Why Aren't The Suns Being Talked About As A Max FA Destination?

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Re: Why Aren't The Suns Being Talked About As A Max FA Destination? 

Post#41 » by KHRICH » Sun May 27, 2018 4:58 pm

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Arizona is beautiful. We're not talking about Arizona though. We're talking Phoenix specifically

The team plays in Arizona...


One needs to travel quite a bit out of Phoenix to tap into Arizona's natural beauty. Phoenix itself is nothing. It's a gigantic, sprawling, exhausted cookie cutter suburb.

Seriously guys, visit some of these places prior to passing judgement on them.

Are you brain dead I have been to Arizona, I think your trolling done responding to you.
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Re: Why Aren't The Suns Being Talked About As A Max FA Destination? 

Post#42 » by Cyrusman122000 » Sun May 27, 2018 5:18 pm

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Arizona is beautiful. We're not talking about Arizona though. We're talking Phoenix specifically


Phoenix itself is pretty boring but Tempe (ASU) is awesome for young players, Scottsdale is nice and a lot of rich/famous people have homes in Paradise Valley (which is absolutely gorgeous). I think Shaq and Barkley still have homes there. The heat is kind of rough in the summer but many players don't live in their team's city during the offseason anyways and it's beautiful during the NBA season months.


Tempe is pretty rad. Scottsdale is like my worst nightmare, personally. I like Tucson a lot. And Bisbee is a total gem of the southwest. I'd retire there without thinking twice.


Why is Scottsdale your worst nightmare? That place is awesome! So much to do and it's beautiful. Not to mention a **** load of beautiful down to earth girls
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Re: Why Aren't The Suns Being Talked About As A Max FA Destination? 

Post#43 » by Cyrusman122000 » Sun May 27, 2018 5:21 pm

Papi_swav wrote:I always wanted to take a vacation trip to Arizona for like a week. I don't know what's out there besides desert and heat.


I highly recommended it! So much to see. The Phoenix area is real fun especially if you stay in Scottsdale, or Tempe. Old town Scottsdale and downtown Scottsdale is awesome for day and nightlife. So much hiking and walking trails. If you drive 2 hours north you can see Sedona which is beautiful red rock country, and flagstaff which is in the forest. Then there's the Grand Canyon
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Re: Why Aren't The Suns Being Talked About As A Max FA Destination? 

Post#44 » by GameBredAPBT » Sun May 27, 2018 5:23 pm

KHRICH wrote:
GameBredAPBT wrote::roll:
KHRICH wrote:The team plays in Arizona...


One needs to travel quite a bit out of Phoenix to tap into Arizona's natural beauty. Phoenix itself is nothing. It's a gigantic, sprawling, exhausted cookie cutter suburb.

Seriously guys, visit some of these places prior to passing judgement on them.

Are you brain dead I have been to Arizona, I think your trolling done responding to you.


Calm yourself. Phoenix does not /=/ Arizona. It's widely considered a blemish on the state by Arizonians. Anyone who's spent any time in the state would know this. Arizona is a massive state with miserable areas, glorious areas, desolate areas, well populated areas with cool stuff, whitewashed, conservative cultural dead zones, and everything in between. Generalizing any state is completely ridiculous.
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Re: Why Aren't The Suns Being Talked About As A Max FA Destination? 

Post#45 » by GameBredAPBT » Sun May 27, 2018 5:24 pm

Cyrusman122000 wrote:
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Phoenix itself is pretty boring but Tempe (ASU) is awesome for young players, Scottsdale is nice and a lot of rich/famous people have homes in Paradise Valley (which is absolutely gorgeous). I think Shaq and Barkley still have homes there. The heat is kind of rough in the summer but many players don't live in their team's city during the offseason anyways and it's beautiful during the NBA season months.


Tempe is pretty rad. Scottsdale is like my worst nightmare, personally. I like Tucson a lot. And Bisbee is a total gem of the southwest. I'd retire there without thinking twice.


Why is Scottsdale your worst nightmare? That place is awesome! So much to do and it's beautiful. Not to mention a **** load of beautiful down to earth girls


It's just not my speed at all. So generic & yupped out. I much prefer Tuscon/Bisbee.
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Re: Why Aren't The Suns Being Talked About As A Max FA Destination? 

Post#46 » by nedleeds » Sun May 27, 2018 5:25 pm

Because they have **** up their draft so badly they have basically no compelling young stars to play with. Perhaps if they draft Doncic this year and don't screw it up with Ayton they can salvage things.

