Race for 8 seed in NBA is a joke.

[alebaba]

Yall forgot when the Warriors upset the Mavs in hte first round?

[Nowitness]

Yall forgot when the Warriors upset the Mavs in hte first round?

Or when the Knicks went all the way to the Finals? Cliche, but anything can happen in the playoffs in the right matchup.

[Froob]

This is why the first round used to be 5 games.

I honestly believe the first round should be three games, the second 5, and the last 2 rounds 7 games.

All 7 games series for each round is absurd.

They should all be the same. No round should be deemed more or less important than the others. It doesn't make sense for them to be different lengths.

[mtron929]

The format would be so much better if it was 3-5-7-7 instead of 7-7-7-7. Right now, the 1st round seems to drag on so long that the excitement is just washed away. And for those of you who want more games, would you rather prefer it was a 11 game series? More games, right?

If the 1st round was a 3 game series, it would be great. The 1st game is massive and if the underdog wins, the favorite is on the verge of elimination. And no matter what happens game 2 is an elimination game. Who wouldn't want this?

[Bankai]

Its better to be 8th, than 9th. The players like to play longer... and who the F knows. At least you will be considered a "good team".

[mtron929]

Playoff experience is very valuable, for one. And making the 8th seed doesn't necessarily mean you are a treadmill team either. It can mean you are an inexperienced young team on the rise, like the Pistons/Jazz. Maybe neither wins a championship but I'd much rather a team that eventually contends and always comes up short than a team that spends several years putting a really bad product on the floor that nobody wants to watch in hopes of a miracle.

I don't even know if this is true. Everyone says playoff experience is very valuable but it is one of these things say without demonstrating if it is indeed valuable. Is it valuable for Dirk Nowitzki and Deron Williams? Was it valuable for Anthony Davis last year?

[Bankai]

Playoff experience is very valuable, for one. And making the 8th seed doesn't necessarily mean you are a treadmill team either. It can mean you are an inexperienced young team on the rise, like the Pistons/Jazz. Maybe neither wins a championship but I'd much rather a team that eventually contends and always comes up short than a team that spends several years putting a really bad product on the floor that nobody wants to watch in hopes of a miracle.

I don't even know if this is true. Everyone says playoff experience is very valuable but it is one of these things say without demonstrating if it is indeed valuable. Is it valuable for Dirk Nowitzki and Deron Williams? Was it valuable for Anthony Davis last year?

Teams tend to take the next step and get better after getting smashed a low seed. Ask the Rockets and Thunder. Getting in the 1st time, makes you hungry for more.

[mtron929]

Playoff experience is very valuable, for one. And making the 8th seed doesn't necessarily mean you are a treadmill team either. It can mean you are an inexperienced young team on the rise, like the Pistons/Jazz. Maybe neither wins a championship but I'd much rather a team that eventually contends and always comes up short than a team that spends several years putting a really bad product on the floor that nobody wants to watch in hopes of a miracle.

I don't even know if this is true. Everyone says playoff experience is very valuable but it is one of these things say without demonstrating if it is indeed valuable. Is it valuable for Dirk Nowitzki and Deron Williams? Was it valuable for Anthony Davis last year?

Teams tend to take the next step and get better after getting smashed a low seed. Ask the Rockets and Thunder. Getting in the 1st time, makes you hungry for more.

Or maybe they take the next step because they get better.

[hype_2004]

For the entertainment and revenue factor it ain't gonna happen, not a chance. NBA is a business, cutting games will be bad for the bottom line, less money less revenues and less chance for other cities,fans to get involve is a horrible business model.

[XtremeDunkz]

Being a 7/8 seed is pointless. The 76ers got lucky to play an injury ridden Bulls team and take an old Celtic team to 7 games. But everyone knew even if the 76ers pulled off the upset in game 7 they were getting throttled by Miami in the conference finals. Basketball is unlike other sports. 8 seeds in hockey have won championships very recently, 6 seeds in football win championships regularly, wildcard teams in baseball have won championships recently. Basketball lacks the parity for that to be possible.

[mtron929]

For the entertainment and revenue factor it ain't gonna happen, not a chance. NBA is a business, cutting games will be bad for the bottom line, less money less revenues and less chance for other cities,fans to get involve is a horrible business model.

Everyone can agree on this. But the argument here is not whether it is going to happen or whether the product will improve from the fan's perspective. I realize that on a basketball forum, there is a knee jerk reaction against eliminating more games since the hardcore fans want to watch as many games as possible. However, then this is not necessarily true either since these same people would oppose elongating the playoff series to 9 or 11 game series. Basically, I think the conclusion is that most sports fans like the status quo and just automatically oppose any changes to the system.

[hype_2004]

The format would be so much better if it was 3-5-7-7 instead of 7-7-7-7. Right now, the 1st round seems to drag on so long that the excitement is just washed away. And for those of you who want more games, would you rather prefer it was a 11 game series? More games, right?

If the 1st round was a 3 game series, it would be great. The 1st game is massive and if the underdog wins, the favorite is on the verge of elimination. And no matter what happens game 2 is an elimination game. Who wouldn't want this?

As a fan of the sport or competition for that matter, less is better. But from a business standpoint it just doesn't make sense.

[baldur]

The format would be so much better if it was 3-5-7-7 instead of 7-7-7-7. Right now, the 1st round seems to drag on so long that the excitement is just washed away. And for those of you who want more games, would you rather prefer it was a 11 game series? More games, right?

If the 1st round was a 3 game series, it would be great. The 1st game is massive and if the underdog wins, the favorite is on the verge of elimination. And no matter what happens game 2 is an elimination game. Who wouldn't want this?

i already mentioned above but to mention again. it would be great in favour of 8th seeded team. however, there must be some difference between having 70 wins and 40 wins. it would be unfair for the favourite side. best of 7 is the fairest way at the moment.

[michaelm]

Playoff experience is very valuable, for one. And making the 8th seed doesn't necessarily mean you are a treadmill team either. It can mean you are an inexperienced young team on the rise, like the Pistons/Jazz. Maybe neither wins a championship but I'd much rather a team that eventually contends and always comes up short than a team that spends several years putting a really bad product on the floor that nobody wants to watch in hopes of a miracle.

I don't even know if this is true. Everyone says playoff experience is very valuable but it is one of these things say without demonstrating if it is indeed valuable. Is it valuable for Dirk Nowitzki and Deron Williams? Was it valuable for Anthony Davis last year?

GSW seemed to make some further progression after going from nowhere to a fairly low play-off seeding.

[mtron929]

The format would be so much better if it was 3-5-7-7 instead of 7-7-7-7. Right now, the 1st round seems to drag on so long that the excitement is just washed away. And for those of you who want more games, would you rather prefer it was a 11 game series? More games, right?

If the 1st round was a 3 game series, it would be great. The 1st game is massive and if the underdog wins, the favorite is on the verge of elimination. And no matter what happens game 2 is an elimination game. Who wouldn't want this?

i already mentioned above but to mention again. it would be great in favour of 8th seeded team. however, there must be some difference between having 70 wins and 40 wins. it would be unfair for the favourite side. best of 7 is the fairest way at the moment.

Well, most importantly, it would be great for the fans. I am not particularly looking forward to the Atlanta/Charlotte 1st round series but if it is a 3 game series, it would be much more interesting.

[HawaiianJazzFan]

Being a 7/8 seed is pointless. The 76ers got lucky to play an injury ridden Bulls team and take an old Celtic team to 7 games. But everyone knew even if the 76ers pulled off the upset in game 7 they were getting throttled by Miami in the conference finals. Basketball is unlike other sports. 8 seeds in hockey have won championships very recently, 6 seeds in football win championships regularly, wildcard teams in baseball have won championships recently. Basketball lacks the parity for that to be possible.

Again, what's the point in being the 3rd or 4th seed in either conference?? They get a worse draft pick than all the other teams that also aren't going win the championship. Why do they even play any regular season games, only one team wins. Why do they even play any games at all?? Only one team wins and there are 29 losers. Losers mentality, it's like being broke but also being lazy ass and buying lottery tickets to change your situation instead of working hard and constantly improve.

[zeebneeb]

This is why the first round used to be 5 games.

I honestly believe the first round should be three games, the second 5, and the last 2 rounds 7 games.

All 7 games series for each round is absurd.

They should all be the same. No round should be deemed more or less important than the others. It doesn't make sense for them to be different lengths.

Your incorrect.

It's obvious as to why. Lower seeds very rarely win a seven game series but a three game series? The odds go up.

It's gives the lower seeds a better chance and would make for a shorter demolition of obviously underpowered teams so they don't drag on.

It's obvious the jazz/warriors series is going to be less important then a spurs/warriors series in more ways then one but the most important would be entertainment value, the whole reason for the sport and if you can give lower seeds a better chance at success further heightening the entertainment value.

[mtron929]

Being a 7/8 seed is pointless. The 76ers got lucky to play an injury ridden Bulls team and take an old Celtic team to 7 games. But everyone knew even if the 76ers pulled off the upset in game 7 they were getting throttled by Miami in the conference finals. Basketball is unlike other sports. 8 seeds in hockey have won championships very recently, 6 seeds in football win championships regularly, wildcard teams in baseball have won championships recently. Basketball lacks the parity for that to be possible.

Again, what's the point in being the 3rd or 4th seed in either conference?? They get a worse draft pick than all the other teams that also aren't going win the championship. Why do they even play any regular season games, only one team wins. Why do they even play any games at all?? Only one team wins and there are 29 losers. Losers mentality, it's like being broke but also being lazy ass and buying lottery tickets to change your situation instead of working hard and constantly improve.

Well, 3rd or 4th seed have much better chances to make the finals as they are good teams. The level of talent drops drastically from 3rd seed (Thunder, 57+ wins) vs a 8th seed (Rockets, 40 wins), wouldn't you say?

[johanliebert]

There's essentially no point to pro sports at all apart from entertainment value.

People like to make the playoffs because of the entertainment value.

Not super complicated.

exactly its all entertainment. people love underdogs.

[johanliebert]

What is the point? Race for the 8 seed to earn some extra revenue for the team? In the NBA, unlike EVERY other pro sports league, the low seeds have 0.0% chance to win the NBA title. So what is the point? It is what I, as a 76ers fan, endured for almost a decade. We were perennially a low playoff seed and wasted our time in the playoffs. All it did was hurt us as a franchise as our draft picks sucked. We stagnated and had no hope as a franchise.

Give me some reasons to give a damn & try to help me see why 8 seeds in the NBA isn't just a scam by the NBA to make more $? Yes, of course most of you will point out the few 1st round upsets, but when it comes down to it that didn't mean jack $&@#^ because those teams didn't win the title.

I truly wish the NBA reduced the # of playoff teams from 16 to 8.

4 on each side. It would make the regular season more meaningful and would bring the 8 teams that legitimately had a shot to win the title. Of course the chances of this happening are the same as me going on a date with Mia Khalifa tonight...Let's hear it. Convince me to give 2 ****.

you speak as if your an owner or something. why mitigate how big that playoff revenue is? causee at the end of the day these owners want to make a profit.


even when philly decides to win again their odds at a championship are slim to none.