Has your view of Mark Cuban changed?

[LivingLegend]

Heres the good part about Cuban and the only thing you can ask for as a fan of the Mavs.

He tries and he cares. End of story.

He may have given out some terrible contracts to players, but he is trying to make moves to be competitive. I love that if I were a fan of the team. He wants to win and will make moves to try to put the team in position to win. Despite moves not working out all the time, it is so much better knowing your owner/gm is trying then having him remain neutral and becoming a treadmill team that is mediocre and they are okay with that.

[Leslie Forman]

His main asset is luck. He got lucky people were dumb as balls looking for any gimmick they could during the internet boom, and he got lucky buying an NBA team that had Dirk Nowitzki on it.

If he had bought the Cubs, they absolutely would not be in the World Series. They would have done stupid things like sign Albert Pujols. He's a hack who just happens to be willing to spend and wants to win.

And you know what? That's fine. I'd sure take that over frickin' Jerry Reinsdorf.

[2011Champs]

His main asset is luck. He got lucky people were dumb as balls looking for any gimmick they could during the internet boom, and he got lucky buying an NBA team that had Dirk Nowitzki on it.

If he had bought the Cubs, they absolutely would not be in the World Series. They would have done stupid things like sign Albert Pujols. He's a hack who just happens to be willing to spend and wants to win.

I tend to agree with this. Lately Cubans main two concerns are Shark Tank and getting Crooked Hillary elected. Cuban should turn over all basketball decisions to his GM and just watch the games as a fan. How in the world do you pass on Giannis in the draft to save a tiny amount of cap space for a free agent he knows good and well won't sign in Dallas. It's one bad decision after another whether it's overpaying bad free agents or not even trying to draft good players or trading for Rondo when it's was clear he would'nt fit in here.

[JellosJigglin]

Yes. Ever since he became a Hillary shill last year I can't stand hearing his voice. He should sell his stakes as Mavs owner and concentrate on politics and money markets instead. Right now, he's so desperate to draw talent that he overpaid for Barnes who made 3.8 million last season ( gave him the Max) & he's telegraphing his desire to sign Demarcus Cousins 2 years from now. That's pretty desperate.

I'm sure it'll come out at some point that he "donated" to her pay-to-play foundation. Personally I would disavow my team if the owner was as outspoken about supporting a criminal like Hillary.

[el13adnino]

cuban is satisfied just making the playoffs until dirk retires, then a true rebuild will be enforced.

[jpengland]

Yes. Ever since he became a Hillary shill last year I can't stand hearing his voice. He should sell his stakes as Mavs owner and concentrate on politics and money markets instead. Right now, he's so desperate to draw talent that he overpaid for Barnes who made 3.8 million last season ( gave him the Max) & he's telegraphing his desire to sign Demarcus Cousins 2 years from now. That's pretty desperate.

I'm sure it'll come out at some point that he "donated" to her pay-to-play foundation. Personally I would disavow my team if the owner was as outspoken about supporting a criminal like Hillary.

And if your owner supported a tax avoiding, racist, sexual abuser?

I dont think an owners political leanings should reflect on the ability to run a basketball franchise.

[blind prophet]

Always thought highly of him.

When he first came into the league there were a few jokes about a (dot)com guy, but he quickly proved himself and seemed like a lot more fun than what we were used to.

Last few years he's been douchy though.

[JellosJigglin]

Yes. Ever since he became a Hillary shill last year I can't stand hearing his voice. He should sell his stakes as Mavs owner and concentrate on politics and money markets instead. Right now, he's so desperate to draw talent that he overpaid for Barnes who made 3.8 million last season ( gave him the Max) & he's telegraphing his desire to sign Demarcus Cousins 2 years from now. That's pretty desperate.

I'm sure it'll come out at some point that he "donated" to her pay-to-play foundation. Personally I would disavow my team if the owner was as outspoken about supporting a criminal like Hillary.

And if your owner supported a tax avoiding

Avoiding taxes is not illegal. It's the reason accountants exist. Tax laws are complicated and as long as people are acting within those laws then I don't have an issue with it. If you've owned real estate for more than 10 years then you've probably filed a loss at some point. I know I did after the bubble burst. If you aren't happy with the laws, then get involved and change them (Hillary's policies are only going to make the tax structure even more complicated).

, racist

That's an opinion. I'm a brown skinned minority and have never been offended by his comments. He's not a "politician", which is just another word for a professional liar/criminal. He speaks his mind unlike members of the political establishment, who just say what you want to hear, and then act in their own best interests. Like Hillary, who speaks on women's rights, and then accepts millions of dollars from a country that legalized the rape, beating, and stoning of women. That is Crooked Hillary in a nutshell.

