The raptors were elite all along

[NashtyNas]

My Warriors are the only team that can handle LeBron.

Yup. KD is the equalizer.


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Wrong. Houston would sweep Cleveland or beat them in 5 at the most. Also Boston is going to win the series. Real Gm is an absolute joke when it comes to overreactions and hot takes after one game.

Houston barely beat the T-Wolves & Jazz and have no answer for KD on a nightly basis, but they could sweep LeBron & the Cavs or "at most" beat them in 5? I like this take, it's not at all a hot takerito.

I don't think the Cavs have a shot against the W's but let's not act like Houston is a good enough team to sweep LeBron. Yeah, they can score a lot of points, but they can't defend me if I was on that court and I'm a cool 5'10, 130 with no handle. LeBron would do to the Rockets what he did to the Raptors, and they probably have no answer for him. Since we're going with the hot takeritos and all.

[jonjames]

Yup. KD is the equalizer.


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Wrong. Houston would sweep Cleveland or beat them in 5 at the most. Also Boston is going to win the series. Real Gm is an absolute joke when it comes to overreactions and hot takes after one game.

Houston barely beat the T-Wolves & Jazz and have no answer for KD on a nightly basis, but they could sweep LeBron & the Cavs or "at most" beat them in 5? I like this take, it's not at all a hot takerito.

I don't think the Cavs have a shot against the W's but let's not act like Houston is a good enough team to sweep LeBron. Yeah, they can score a lot of points, but they can't defend me if I was on that court and I'm a cool 5'10, 130 with no handle. LeBron would do to the Rockets what he did to the Raptors, and they probably have no answer for him. Since we're going with the hot takeritos and all.

Barely beat? I think you better get your facts straight. Houston beat the Wolves in 5 with an average point differential of +15 in their 4 wins. And against Utah Houston won in 5 with an average point differential of +14.5 in their 4 wins. Also let's not act like the series is over against Golden State. Houston can still win the series and if they do you can bet your butt they will win it all. Agaisnt Cleveland Houston won the season series 2-0 including a 32 point beatdown AT Cleveland handing them by far Cleveland's worst loss at home this season.

The Cavs are hot garbage this season. This is not a hot take. This is the truth. Last year they went 12-1 during the East Playoffs. This year they're 10-5. They won't even get past the Celtics this week. Watch.

[Kilmonger]

Highly doubt anyone on that Celtics team is scared of Lebron. They just can't guard him, no matter how brave they are. And that includes Markus "Lebron Stopper" Morris who already got 40 dropped on him twice now.

[NashtyNas]

Barely beat? I think you better get your facts straight. Houston beat the Wolves in 5 with an average point differential of +15 in their 4 wins. And against Utah Houston won in 5 with an average point differential of +14.5 in their 4 wins. Also let's not act like the series is over against Golden State. Houston can still win the series and if they do you can bet your butt they will win it all. Agaisnt Cleveland Houston won the season series 2-0 including a 32 point beatdown AT Cleveland handing them by far Cleveland's worst loss at home this season.

The Cavs are hot garbage this season. This is not a hot take. This is the truth. Last year they went 12-1 during the East Playoffs. This year they're 10-5. They won't even get past the Celtics this week. Watch.

If 10-5 this year is "hot garbage" then what is 9-4?

Last time I checked, the Raptors were the #1 seed in the East and play a game eerily similar to the Rockets - the Rockets just have slightly better players with a similarly bad playoff performance resume.

I'd love a sig bet regarding the bolded parts - what do you say?

Highly doubt anyone on that Celtics team is scared of Lebron. They just can't guard him, no matter how brave they are. And that includes Markus "Lebron Stopper" Morris who already got 40 dropped on him twice now.

Yeah, I agree with this for the most part. No one (or even two) player(s) in the league can stop LeBron defensively, especially not these guys because they just don't have the size or experience at the moment. Morris plays him as well as anyone can in terms of physicality but there just isn't anyone that can stop LeBron - period. That doesn't mean they're scared of him - and neither does the fact that they got blown off the floor in both these games.

