Rudy Gobert: Future DPOY

[Tommo1986]

Wish he was getting 30mins a game


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[King Ken]

His play in the World Championships helped a lot. Good to see him panning out, pre-Draft he was your classic 'boom or big-time bust' sort of a pick.

I always liked Rudy due to his skill-level and his length. His athleticism is nice too. I think the guys who do bust are guys who usually lack BBIQ and the mobility to play in the NBA. Scouts didn't like Rudy's lack of strength. He is still weak but he's so long and mobile, he makes up for it.

[breaking bad]

When will this guy become the starting center in SLC? His numbers are simply amazing.

[laika]

When will this guy become the starting center in SLC? His numbers are simply amazing.

Well the problem is that Favors and Kanter are mostly centers also. Still, Gobert is getting 25 min a game over the last 12 games.
The best option for the Jazz would be to get rid of Kanter and draft a stretch 4. That way Gobert and Favors could play full time minutes.

[orlandomanic]

He will never be an all star, but i think at best he could be a 12/9 guy. Just like DeAndre, McGee, and Drummond, his free throw shooting is horrible and that will be what limits his playing time and 4th quarter appearances.

He's shooting .692 from the line this year. Not mindblowing, but hardly "horrible".

What I like about him for a young big, especially one that contests shots often, is that his foul rate is pretty low, and his block-to-foul ratio is pretty high. Shows that he can play hard and smart. Can be a bit fumbly and turn the ball over a little too much on offense though, considering his role.

I see him turning out like Tyson Chandler, or at least being molded into that type of player. Pretty good value for an foreign big coming late in the first round. Seems to be a lot further along and much more of a sure thing than someone of similar age and size like Lucas Nogueira, who was taken eleven spots higher in the same draft.

He is shooting 67% from the free throw line and he shot 47% from the line last year, he only shot 50% from the line in his last game..... I'm not hating on the guy, if he can shoot a confident 75%, then great, but that is just speculation now.

Most people don't know that the reason why guys like Noah and Chandler win DPOY over guys like DeAndre Jordan is because of free throw shooting. Both Noah and Chandler have years where they have comfortably hit 75% from the line, and that allowed them to get playing time in the 4th and close out games when defense matters the most.

I'm still going to peg him at 12/9 with good defense with a peak of 3 years. at best i see him as a slightly better version of Hibbert. He will never be a solid #3, but he could be a very good role player for any team.

[jpengland]

To find someone so long, athletic and coordinated is very rare. It was clear in summer league that he was ready.

The number of shots he already blocks/alters is phenomenal and he is only going to get better and better.

He needs to add some bulk but let's hope he doesn't add too much that it impacts his speed

He will never be an elite offensive player but certainly he has shown he can finish at the rim, roll very well and his passing is above average for a center. Already linking very well with Exum and better PG play than Burke offers should result in plenty of easy baskets for him.

If I am the Jazz I'm looking to move Kanter ASAP and possibly even Favors if they can't play together. Exum/Hayward/Gobert is their future. Signing Burks to that deal was a huge mistake.

[DefenseWins]

his body type reminds me of JaVale

Maybe a more smarter, better JaVale?

[laploutocratie]

There is a real chance Rudy becomes the best player in the 2013 draft. His only competition are Oladipo and Giannis.

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[King Ken]

There is a real chance Rudy becomes the best player in the 2013 draft. His only competition are Oladipo and Giannis.

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Don't forget about Dennis Schroeder. One of the most talented PG's in the game and the most talented Hawk.

[King Ken]

To find someone so long, athletic and coordinated is very rare. It was clear in summer league that he was ready.

The number of shots he already blocks/alters is phenomenal and he is only going to get better and better.

He needs to add some bulk but let's hope he doesn't add too much that it impacts his speed

He will never be an elite offensive player but certainly he has shown he can finish at the rim, roll very well and his passing is above average for a center. Already linking very well with Exum and better PG play than Burke offers should result in plenty of easy baskets for him.

If I am the Jazz I'm looking to move Kanter ASAP and possibly even Favors if they can't play together. Exum/Hayward/Gobert is their future. Signing Burks to that deal was a huge mistake.

V. Oladipo for Derrick Favors based trade would work for both teams.

[Ganji]

Camby?

Much better body for center already, maybe taller bulkier version of him.

[Charlie_S]

A few years back I thought he would never be anything special and even when he got drafted by the Jazz I didn't believe he would ever be an impact player. I thought he was simply too lanky and awkward, without any notable offensive talent, and he would remain a mere foul machine whenever on court. Boy, was I wrong.