, sexual abuser?

Where's the evidence? Were you this quick to convict Rose, Duke Lacrosse, and Kobe?

Did it bother you when Billy boy took advantage of women, and abused his power with his intern? We actually have proof of those things happening. And we also have tape of Hillary shaming her husband's victims and waving them off. Some advocate she is.

I dont think an owners political leanings should reflect on the ability to run a basketball franchise.

It's not a question of what kind of owner he can be. I just happen to place my political beliefs above sports. If the Buss family came out and acted like a clown on the political stage the way Cuban has I'd be done with the Lakers after 30 years of being a fan. Obviously this happens with age. When I was younger I was a democrat and not really politically engaged, so it wouldn't have bothered me.

[Edrees]

The Mavs have been making the playoffs year after year. that's more than most teams can do even when they aren't sending off their HOFer.

[erudite23]

Seeing him shill for Hillary Clinton has really made me lose respect for him.

Basketball wise I think you get what you see with him. He'll pay for a winner and he cares about his star players. He's not as unique as he used to be and quite frankly I think he is less of an asset to his franchise as a result.

[PopAGat]

I've never changed the way I think of Cuban.

I think he's one of the best owners in the league in terms of how he functions, operates, and his involvement. He's very passionate which is what I really like about him. I wouldn't put the awful contracts Dallas has given out on him, I say that's more management. They've done a poor job of selling Dallas and their culture to Free Agents.

They have one of the (if not best) owners in the league and one of the top 5 coaches in the league. That being said, when it comes to recruiting/front office stuff, I think that's where they've suffered. If I was a player, I'd love to play for Dallas. You get first class treatment, first class coach and a good fan base.

[Cappy_Smurf]

Seeing him shill for Hillary Clinton has really made me lose respect for him.

I'm not a fan of Hillary at all, however, it's extremely important as Americans to do everything necessary to avoid having that steaming pile of crap, pussy grabbing, overgrown oompa loompa creep anywhere near the Whitehouse. Unfortunately, the only way to do so is to support Hillary.

#NeverChesterTheMolester

[Pennebaker]

So 6 or 7 years ago, almost every fan base would have loved him as their teams owner, has that changed?

I don't think that's true at all. I don't know anyone who ever really respected Mark Cuban.

[bondom34]

So 6 or 7 years ago, almost every fan base would have loved him as their teams owner, has that changed?

I don't think that's true at all. I don't know anyone who ever really respected Mark Cuban.

I do, and would still love him, ton of respect.

[Heat_team02]

Seeing him shill for Hillary Clinton has really made me lose respect for him.

I'm not a fan of Hillary at all, however, it's extremely important as Americans to do everything necessary to avoid having that steaming pile of crap, pussy grabbing, overgrown oompa loompa creep anywhere near the Whitehouse. Unfortunately, the only way to do so is to support Hillary.

#NeverChesterTheMolester

Stereotypes don't win votes & doesn't win CNN & cable any favors either.

[Texas Chuck]

Odd for people to hate him for being active politically recently. Regardless of your personal feelings about the candidates, its just an odd criticism. And if you have been following the Cuban timeline he started out being somewhat supportive of the Trump candidacy. It wasn't until he realized that Trump had no ideas that he switched to campaigning against him(he's more anti-Trump than pro-Hillary if you go by his comments fwiw).

I get he's a divisive figure. A lot of people can't handle guys who speak their mind and don't "stay in their place". But frankly that's a poor reflection on those critics than on Mark. Is he highly annoying a lot? Of course he is. Do I agree with everything he says or doesn't? Of course not. But he's been perhaps the most important owner over the last 15 years in a lot of the positive changes to the Association and his presence has influenced other smart new owners to come into the league.

Set aside his personality and its pretty obvious what a boon he has been to the Association and obviously to the Mavericks organization which went from competing with the Sterling Clippers for the worst in sports to clearly being one of the best handful of organizations in the NBA.

[Ascrilas]

Okay, seeing so many positive posts about him as an owner from a basketball point, as an avid Mavericks sympathizer I will state the following: The Mavericks' front office - which of course does not entirely consist of Cuban, but has him as the most influential voice - is the most overrated front office in the league and will be painfully exposed in the next decade.

There is exactly one reason for the continuous success during the Cuban era: Dirk Nowitzki. That's it.

And having him, they also managed to get their second essential asset, Rick Carlisle. But the cornerstone of every Mavericks achievement in the last 18 years has been Dirk, one of the most gifted, consistent and loyal superstars of all time which covered up how much Dallas was lacking in many aspects.

