The Hawks Have To Have A Shakeup Right?

[King Ken]

They need to find a way to get Murray in the draft. Perfect fit along side Schroeder as their future backcourt.

The last thing we need is a smaller backcourt to go with our small front court. I actually like Murray but not for this franchise.

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[King Ken]

Our team has Plan a, b and c/d

A. Resign Horford is 1st. Franchise player, our defensive system only works with him and he's a team player. Nothing matters without A.

B. Go all in for Durant. If that fails..

C. Look at the trade market.

D. Free agency market. Not that ample. See if Grant could convince Deng to leave Miami or Green to leave LAC.

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[JDizzel3000]

We aren't blowing it up. Yes, we know you want our players for 10 cents on the dollar.

Not happening. We're bringing back Horford and we are keeping Teague and Dennis unless an attractive offer is on the table.

Have a nice day.

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I don't think this really bothers anyone .... It would simply be a reasonable idea to shuffle some parts on a team that clearly isn't contending is all that's being said


But if locking in on treadmillville by signing Horford to a 30 million dollar a year contract is what that front office wants to do ....hey ...more power to them

[og15]

They made a mistake by giving Milsap a 20 mill per year deal. That said, they should trade Teague and Splitter to the Rockets for Ariza and Brewer. Rockets need a PG and a center and Hawks get a sf/sg because Bazemore is gone. Then trade Korver to the Clippers for Wesley Johnson. The Hawks put a slow defender , Milsap on Lebron. You need a along athletic guy like Ariza and Wes Johnson. Hawks need to resign Horford and reunite him with his college teammate Brewer.

Hawks Lineup.

Horford
Milsap
Ariza
Brewer
Schroeder

Brewer is not a good defender or player and isn't he signed for like $8 million a year for another 2 years.

You can hide bad defenders. Lakers went to the finals with Radmanovic. Granted, the Celtics whooped them in the finals but Ariza and Bynum were injured. I think Teague and Splitter make 16 mill total just like Ariza and Brewer so salaries match. Brewer and Splitter is a push talent wise but Ariza brings a defensive/offensive sf. Korver is useless just like wes johnson but at least wes johnson can bang with lebron on defense.

The main point is that Brewer is not a good player and will not do anything for the Hawks. He's a mediocre defender at best and a poor offensive player and he has a couple of years left.

Your plan is to make a roster where Brewer is starting, that's awful.

Our team has Plan a, b and c/d

A. Resign Horford is 1st. Franchise player, our defensive system only works with him and he's a team player. Nothing matters without A.

B. Go all in for Durant. If that fails..

C. Look at the trade market.

D. Free agency market. Not that ample. See if Grant could convince Deng to leave Miami or Green to leave LAC.

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I don't think you want Jeff Green

[King Ken]

Brewer is not a good defender or player and isn't he signed for like $8 million a year for another 2 years.

You can hide bad defenders. Lakers went to the finals with Radmanovic. Granted, the Celtics whooped them in the finals but Ariza and Bynum were injured. I think Teague and Splitter make 16 mill total just like Ariza and Brewer so salaries match. Brewer and Splitter is a push talent wise but Ariza brings a defensive/offensive sf. Korver is useless just like wes johnson but at least wes johnson can bang with lebron on defense.

The main point is that Brewer is not a good player and will not do anything for the Hawks. He's a mediocre defender at best and a poor offensive player and he has a couple of years left.

Your plan is to make a roster where Brewer is starting, that's awful.

Our team has Plan a, b and c/d

A. Resign Horford is 1st. Franchise player, our defensive system only works with him and he's a team player. Nothing matters without A.

B. Go all in for Durant. If that fails..

C. Look at the trade market.

D. Free agency market. Not that ample. See if Grant could convince Deng to leave Miami or Green to leave LAC.

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I don't think you want Jeff Green

Give me the 411 on Green. I can't lie, I didn't watch Memphis much this year and he didn't stand out with LA to me. What do you think?

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[Rapcity_11]

The Hawks are basically Jazz of the East. They play an antiquated style that was played in 2009 by the Carlos Boozer and Deron teams and they have the same results of getting owned every year.

They made a mistake by giving Milsap a 20 mill per year deal.