The C's have been atrocious on the road all playoffs long - the only reason they got 1 in Philly is because the Sixers handed it to them on a silver platter.

[Kilmonger]

Highly doubt anyone on that Celtics team is scared of Lebron. They just can't guard him, no matter how brave they are. And that includes Markus "Lebron Stopper" Morris who already got 40 dropped on him twice now.

Yeah, I agree with this for the most part. No one (or even two) player(s) in the league can stop LeBron defensively, especially not these guys because they just don't have the size or experience at the moment. Morris plays him as well as anyone can in terms of physicality but there just isn't anyone that can stop LeBron - period. That doesn't mean they're scared of him - and neither does the fact that they got blown off the floor in both these games.

The C's have been atrocious on the road all playoffs long - the only reason they got 1 in Philly is because the Sixers handed it to them on a silver platter.

Morris can match him for the most part in physicality but what makes Lebron unfair is that Morris can't match his speed. Not even close.

The only guy in the league who can give Lebron REAL problems is didn't even play a single game this season. And maybe you can throw in Iggy for spurts of a game. I mean, Iggy has a Finals MVP trophy sitting in his house right now because he guarded Lebron well (for the most part) lol.

[ooptolebron]

Barely beat? I think you better get your facts straight. Houston beat the Wolves in 5 with an average point differential of +15 in their 4 wins. And against Utah Houston won in 5 with an average point differential of +14.5 in their 4 wins. Also let's not act like the series is over against Golden State. Houston can still win the series and if they do you can bet your butt they will win it all. Agaisnt Cleveland Houston won the season series 2-0 including a 32 point beatdown AT Cleveland handing them by far Cleveland's worst loss at home this season.

The Cavs are hot garbage this season. This is not a hot take. This is the truth. Last year they went 12-1 during the East Playoffs. This year they're 10-5. They won't even get past the Celtics this week. Watch.

If 10-5 this year is "hot garbage" then what is 9-4?

Last time I checked, the Raptors were the #1 seed in the East and play a game eerily similar to the Rockets - the Rockets just have slightly better players with a similarly bad playoff performance resume.

I'd love a sig bet regarding the bolded parts - what do you say?

Highly doubt anyone on that Celtics team is scared of Lebron. They just can't guard him, no matter how brave they are. And that includes Markus "Lebron Stopper" Morris who already got 40 dropped on him twice now.

Yeah, I agree with this for the most part. No one (or even two) player(s) in the league can stop LeBron defensively, especially not these guys because they just don't have the size or experience at the moment. Morris plays him as well as anyone can in terms of physicality but there just isn't anyone that can stop LeBron - period. That doesn't mean they're scared of him - and neither does the fact that they got blown off the floor in both these games.

The C's have been atrocious on the road all playoffs long - the only reason they got 1 in Philly is because the Sixers handed it to them on a silver platter.

Difference between 10-5 and 9-4:

R1 -
Minny (KAT/Butler/Wiggins) 4-1 VS Pacers (Oladipo) 4-3

R2 -
Utah (One of the best defenses in the league) 4-1 VS Raptors (Lowry & Demar) 4-0

R3 -
Golden Fricken State (Curry/KD/klay/Dray) 2-1 VS Celtics (No Kyrie or Hayward) 2-2

[NashtyNas]

Difference between 10-5 and 9-4:

R1 -
Minny (KAT/Butler/Wiggins) 4-1 VS Pacers (Oladipo) 4-3

R2 -
Utah (One of the best defenses in the league) 4-1 VS Raptors (Lowry & Demar) 4-0

R3 -
Golden Fricken State (Curry/KD/klay/Dray) 2-1 VS Celtics (No Kyrie or Hayward) 2-2

1) The Wolves have a lot of issues and many of them begin with KAT & their headcoach. Meanwhile the Pacers took a LeBron team to 7 like they have in the past with George instead of Dipo.
2) Raptors were also one of the best defensive teams in the league (ahead of the Rockets!) and the #1 seed in the East, what's your point?
3) Boston without Kyrie and Hayward beat the Giannis lead Bucks and the Simmons/Embiid Sixers - they're a damn good team. Obviously not on the level of GSW.

