Bogut:"Maybe 5 or 6 teams play team oriented basketball

Optms · Post #41 » by **Optms** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:21 am

Based on assist per game, the teams that represent the most ball movement:

Celtics - 25.8
Warriors - 25.7
Wizards - 24.6
Hawks - 24.3
Blazers - 23.9
Mavericks - 23.9
Spurs - 23.5
Clippers - 22.0
Bulls - 22,0
Cavaliers - 21.9

cdubbz · Post #42 » by **cdubbz** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:24 am

Dajadeed wrote:Not many players in the league I hate more than this douche Bogut. JR Smith, maybe.

Yoshun · Post #43 » by **Yoshun** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:27 am

Optms wrote:Based on assist per game, the teams that represent the most ball movement:

Celtics - 25.8
Warriors - 25.7
Wizards - 24.6
Hawks - 24.3
Blazers - 23.9
Mavericks - 23.9
Spurs - 23.5
Clippers - 22.0
Bulls - 22,0
Cavaliers - 21.9

That's a little deceiving though. Most of those teams have one guy who's averaging a bunch of assists. Assists per game aren't always a great indication of ball movement.

I kind of agree with Bogut here. Most teams really are just iso.

blazertown7 · Post #44 » by **blazertown7** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:39 am

I guess he thinks bogut is a douche because he's always on alterations etc but isn't that kind of his job as an inforcer?

Tetlak · Post #45 » by **Tetlak** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:18 am

Traps13 wrote:
Tetlak wrote:Spurs
Warriors
Mavericks
Blazers
Grizzlies
Hawks
Bulls

Thats my list right there.

wow ur ignorant to leave the raptors out shows how much u know

#clown #proveem

Sorry, but Derozan loves his iso ball as does Lou Will. None of the Raps bigs are good passers at all. Lowry can make plays but he more times than not keeps it off of the PnR for himself. I realize that the Raps may be getting contributions from multiple players, but I wouldn't classify them as one of the most team oriented teams in the league.

#immature #whothefhashtags

realfung · Post #46 » by **realfung** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:33 am

Out of head: GSW, Spurs, Memphis, Mavs, Suns, Chicago, Portland ....

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oldschooled · Post #47 » by **oldschooled** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:33 am

House12 wrote:I think Atlanta plays team basketball. They run a lot of screens & cuts, and their coach is a disciple of pop.

Is the triangle considered team basketball?

Optms · Post #48 » by **Optms** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 1:49 am

Yoshun wrote:
Optms wrote:Based on assist per game, the teams that represent the most ball movement:

Celtics - 25.8
Warriors - 25.7
Wizards - 24.6
Hawks - 24.3
Blazers - 23.9
Mavericks - 23.9
Spurs - 23.5
Clippers - 22.0
Bulls - 22,0
Cavaliers - 21.9

That's a little deceiving though. Most of those teams have one guy who's averaging a bunch of assists. Assists per game aren't always a great indication of ball movement.

I kind of agree with Bogut here. Most teams really are just iso.

Well, I've watched a lot of games this season and before I even looked those stats up, I figured these teams vying to make this list. All these teams move the ball incredibly well.

Even the Wizards and Celtics, who despite having a ball dominant PGs, are incredibly unselfish. The ball never sticks. Constant ball movement.

Throwback24 · Post #49 » by **Throwback24** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:14 am

Raptors sound like a lock

RNsteve · Post #50 » by **RNsteve** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:42 am

Raptors play some screen/rolls, but overall not a ton of teamwork on Offense..

On Defense, for sure, but on Offense they have a health dose of Iso's.

Dr Aki · Post #51 » by **Dr Aki** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:46 am

Little Digger wrote:LA Lakers!

cos the team is just kobe

Dajadeed · Post #52 » by **Dajadeed** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:11 am

ValHoffa wrote:
Dajadeed wrote:
hodgy#11 wrote:
Bogut calls it how he sees it, if you can't respect that, then that says more about you, than it does him..

Thanks for the cliche response. Those psych classes really paid off.

whats so douchey about bogut???