29 other teams would be willing to fix that "mistake" and give up assets to make it happen.

[baldur]

Some teams are just content making the 2nd round year in and year out.

what do you suggest? 29 teams should rebuild every single year just because they didnt win the title?

[dalton749]

They need to find a way to get Murray in the draft. Perfect fit along side Schroeder as their future backcourt.

The last thing we need is a smaller backcourt to go with our small front court. I actually like Murray but not for this franchise.

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That was assuming you move on from this core

[inquisitive]

Teague likely will be on the block.

[Coeur]

Minny gives #5 pick, Bazz for Millsap. Hawks shed salary, get a young athletic wing stuck on the bench of a talented roster and get to have a top 5 pick. Wolves get good quick and Hawks rebuild moves along faster than expected

I played with this idea. Didn't think it could happen though. Would love to get Lavine as well some how.

Millsap, teague, korver
for
5, lavine, pekovic

[Austincys21]

You're only going yo ever win if you have a top 3 player or if you're the Detroit Pistons of 04.

I'd try my best to get into a top 5 pick and hope you land a star. That what every team should try and do.

If you don't have Curry, Lebron, Leonard, Davis, Durant, Westbrook, Lillard, or George your team will never sniff the finals

[AbC?]

They need to pull a Kawhii outta nowhere like the Spurs.

[BleedGreen1989]

Trade Teague or Dennis for a scoring wing, sign a back up guard and center (or a healthy Tiago).

Easy to say blow it up, but the Cavs are stupid good on this level. No sense in setting fire to the thing.

[Saul Goodman]

I always thought about going the YOLO F__K it route and went after Melo




Schroder
Splitter
Scott
Hawks 1st


for

Melo



resign Bazemore and Horford



Horford
Milsap
Melo
Baze
Teague

[KuruptedCav]

I don't think the Hawks shake if they can avoid it. They've build a good team and a great locker room. Any shake up by them is likely on the margins (trading Teague for a better fitting win-now asset and turning over the keys to DS.

Personally, I'd like to see them 1) leverage their locker room to invest in riskier players (see Lance Stephenson, JR Smith, etc), 2) invest more internationally to help create a pipeline,mane 3) try to develop a long-term cap plan that lets them swing for the fences in free agency regularly.

[Jagic Mohnson]

The Hawks are basically Jazz of the East. They play an antiquated style that was played in 2009 by the Carlos Boozer and Deron teams and they have the same results of getting owned every year.

They made a mistake by giving Milsap a 20 mill per year deal.

29 other teams would be willing to fix that "mistake" and give up assets to make it happen.

Would you give brandon bass 20 mill per year because that is who Milsap plays like. Check out the stats, defensive and offensive ratings.

[King Ken]

Minny gives #5 pick, Bazz for Millsap. Hawks shed salary, get a young athletic wing stuck on the bench of a talented roster and get to have a top 5 pick. Wolves get good quick and Hawks rebuild moves along faster than expected

I played with this idea. Didn't think it could happen though. Would love to get Lavine as well some how.

Teague
for
lavine

This would be an interesting deal.

[King Ken]

I always thought about going the YOLO F__K it route and went after Melo




Schroder
Splitter
Scott
Hawks 1st


for

Melo



resign Bazemore and Horford



Horford
Milsap
Melo
Baze
Teague

No way this works money wise. No way.

They made a mistake by giving Milsap a 20 mill per year deal.

29 other teams would be willing to fix that "mistake" and give up assets to make it happen.

Would you give brandon bass 20 mill per year because that is who Milsap plays like. Check out the stats, defensive and offensive ratings.

[steamed hams]

Some teams are just content making the 2nd round year in and year out.

Well, it's kind of hard to beat a team with Lebron James on it

[RollingWave]

Winning a title without a top 5 player is basically impossible, and preferably top 2 player really, in reality, at least 25 teams don't have a shot at all for the title every year.

Sometimes, you have to realize those players either fall on to your lap or they don't, trying to play the odds too much and you end up as the Sixers or worse, your team gets moved / contracted.

I'd say the Hawks should just leave well enough alone, nobody's beating the Cavs without getting Steph or Durant on their team (and even if you do get Durant , it's an even bet at best.) would moving Horford somehow increase the odds of that?