2012 - Kendall Marshall #13 ... out of the league
2013 - Alex Len at **** #5 ... renounced and incinerated as though they never had a pick
2014 - TJ Warren at #14 ... rotation wing who shoots 22% from 3 after his 4th year in the league
2015 - Devin Booker at at #13 ... a good pick and maybe the best reason to come play here. If he had a good PG or creator you'd think he could be a more positive player and less of a chucker. Doesn't play defense, but not for lack of size or athleticism.
2016 - Dragan Bender at #4 and threw Bogdan, Skal and Papa-G to move up and take Chriss. Chriss is the dumbest knucklehead I've ever seen in team sports history. A Morriss twin with none of their basketball skills. Bender is a least not mentally impaired, but hasn't shown a ton he's barely 21 though. Again nothing any free agent is going to consider an asset.
2017 - Josh Jackson at #4 ... another medium size wing who can't hit water with an oar. Unplayable offensive player whose defense amounted to a -1.2 DPM. His form is wretched and broken, barring a massive overhaul he'll never be an average shooter. Sign me up to throw passes to that guy in the corner.

Constantly being in the lottery and never having an all star come from it is why.
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Re: Why Aren't The Suns Being Talked About As A Max FA Destination? 

Post#47 » by 510TWSS » Sun May 27, 2018 5:27 pm

Plenty of players enjoy playing in Phx. It’s just no player in his prime would choose Phx if another team closer to playoff contention were offering similar money.

If Phx has a surprise playoff run and max money then maybe they’d get a meeting. No guarantees though until the culture changes from team that got blown out by 40+ multiple times to up and comer.

Let’s also not forget that Phx has a problem with stars wanting out early with Dragic and Bledsoe both piping up to get themselves traded away.
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Re: Why Aren't The Suns Being Talked About As A Max FA Destination? 

Post#48 » by Cactus Jack » Sun May 27, 2018 5:29 pm

The weather in Phoenix from October-May is great. Perfect for an NBA player. It's also relatively cheap too.
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Post#49 » by GameBredAPBT » Sun May 27, 2018 5:32 pm

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KHRICH wrote:Whats wrong with PHX? I understand players not going to that losing culture as of late but the location itself is wonderful.


How is Phoenix wonderful? Have you been?


Scottsdale in specific is what gives Phoenix appeal for athletes. Scottsdale is a fun city to be in if you like white girls and are rich. I also remember you made a poor comment about the landscape of LA, would recommend you go back to your community college and take a geography class


I lived in Pasadena for half a decade & went to school in Santa Barbara. I know LA & it's surroundings like the back of my hand. It was my first introduction to the United States (I'm born & raised in Southeast Italy).

Scottsdale is a generic Midwestern suburb relocated to the desert.. It's a bunch of conservative Midwestern transplants that constructed a bigger, more obnoxious Naperville, Illinois in Arizona. There are beautiful girls in lots & lots of different places.
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Re: Why Aren't The Suns Being Talked About As A Max FA Destination? 

Post#50 » by Dominator83 » Sun May 27, 2018 5:35 pm

Because Steve Nash isn't available
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Re: Why Aren't The Suns Being Talked About As A Max FA Destination? 

Post#51 » by Cactus Jack » Sun May 27, 2018 5:50 pm

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thelarrybirdx wrote:They’re the worst team in the NBA and located in Phoenix lol. This isn’t rocket science


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Whats wrong with PHX? I understand players not going to that losing culture as of late but the location itself is wonderful.


As a Minnesotan, when people talk about the awful cold in the north, I always wonder why Phoenix doesn’t get a similarly bad rap. I genuinely enjoy snow and cold and much prefer it to heat. My brother lived in Phoenix for a few years. I visited him in August one time and I swear to god I thought I was going to die. Give me 20 degrees and snow over 100+ heat any day.

It's a dry heat tho. :wink:

I personally wouldn't live in Phoenix year-round. But, I have spent a lot of time in Sedona & have family in that area (which is beautiful). It doesn't get as hot as Phoenix in the Summer (90's mostly instead of 110 for 4 months lol).
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Re: Why Aren't The Suns Being Talked About As A Max FA Destination? 

Post#52 » by LivingLegend » Sun May 27, 2018 6:06 pm

Better question. why arnt the Nuggets being talked about as a FA destination considering they are just a better version of the Suns.

Add a Kawhi/George/LeBron to a lineup with Murray/Harris/Jokic/Millsap and you have a extremely good team.
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Re: Why Aren't The Suns Being Talked About As A Max FA Destination? 

Post#53 » by Karate Diop » Sun May 27, 2018 6:11 pm

LivingLegend wrote:Better question. why arnt the Nuggets being talked about as a FA destination considering they are just a better version of the Suns.

Add a Kawhi/George/LeBron to a lineup with Murray/Harris/Jokic/Millsap and you have a extremely good team.