What's your point, because I'm probably not smart enough to get it. I was simply trying to say that 10-5 is not "hot garbage" as that guy claimed. Maybe you've got an agenda against LeBron, though that doesn't make sense given your name.

Morris can match him for the most part in physicality but what makes Lebron unfair is that Morris can't match his speed. Not even close.

The only guy in the league who can give Lebron REAL problems is didn't even play a single game this season. And maybe you can throw in Iggy for spurts of a game. I mean, Iggy has a Finals MVP trophy sitting in his house right now because he guarded Lebron well (for the most part) lol.

Oh absolutely, Kawhi is definitely the only guy that can give LeBron real problems and even that isn't enough to stop him in any meaningful way. Iggy I don't agree with - yea he's got a Finals MVP that says that but honestly that Finals MVP only went to him because Curry disappeared in the Finals. Not to take anything away from what Iggy did, he was certainly excellent and frankly because of injuries, I don't think he's able to even mimic that performance anymore.

That series LeBron put up something ridiculous like 30/11/9 while having Delly as his 2nd best player and though Iggy did a fine job on him, GS threw everything including the kitchen sink at LeBron who was essentially carrying all of the Cavaliers on his back every time down the floor.

[Kilmonger]

Morris can match him for the most part in physicality but what makes Lebron unfair is that Morris can't match his speed. Not even close.

The only guy in the league who can give Lebron REAL problems is didn't even play a single game this season. And maybe you can throw in Iggy for spurts of a game. I mean, Iggy has a Finals MVP trophy sitting in his house right now because he guarded Lebron well (for the most part) lol.

Oh absolutely, Kawhi is definitely the only guy that can give LeBron real problems and even that isn't enough to stop him in any meaningful way. Iggy I don't agree with - yea he's got a Finals MVP that says that but honestly that Finals MVP only went to him because Curry disappeared in the Finals. Not to take anything away from what Iggy did, he was certainly excellent and frankly because of injuries, I don't think he's able to even mimic that performance anymore.

That series LeBron put up something ridiculous like 30/11/9 while having Delly as his 2nd best player and though Iggy did a fine job on him, GS threw everything including the kitchen sink at LeBron who was essentially carrying all of the Cavaliers on his back every time down the floor.

It's funny how different things could have been if Kyrie and Love weren't injured in 2015 and the Cavs ended up winning back to back in 15 and 16. I bet Durant would have gone to Boston.

[mowcrowbar]

OP seriously makes the worst threads imaginable.

[Unbiased hater]

Barely beat? I think you better get your facts straight. Houston beat the Wolves in 5 with an average point differential of +15 in their 4 wins. And against Utah Houston won in 5 with an average point differential of +14.5 in their 4 wins. Also let's not act like the series is over against Golden State. Houston can still win the series and if they do you can bet your butt they will win it all. Agaisnt Cleveland Houston won the season series 2-0 including a 32 point beatdown AT Cleveland handing them by far Cleveland's worst loss at home this season.

The Cavs are hot garbage this season. This is not a hot take. This is the truth. Last year they went 12-1 during the East Playoffs. This year they're 10-5. They won't even get past the Celtics this week. Watch.

If 10-5 this year is "hot garbage" then what is 9-4?

Last time I checked, the Raptors were the #1 seed in the East and play a game eerily similar to the Rockets - the Rockets just have slightly better players with a similarly bad playoff performance resume.

I'd love a sig bet regarding the bolded parts - what do you say?

