, yet, while Irving had a pretty good rookie season, they think the Hornets would go Irving over Davis? I know Davis hasn't proven anything in the NBA yet but really? People are acting like Irving just had the best rookie season in the past 20 years or something.

So I guess if both players were in this draft Irving would go over Davis?

Brauer · Post #58 » by **Brauer** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:38 pm

lukeman89 wrote:anthony davis is just another tyrus thomas

I see Tyson Chandler with solid midrange shooting.

Copperhead · Post #59 » by **Copperhead** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:38 pm

Word is going around that the Hornets #10 pick might be up for grabs guys, not the #1 pick.

Copperhead · Post #60 » by **Copperhead** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:39 pm

Brauer wrote:
lukeman89 wrote:anthony davis is just another tyrus thomas

I see Tyson Chandler with solid midrange shooting.

I don't even know why you entertained that. :lol: