Why did Magic Johnson call Russell Westbrook the Worst PG In Finals History back in 2012??

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Re: Why did Magic Johnson call Russell Westbrook the Worst PG In Finals History back in 2012?? 

Post#41 » by PhilBlackson » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:31 pm

Because LaVar tipped him off that his son would be better than Russ and a Laker.
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Re: Why did Magic Johnson call Russell Westbrook the Worst PG In Finals History back in 2012?? 

Post#42 » by Bobalob » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:32 pm

Lalouie wrote:Because he didn't get how the NBA guards were trending. But he had since done a complete 180. You know,,, kinda like how Warren Buffet admitted he didn't understand Amazon and he missed the boat.


This is 1 instance where the incorrect phrase---"he did a complete 360"---would actually be appropriate lol

Westbrook hasnt changed 1 bit
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Re: Why did Magic Johnson call Russell Westbrook the Worst PG In Finals History back in 2012?? 

Post#43 » by lilswift01 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 6:51 pm

He was out of control in that series, but at least he played with heart. Can't say the same for James Harden.
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Re: RE: Re: Why did Magic Johnson call Russell Westbrook the Worst PG In Finals History back in 2012?? 

Post#44 » by G35 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:09 pm

Ryoga Hibiki wrote:
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Prez wrote:Magic says a lot of stupid stuff.

Read on Twitter

Yeah but at the time MCW was looking promising.
That means that a NBA legend doesn't have more clue than an avg fan, in evaluating prospects.
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Wait a minute...isn't this a tad hypocritical?

What this means is that Magic Johnson's opinion is respected enough to make it onto national publications/websites.

Whereas here on REALGM we aren't allowed to go back and bring up people's old posts because it might trigger sensitivities. The average fan can say anything (and usually does) but no one cares.......
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Re: Why did Magic Johnson call Russell Westbrook the Worst PG In Finals History back in 2012?? 

Post#45 » by G35 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:12 pm

lilswift01 wrote:He was out of control in that series, but at least he played with heart. Can't say the same for James Harden.



I think its funny that Durant was expected to beat the Lebron and the Cavaliers that year when he had out of control Westbrook and James "Not big game" Harden as his support, while Lebron had Wade and Bosh. Not to mention OKC was super young and their first time going to the finals.

Nobody tends to sympathize with Durant in this situation.......
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Re: Why did Magic Johnson call Russell Westbrook the Worst PG In Finals History back in 2012?? 

Post#46 » by Dupp » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:12 pm

Because magic is the worst analyst in finals history
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Re: Why did Magic Johnson call Russell Westbrook the Worst PG In Finals History back in 2012?? 

Post#47 » by socal74 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:26 pm

NZB2323 wrote:It's funny that Magic criticizes Russel for taking too many shots and being inefficient but he has nothing but praise for Kobe Bryant.

2012 Russel Westbrook in the Finals: .500 TS% , 27 points per game, 6 assists per game, 6.4 rebounds per game, 2.2 turnovers per game.

2004 Kobe Bryant in the Finals: .456 TS%, 22.6 Points per game, 4.4 assists per game, 2.8 rebounds per game, 3.6 turnovers per game.


Nice cherry picking. Why dont you put up Lebrons 2011 FInals also since Magic complimented him too. Stop **** comparing dudes who' has won multiple championships to a guy that has won 0
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Re: Why did Magic Johnson call Russell Westbrook the Worst PG In Finals History back in 2012?? 

Post#48 » by Lalouie » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:50 pm

Bobalob wrote:
Lalouie wrote:Because he didn't get how the NBA guards were trending. But he had since done a complete 180. You know,,, kinda like how Warren Buffet admitted he didn't understand Amazon and he missed the boat.


This is 1 instance where the incorrect phrase---"he did a complete 360"---would actually be appropriate lol

Westbrook hasnt changed 1 bit


It's like people don't know geometry or something. 180 takes you to the opposite end, 360 lands you back facing where you started... ;)
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Re: Why did Magic Johnson call Russell Westbrook the Worst PG In Finals History back in 2012?? 

Post#49 » by NZB2323 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 7:58 pm

socal74 wrote:
NZB2323 wrote:It's funny that Magic criticizes Russel for taking too many shots and being inefficient but he has nothing but praise for Kobe Bryant.

2012 Russel Westbrook in the Finals: .500 TS% , 27 points per game, 6 assists per game, 6.4 rebounds per game, 2.2 turnovers per game.

2004 Kobe Bryant in the Finals: .456 TS%, 22.6 Points per game, 4.4 assists per game, 2.8 rebounds per game, 3.6 turnovers per game.


Nice cherry picking. Why dont you put up Lebrons 2011 FInals also since Magic complimented him too. Stop **** comparing dudes who' has won multiple championships to a guy that has won 0


Lebron in the 2011 Finals wasn't aggressive enough, which is the opposite problem that Westbrook had. Also, Lebron had a TS% of 53%, Magic has spent way more time complimenting Kobe than Lebron, and Westbrook would have won multiple championships if he had been on the teams Kobe's been on.
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Re: Why did Magic Johnson call Russell Westbrook the Worst PG In Finals History back in 2012?? 

Post#50 » by Baski » Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:54 pm

He probably still ascribed to the traditional role of the pointguard at the time, and didn't like watching Westbrook the "PG" outshoot a much better scorer on bad efficiency instead of trying to set others up more, like Magic himself would.


Or he could just have been overreacting.
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Re: Why did Magic Johnson call Russell Westbrook the Worst PG In Finals History back in 2012?? 

Post#51 » by RSCD3_ » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:25 pm

VYoungJrIII wrote:
Prez wrote:Magic says a lot of stupid stuff.

Read on Twitter

Yeah but at the time MCW was looking promising.


Exactly magic is a guy who gives hot takes all the time and doesn't worry about what happens after.

It's just because he's usually smiling and is a nice guy, that people put more stock in what he says than they should
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Re: Why did Magic Johnson call Russell Westbrook the Worst PG In Finals History back in 2012?? 

Post#52 » by The Real Dalic » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:08 pm

G35 wrote:
lilswift01 wrote:He was out of control in that series, but at least he played with heart. Can't say the same for James Harden.



I think its funny that Durant was expected to beat the Lebron and the Cavaliers that year when he had out of control Westbrook and James "Not big game" Harden as his support, while Lebron had Wade and Bosh. Not to mention OKC was super young and their first time going to the finals.

Nobody tends to sympathize with Durant in this situation.......

You mean the Heat.
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Post#53 » by Jedi32 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:38 pm

Clay Davis wrote:
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Woodsanity wrote:Magic is very prone to overreactions and usually doesn't do his homework lol.


Funny you said he doesn't do his homework lol. My firend was in a staff meeting with Magic and Rob Pelinka pre-draft and he said Magic told them he just started taking notes while he was watching March Madness. He kept stressing how much work he is doing now that he is the head of operations or what ever his title is, but all he was doing was looking up stats on current players and watching march madness.

He also said all Pelinka did was talk about how the Lakers are a global brand and told them about things Kobe told him on the phone the last couple times they talked, but nothing about GM'ing. For those that don't know Pelinka only has his job because Magic and Jeannie Buss offered it to Kobe and he said he didn't want to do it. He told them to hire Pelinka.

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Re: Why did Magic Johnson call Russell Westbrook the Worst PG In Finals History back in 2012?? 

Post#54 » by Black Jack » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:39 pm

That's outrageous. Russ should absolutely not consider signing with the Lakers due to this travesty
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Re: Why did Magic Johnson call Russell Westbrook the Worst PG In Finals History back in 2012?? 

Post#55 » by Black Jack » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:43 pm

That's outrageous. Russ should absolutely not consider signing with the Lakers due to these horrible comments by Magic about him. we should keep this thread bumped yall
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