There are two things that really impress me about Gobert:
- how much he seems to enjoy playing basketball, which is definitely not a given for huge guys like him as we've seen many times in the past
- how hard of a worker he is: he's not simply coasting on his physical gifts, he plays hard and he learns from his mistakes

[Shurs]

I don't know what his ceiling is, as I've only seen him play in two games against the Timberwolves, but he is really impressive. He plays with a mean streak I wasn't anticipating.

[HawaiianJazzFan]

[quote="King Ken"][quote="Amish Mafioso"][quote="King Ken"]I can't wait till Walter Tavares comes to the Hawks from Europe.[/quote]

That guy is not Rudy, who is awesome and already in the NBA. Yeah, let's talk about Rudy.

The rest of the league is starting to sit up and take notice of what Jazz fans already know, that we have a very special player on our hands. His combination of extraordinary length and athleticism for someone that big make him a very rare defensive presence. I don't blame fans of other teams for drooling, as I have to wear a bib every time I watch Rudy play. :wink:[/quote]
You haven't watched Edy play then. Edy is beasting in Spain and putting up way better numbers in a better league then Rudy in France. On top of that, his game translates to the NBA and our style of basketball in Atlanta. Rudy wasn't expected to be this good. He looked like rubbish last year but if you watched him closely, you saw the talent. Same can be said for Edy who is more physically talented, faster, longer, and has higher BBIQ than Gobert. Gobert has more explosiveness and offensive skill than Edy.[/quote]

Tavares is a good prospect and broke Rudy's record of Standing reach, but some of your statements are a little iffy. Rudy didn't really look like Rubbish last year, he made an impact every time he was on the floor, which wasn't very often. Actually Rudy is younger and is putting up similar numbers in the NBA to what Tavares is putting up, so obviously Rudy is putting up better numbers in a better league. It's amazing that you said Tavares has a better IQ than Gobert considering that Gobert is a better passer and Tavares has only been playing the game for like 3 years. Also Gobert is a better rebounder and Tavares' biggest problem IMO is to stay out of foul trouble which is something that Gobert has been excellent at. I've heard that Tavares might not be coming for maybe a few years but it will be exciting to see how he develops.

[King Ken]

That guy is not Rudy, who is awesome and already in the NBA. Yeah, let's talk about Rudy.

The rest of the league is starting to sit up and take notice of what Jazz fans already know, that we have a very special player on our hands. His combination of extraordinary length and athleticism for someone that big make him a very rare defensive presence. I don't blame fans of other teams for drooling, as I have to wear a bib every time I watch Rudy play.

You haven't watched Edy play then. Edy is beasting in Spain and putting up way better numbers in a better league then Rudy in France. On top of that, his game translates to the NBA and our style of basketball in Atlanta. Rudy wasn't expected to be this good. He looked like rubbish last year but if you watched him closely, you saw the talent. Same can be said for Edy who is more physically talented, faster, longer, and has higher BBIQ than Gobert. Gobert has more explosiveness and offensive skill than Edy.

Tavares is a good prospect and broke Rudy's record of Standing reach, but some of your statements are a little iffy. Rudy didn't really look like Rubbish last year, he made an impact every time he was on the floor, which wasn't very often. Actually Rudy is younger and is putting up similar numbers in the NBA to what Tavares is putting up, so obviously Rudy is putting up better numbers in a better league. It's amazing that you said Tavares has a better IQ than Gobert considering that Gobert is a better passer and Tavares has only been playing the game for like 3 years. Also Gobert is a better rebounder and Tavares' biggest problem IMO is to stay out of foul trouble which is something that Gobert has been excellent at. I've heard that Tavares might not be coming for maybe a few years but it will be exciting to see how he develops.

Edy had another great game today and played v. top 5 prospect Porzingins.
http://basketball.realgm.com/internatio ... ria/187948

Edy had 12, 6,and 3 blocks. 2 critical clutch blocks as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUjZ ... X1dhKlQWNc

Edy plays in a league with a lot of legit NBA center prospects and former NBA centers, this isn't France. The competition is much higher than France. Edy is one of the better passing centers in Spain and average more assists compared to Gobert at Cholet. Walt didn't make the same mistakes on defense as Gobert made. Edy has become one of the best defensive players in all of Europe in a league that revolves around spacing. This isn't the NBA where measureables in the end all be all if you have intelligence.

[StocktonShorts]

I'll echo those who have said DPOY. He could start contending for that award as early as next year if he starts.

You can tell he is working on his game. His passing and free throw shooting have been impressive this year compared to last year.