Highly doubt anyone on that Celtics team is scared of Lebron. They just can't guard him, no matter how brave they are. And that includes Markus "Lebron Stopper" Morris who already got 40 dropped on him twice now.

Yeah, I agree with this for the most part. No one (or even two) player(s) in the league can stop LeBron defensively, especially not these guys because they just don't have the size or experience at the moment. Morris plays him as well as anyone can in terms of physicality but there just isn't anyone that can stop LeBron - period. That doesn't mean they're scared of him - and neither does the fact that they got blown off the floor in both these games.

The C's have been atrocious on the road all playoffs long - the only reason they got 1 in Philly is because the Sixers handed it to them on a silver platter.

Rockets have better main guys, better starters and better role players, had more success then Raptors in regular season and in playoff but you still compare them. Just gap between Harden and CP and Derozan and Lowry is enough for everyone with a minimum basketball knowledge to stop with things that you do .

[Unbiased hater]

Highly doubt anyone on that Celtics team is scared of Lebron. They just can't guard him, no matter how brave they are. And that includes Markus "Lebron Stopper" Morris who already got 40 dropped on him twice now.

Yeah, I agree with this for the most part. No one (or even two) player(s) in the league can stop LeBron defensively, especially not these guys because they just don't have the size or experience at the moment. Morris plays him as well as anyone can in terms of physicality but there just isn't anyone that can stop LeBron - period. That doesn't mean they're scared of him - and neither does the fact that they got blown off the floor in both these games.

The C's have been atrocious on the road all playoffs long - the only reason they got 1 in Philly is because the Sixers handed it to them on a silver platter.

Morris can match him for the most part in physicality but what makes Lebron unfair is that Morris can't match his speed. Not even close.

The only guy in the league who can give Lebron REAL problems is didn't even play a single game this season. And maybe you can throw in Iggy for spurts of a game. I mean, Iggy has a Finals MVP trophy sitting in his house right now because he guarded Lebron well (for the most part) lol.

Bogdanovic is good too

[Asian Celtic]

Page 1 of this thread made me . Despite the L we took today. Raptor threads are still the best IMO.

[Asian Celtic]

This thread was gold until some posters took it serious.

[MagicMadness]

If the Raps got to the Finals in a Lebron-less East, they'd find a way to lose in 3 to KD & Curry.

Or to a LeBron/Harden/Paul team.

[Topher]

OP seriously makes the worst threads imaginable.

He’s by far the worst poster on the raptors board.

[metafisical]

My Raps are elite...at being mediocre. Let's face it. We went all in with DeFrozen, Lousy, and 40 year old Ibaka and got swept twice by Cleveland. That is our ceiling.

I am just eager to see how we do against Boston, Philly or Indiana next season.

[RoyceDa59]

Raptors are just missing 3 key ingredients:

- Top 5 player in the league
- Top 10 complimentary superstar
- Head Coach

Then we can compete with the big boys..

[red96]

My Warriors are the only team that can handle LeBron.

Naw, I think a few other teams in the west could handle him. Its not like he hasn't lost to teams other than the Warriors, its just the east thing my dude.

[John Murdoch]

The battered wife syndrome of Raps have 2 end , getting unbearable on the gen board

[JonFromVA]

My Warriors are the only team that can handle LeBron.

Not so much (33/12/10 last go 'round), but we know on paper they should be able to outscore and outdefend James' teammates.

The whole story of the Cavs in the playoffs this year isn't about LeBron, it's about how quickly his teammates can come up to speed after a horrific regular season and support him. Love took a step backwards when he re-injured his thumb, but with Thompson, Smith, Korver, Hill, and Nance Jr stepping up ... it's a very different team. If Lue unwraps Osman or figures out how to get anything out of Clarkson or Hood ... watch out.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves, the next step for those guys is to show up .vs the Celtics in Boston and deal with the adversity of the refs calls tilting back towards green.