He came into the league bad mouthing American athletes and acting holier than thou. He acts like he's above the bs and better than everyone, yet he's actually a borderline dirty player. He has been in more altercations than average because he uses little dirty tricks when boxing out and setting screens. Watch how he plays, I'm surprised more players haven't tried to deck him out.

I honestly believe his constant injuries are karma. He's the ultimate doucebag in that he obviously has many people convinced he's a good cat.

I might be biased, and this is just my personal opinion. I just hate the dude.

AussieCeltic · Post #53 » by **AussieCeltic** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:32 am

Dajadeed wrote:
ValHoffa wrote:
Dajadeed wrote:
Thanks for the cliche response. Those psych classes really paid off.

whats so douchey about bogut???

He came into the league bad mouthing American athletes and acting holier than thou. He acts like he's above the bs and better than everyone, yet he's actually a borderline dirty player. He has been in more altercations than average because he uses little dirty tricks when boxing out and setting screens. Watch how he plays, I'm surprised more players haven't tried to deck him out.

I honestly believe his constant injuries are karma. He's the ultimate doucebag in that he obviously has many people convinced he's a good cat.

I might be biased, and this is just my personal opinion. I just hate the dude.

He tells it as it is.

He's a player who is loved by teammates and fans. Just look at what he did in Milwaukee. Buying tickets for the loudest fans to get people more excited about going to games.

It sounds like Bogut slept with your girl or something.

Dr Aki · Post #54 » by **Dr Aki** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:40 am

Dajadeed wrote:I honestly believe his constant injuries are karma. He's the ultimate doucebag in that he obviously has many people convinced he's a good cat.

I might be biased, and this is just my personal opinion. I just hate the dude.

as an aussie, i too don't like bogut, but only because he always seems to be injured when the international tournies come around

what a tosser

Volcano · Post #55 » by **Volcano** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:52 am

RNsteve wrote:Raptors play some screen/rolls, but overall not a ton of teamwork on Offense..

On Defense, for sure, but on Offense they have a health dose of Iso's.

yeah, but our big men work hard to set those screens so our guards can chuck up a shot..that's team ball

Chuck Newhouse · Post #56 » by **Chuck Newhouse** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:20 am

ValHoffa wrote:
Dajadeed wrote:
hodgy#11 wrote:
Bogut calls it how he sees it, if you can't respect that, then that says more about you, than it does him..

Thanks for the cliche response. Those psych classes really paid off.

whats so douchey about bogut???

I remember hearing years ago that he was a grade A ass hole.

RNsteve · Post #57 » by **RNsteve** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:29 am

Volcano wrote:
RNsteve wrote:Raptors play some screen/rolls, but overall not a ton of teamwork on Offense..

On Defense, for sure, but on Offense they have a health dose of Iso's.

yeah, but our big men work hard to set those screens so our guards can chuck up a shot..that's team ball

I guess it's team ball- just not very complicated team ball. Defense wise, without a doubt- Casey actually has produced a solid little system considering our defense at the 2/3/5 positions is suspect.

old rem · Post #58 » by **old rem** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:52 am

Little Digger wrote:LA Lakers!

Boarder Patrol · Post #59 » by **Boarder Patrol** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:58 am

I know this is basically the epitome of delusional Knick fan syndrome, but for all that's gone wrong this season, players have at least bought into the system :dontknow:

For God sake's, we've practically had to remind guys to go for their own shots too sometimes. The reason we suck is because

(A) the players running the system suck and
(B) they don't know the system beyond the basics yet.

Hendrix · Post #60 » by **Hendrix** » Fri Nov 28, 2014 4:58 am

Atlanta belongs in there.

Raptors are weird imo, because if you judge them based solely on assists, the ranked 3rd last in the league in assists. But, when you watch them play, it seems like they play team basketball in so far as, the entire team knows their roles, and they distribute the scoring to whoever is cooking that night. Nobody has a problem taking a back seat. I mean, Raptors had 7 players in double figures last night with 2 guys in the 20's. 1 game it's Lou leading the way, another game Demar, or Lowry, or Valanciunas, or Ross, or Grievis.

In the vast majority of games the Raps have had 5-7 players in double digits.

So, I guess you kind of need to define "team basketball".