[Hendrix]

I don't know about what he'll become.

But, would Tyson Chanlder, be on point? He's a lot more efficient in limited touches than Hibbert.

[MalonesElbows]

You haven't watched Edy play then. Edy is beasting in Spain and putting up way better numbers in a better league then Rudy in France. On top of that, his game translates to the NBA and our style of basketball in Atlanta. Rudy wasn't expected to be this good. He looked like rubbish last year but if you watched him closely, you saw the talent. Same can be said for Edy who is more physically talented, faster, longer, and has higher BBIQ than Gobert. Gobert has more explosiveness and offensive skill than Edy.

Tavares is a good prospect and broke Rudy's record of Standing reach, but some of your statements are a little iffy. Rudy didn't really look like Rubbish last year, he made an impact every time he was on the floor, which wasn't very often. Actually Rudy is younger and is putting up similar numbers in the NBA to what Tavares is putting up, so obviously Rudy is putting up better numbers in a better league. It's amazing that you said Tavares has a better IQ than Gobert considering that Gobert is a better passer and Tavares has only been playing the game for like 3 years. Also Gobert is a better rebounder and Tavares' biggest problem IMO is to stay out of foul trouble which is something that Gobert has been excellent at. I've heard that Tavares might not be coming for maybe a few years but it will be exciting to see how he develops.

Edy had another great game today and played v. top 5 prospect Porzingins.
http://basketball.realgm.com/internatio ... ria/187948

Edy had 12, 6,and 3 blocks. 2 critical clutch blocks as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUjZ ... X1dhKlQWNc

Edy plays in a league with a lot of legit NBA center prospects and former NBA centers, this isn't France. The competition is much higher than France. Edy is one of the better passing centers in Spain and average more assists compared to Gobert at Cholet. Walt didn't make the same mistakes on defense as Gobert made. Edy has become one of the best defensive players in all of Europe in a league that revolves around spacing. This isn't the NBA where measureables in the end all be all if you have intelligence.

There is no league that compares close enough to the NBA to draw any conclusions. The top 10 euro players are average to deep bench players in the NBA. Biyombo looked good in the Spanish league as well. You won't know what you have with Tavares until you bring him over, and he better be ready to work super hard.

[King Ken]

Tavares is a good prospect and broke Rudy's record of Standing reach, but some of your statements are a little iffy. Rudy didn't really look like Rubbish last year, he made an impact every time he was on the floor, which wasn't very often. Actually Rudy is younger and is putting up similar numbers in the NBA to what Tavares is putting up, so obviously Rudy is putting up better numbers in a better league. It's amazing that you said Tavares has a better IQ than Gobert considering that Gobert is a better passer and Tavares has only been playing the game for like 3 years. Also Gobert is a better rebounder and Tavares' biggest problem IMO is to stay out of foul trouble which is something that Gobert has been excellent at. I've heard that Tavares might not be coming for maybe a few years but it will be exciting to see how he develops.

Edy had another great game today and played v. top 5 prospect Porzingins.
http://basketball.realgm.com/internatio ... ria/187948

Edy had 12, 6,and 3 blocks. 2 critical clutch blocks as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUjZ ... X1dhKlQWNc

Edy plays in a league with a lot of legit NBA center prospects and former NBA centers, this isn't France. The competition is much higher than France. Edy is one of the better passing centers in Spain and average more assists compared to Gobert at Cholet. Walt didn't make the same mistakes on defense as Gobert made. Edy has become one of the best defensive players in all of Europe in a league that revolves around spacing. This isn't the NBA where measureables in the end all be all if you have intelligence.

There is no league that compares close enough to the NBA to draw any conclusions. The top 10 euro players are average to deep bench players in the NBA. Biyombo looked good in the Spanish league as well. You won't know what you have with Tavares until you bring him over, and he better be ready to work super hard.

NBA average is still a decent player. That's what Gobert is right now. NBA average but he has the potential to be pretty good. I am fully aware of Gobert and he's one of my favorite new school kids. I like Walter better even if we didn't draft him. With that said, Gobert has greatly improved and I am proud to see Coach Quin doing well developing players in Utah. As for Bismack, he had a very small sample size. He is no different than Savane but younger, longer, and more talented defensively.

[Amish Mafioso]

Edy plays in a league with a lot of legit NBA center prospects and former NBA centers, this isn't France. The competition is much higher than France.

You know what else isn't France? The NBA, where Rudy is already an elite defensive presence, and a legitimate starter. Even if he never becomes anything more than an average offensive player, his impact on the defensive end is something NBA fans dream about.