No cap space and no real elite assets to trade.
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Post#54 » by Mischa » Sun May 27, 2018 6:52 pm

The summers are absolutely therapeutic here.
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Re: Why Aren't The Suns Being Talked About As A Max FA Destination? 

Post#55 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun May 27, 2018 6:55 pm

Scalabrine wrote:By renouncing the rights to Alex Len and Elfrid Payton and not picking up the option of Alan Williams and then getting rid of one of Dudley, Chandler or Knight by either stretching or trading (perhaps by attaching picks 16 or 31) the Suns create enough space for a max contract in free agency and have a roster of:

Ayton/Chandler/Bender
James/Chriss/Bender
Warren/Jackson
Jackson/Booker/Daniels
Booker/Knight/Ullis


This depth chart assumes they move Dudley and draft Ayton. Does not include picks 16 and 31 or any other signings they could make with the MLE and exceptions.

This roster is tailor-made for a LeBron led team. Inside presence who can control the paint, run the floor, and shoot. An athletic young, do it all, lights out shooter and future all-star (Booker) and then shooters/slashers everywhere else.

When you factor in the history of success with the Phoenix medical staff, this seems like a team that can let LeBron age gracefully, while still having an extremely young core to mold and still compete into his twilight years.

For all we hear about him leaving Cleveland, and the amount of hype young/unproven teams like the Sixers and Lakers get as destinations, the Suns seem like a way better fit in terms of skill set of the existing players. Im surprised we don't hear/read more about them as an option...


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Post#56 » by azcatz11 » Sun May 27, 2018 7:19 pm

There’s nothing wrong with PHX and surrounding areas. Great hiking, warm weather, great restaurants and the housing prices are still pretty reasonable.

Drive 2 hours north and you’re in Flagstaff or 5-6 hours west and you’re in southern CA. A lot of folks will often go to both locations on weekends in the summer to beat the heat.
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Re: Why Aren't The Suns Being Talked About As A Max FA Destination? 

Post#57 » by GYK » Sun May 27, 2018 8:33 pm

If they prove themselves they are a destination. Unproven talent and head coach. But they certainly could be a contender in the 2019 and 2020 free agency season. Maybe not stars as they will be much older or restricted but balance between Booker and the #1.
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Re: Why Aren't The Suns Being Talked About As A Max FA Destination? 

Post#58 » by Romeiro Celtic » Sun May 27, 2018 8:37 pm

Because the Suns are garbage and their front office/ownership is garbage as well.
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Post#59 » by Wilber85 » Sun May 27, 2018 8:40 pm

thelarrybirdx wrote:
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thelarrybirdx wrote:They’re the worst team in the NBA and located in Phoenix lol. This isn’t rocket science


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Whats wrong with PHX? I understand players not going to that losing culture as of late but the location itself is wonderful.


I didn’t really mean Phoenix was a bad spot. But if it’s not LA or New York I don’t see why a star would want to sign with such a **** team with a less than ideal marketplace to build their brand


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I have lived in San Diego, LA, Chicago, Phoenix, Florida, Philadelphia and now currently in Dallas

Phoenix is one of the best cities I have lived in! I would put Phoenix as a top 2 for places I have lived.
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Post#60 » by Wilber85 » Sun May 27, 2018 8:44 pm

nedleeds wrote:Because they have **** up their draft so badly they have basically no compelling young stars to play with. Perhaps if they draft Doncic this year and don't screw it up with Ayton they can salvage things.

2012 - Kendall Marshall #13 ... out of the league
2013 - Alex Len at **** #5 ... renounced and incinerated as though they never had a pick
2014 - TJ Warren at #14 ... rotation wing who shoots 22% from 3 after his 4th year in the league
2015 - Devin Booker at at #13 ... a good pick and maybe the best reason to come play here. If he had a good PG or creator you'd think he could be a more positive player and less of a chucker. Doesn't play defense, but not for lack of size or athleticism.
2016 - Dragan Bender at #4 and threw Bogdan, Skal and Papa-G to move up and take Chriss. Chriss is the dumbest knucklehead I've ever seen in team sports history. A Morriss twin with none of their basketball skills. Bender is a least not mentally impaired, but hasn't shown a ton he's barely 21 though. Again nothing any free agent is going to consider an asset.
2017 - Josh Jackson at #4 ... another medium size wing who can't hit water with an oar. Unplayable offensive player whose defense amounted to a -1.2 DPM. His form is wretched and broken, barring a massive overhaul he'll never be an average shooter. Sign me up to throw passes to that guy in the corner.

Constantly being in the lottery and never having an all star come from it is why.


And the knicks are good.

Cracks me up.

TJ Warren is a good scorer and has improved
Josh Jackson had a good rookie season, and got better every game (He would be the #2 on the knicks behind Porzingis)
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