Everybody is focused on Cuban's decisions post 2011, I actually think he had the right read on the situation but just didn't manage to pull it off correctly: The Mavs' core was aging and over-performing, plus many of the role players were due to a big payday; if you want to contend for a championship again and want to avoid paying inflated salaries for glorified semi-scrubs (sorry JJ), you have to break it up. But: Instead of questioning why he broke up the team, one should ask how they managed to get into such a situation in the first place. Yes, they won the title, but this was basically mostly Dirk's one-man show, let's not pretend the roster (not taking Dirk into consideration) was any special - sure, many nice pieces, but in the end still a bunch of useful role players on the wrong side of 30.

I mean, just look athow many All-Stars Dirk played with during his prime (so not counting Finley in 2000 and 2001): Most prominently, of course, Steve Nash in 2002 and 2003. Too bad Cuban sent him away, what a moronic decision. Sure, both Dirk and Nash may have not ended up being what they eventually became had they stayed together, but who really knows, let's not forget, they were in the Conference Finals in '03 and lost to the Spurs in 6 close games (the Eastern Conference was a bit of a cakewalk as usual, I think it's fair to say the Mavs would've had realistic chances to beat the Nets) despite losing Dirk to a injury after Game 3.
After 2003, let's count it down: Josh Howard in 2007 as an injury replacement, Jason Kidd in 2010, again as an injury replacement, whether any of them, especially Howard, was worthy of the recognition or was just included due to excellent team record may be doubted. And that's it.

So, really, are you kidding me? Peak Dirk had to play with such mediocrity, most of his teammates were just trash. What a great roster they built around Dirk in 2006 and 2007, with Jason Terry as their second best player! (No offense, I love JET.) Let's not forget a starting line-up with Devin Harris and Erick Dampier, too, plus Keith Van Horn, Marquis Daniels and DeSagana Diop off the bench.
When talking about the lacking influx of talent, their draft history should get brief mention, too, as it is simply an atrocity. Sure, the Mavs never had high picks and didn't value them, but even only by sheer chance they should've stumbled across a useful player some time. This rarely happened. And if it did, they sent him away anyway, see Jae Crowder.

Now obviously, I am exaggerating a bit. The Mavs' front office is not that bad, but I still fail to see what they have really accomplished except riding Dirk's greatness until the bitter end. How are people surprised that Cuban did not manage to surround Dirk with premium talent after 2011 when he failed to do so in the 10 years before?

[NeoWarriors]

I used to love Cuban when he first bought the Mavs... I was a Don Nelson loyalist so I was already on board. But after he fired Nellie I had to turn on him... that made We Believe that much better for me. Also watching him dismantle the 2011 championship team gave me a sense of schadenfreude. But since he started trolling Trump... I'm back to liking him again.

[erudite23]

Seeing him shill for Hillary Clinton has really made me lose respect for him.

I'm not a fan of Hillary at all, however, it's extremely important as Americans to do everything necessary to avoid having that steaming pile of crap, pussy grabbing, overgrown oompa loompa creep anywhere near the Whitehouse. Unfortunately, the only way to do so is to support Hillary.

#NeverChesterTheMolester

Haha, it's funny you should say that. I feel the exact same way....except in reverse. Whatever you think of Donald Trump, he's better than Hillary and all of her lies, corruption and special interests. Not a huge fan of the Donald. But I hate Hillary.

Also, my original comment wasn't so much that he's a shill for Hillary herself. I mean, it bothers me but whatever. It's that he has compromised his own credibility in doing it. His tweets are purposefully misleading and twisting the facts in a way I didn't ever expect to see out of Cuban. I thought of him as a highly intelligent guy who was committed to American principles like capitalism, innovation, entrepreneurship, and free thought. In his support for Hillary, he's disabused me of those notions. He's shown himself to be more of a politician than a business man. I'll never look at him the same way.

[2011Champs]

Seeing him shill for Hillary Clinton has really made me lose respect for him.

I'm not a fan of Hillary at all, however, it's extremely important as Americans to do everything necessary to avoid having that steaming pile of crap, pussy grabbing, overgrown oompa loompa creep anywhere near the Whitehouse. Unfortunately, the only way to do so is to support Hillary.

#NeverChesterTheMolester

There are other options than Hillary and Trump however you and most Americans are much too lazy to do some research and vote for a candidate that is not Republican or Democrat because you don't want to "throw your vote away ". It's obvious that both Trump and Clinton are horrible candidates so why throw away a vote on either? If EVERYONE that felt that way gave their vote to Gary Johnson,Jill Stein or even a grassroots write in candidate then everyone's vote WOULD count. People are not smart enough to realize that. People have to vote for whoever their favorite celebrity or TV news station tells them to vote for leading to the continuation of the failed corrupt two party system.