Frank Ntilikina is GROWING!

[GYK]

I see him at best being a bigger Conley.
He really lacks aggression in scoring situations. He seems comfortable running/knowing sets. In terms of playstyle showing up on traditional stats I don't see many assist as he won't be breaking down defenses. He does finish well when he tries. His jumper isn't broken, the stroke is good. Of course his defensive potential is top notch.
So Conley at best. But being George Hill is possible.

[kamaze]

:lol: :lol: :lol: well dammit, you said it so it just might be true then. ****

Don't believe me just watch :roll: they should have drafted Dennis Smith Jr they never draft the right player besides Porzingis.

That's your opinion then, I'm okay with that. But I disagree with it big time.

Dennis Smith Jr.
15 ppg 5 assissts and 3.8 rebounds a game

Frank
6ppg 3 assists 2 rebounds a game

Numbers don't lie.

[NYKHardKnock]

Don't believe me just watch they should have drafted Dennis Smith Jr they never draft the right player besides Porzingis.

That's your opinion then, I'm okay with that. But I disagree with it big time.

Dennis Smith Jr.
15 ppg 5 assissts and 3.8 rebounds a game

Frank
6ppg 3 assists 2 rebounds a game

Numbers don't lie.

Kids and their numbers.

DSJr is a good player on a truly awful team, hes a scoring point guard that already has a complete game, was he what the #1 or #2 scoring option? So yeah numbers don't lie with that 39.5 FG%.

Frank is a very raw player on a team with 5 players scoring ahead of him. (KP, Tim, Lee, Kanter, Beasley) When he's not even a scoring pg, yet atleast. Frank's potiental is worth 5x more than DSJr's offensive game.

[PhilBlackson]

The numbers don’t lie:

FG%: 36.4%
0-3 feet: 62.1%
3-10 feet: 18.2%
10-16 feet: 34.6%
16-22 feet: 32.1%
3PT: 31.8%

Try being Frank and playing under Jeff, try having confidence when you get yanked out after every mistake. Numbers dont tell the actual story pal

It’s not like Frank is the only rookie that has ever had to go through this situation in the history of the NBA. He has to improve his ability to shoot the ball, he was very poor at it his rookie season. Prove me wrong.

Improving a jumpshot and a jumpshot being broken are 2 different things, that's what you don't seem to understand.

MKG has a brokenshot. Frank's shooting mechanics look fairly good for the most part, he just needs to be able to knock it down with greater consistency.

[HoopsterJones]

Try being Frank and playing under Jeff, try having confidence when you get yanked out after every mistake. Numbers dont tell the actual story pal

It’s not like Frank is the only rookie that has ever had to go through this situation in the history of the NBA. He has to improve his ability to shoot the ball, he was very poor at it his rookie season. Prove me wrong.

Improving a jumpshot and a jumpshot being broken are 2 different things, that's what you don't seem to understand.

MKG has a brokenshot. Frank's shooting mechanics look fairly good for the most part, he just needs to be able to knock it down with greater consistency.

What you don’t seem to understand is that broke jumpshot can mean different things and I clarified my position on this already. I don’t mean mechanically, I mean that he does not make enough baskets consistently as in he misses a lot. There are a couple of meanings of a broke jumpshot. Look it up.

[Ignitowsky]

hes the next mardy collins...taking him over mitchell was the blunder of the decade

Spare us the hyperbolic bs. The Knicks were one of 12 teams to pass on him. But you already knew that.

[PD28]

If he can develop into George Hill do the Knicks consider it a win? Or do you expect more?

[NYKHardKnock]

If he can develop into George Hill do the Knicks consider it a win? Or do you expect more?

I mean a 6'6" George Hill with massive defensive if you ask me is pretty damn lethal

[Dominator83]

That's your opinion then, I'm okay with that. But I disagree with it big time.

Dennis Smith Jr.
15 ppg 5 assissts and 3.8 rebounds a game

Frank
6ppg 3 assists 2 rebounds a game

Numbers don't lie.

Kids and their numbers.

DSJr is a good player on a truly awful team, hes a scoring point guard that already has a complete game, was he what the #1 or #2 scoring option? So yeah numbers don't lie with that 39.5 FG%.

Frank is a very raw player on a team with 5 players scoring ahead of him. (KP, Tim, Lee, Kanter, Beasley) When he's not even a scoring pg, yet atleast. Frank's potiental is worth 5x more than DSJr's offensive game.

5x more on defense maybe

[Ignitowsky]

The numbers don’t lie:

FG%: 36.4%
0-3 feet: 62.1%
3-10 feet: 18.2%
10-16 feet: 34.6%
16-22 feet: 32.1%
3PT: 31.8%

Shooting poorly =/= broken jumper. By that logic Kevin Durant had a broken jumper since he shot 28% from 3 in his rookie year.

Maybe, just maybe, poor numbers are due to get used to playing in a new league, and not having broken mechanics.

Maybe, just maybe you’re taking the term broke jump shot too literal.

Bottom line, he had a very poor shooting statistics especially from 3+ feet away from the basket. He shot poorly this season, ergo his jump shot is broke.

Not saying he can’t improve. Just that he has to get better at shooting. Giannis also had a poor rookie season shooting 41.4% and he has improved tremendously since then.

correct me if I'm wrong, but to me, a broken jump shot means broken mechanics. Frank passes the eye test for good shooting form. He has issues...lack of confidence, mediocre handle, etc., but those are fixable with good coaching and hard work.

[ellobo]

What's a good ceiling comp for him?

Gary Payton.

I like Frank, but that's a pretty high ceiling, if serious.

Payton is also completely opposite in personality from Frank. Frank could definitely benefit from a little GP-style swag and DGAF aggressiveness, but even if Frank reaches his highest possible outcome, it will be as closer to a Duncan-type personality.

[Knicks Byke]

Shooting poorly =/= broken jumper. By that logic Kevin Durant had a broken jumper since he shot 28% from 3 in his rookie year.

Maybe, just maybe, poor numbers are due to get used to playing in a new league, and not having broken mechanics.

Maybe, just maybe you’re taking the term broke jump shot too literal.

Bottom line, he had a very poor shooting statistics especially from 3+ feet away from the basket. He shot poorly this season, ergo his jump shot is broke.

Not saying he can’t improve. Just that he has to get better at shooting. Giannis also had a poor rookie season shooting 41.4% and he has improved tremendously since then.

correct me if I'm wrong, but to me, a broken jump shot means broken mechanics. Frank passes the eye test for good shooting form. He has issues...lack of confidence, mediocre handle, etc., but those are fixable with good coaching and hard work.

hows lack of confidence = broken mechanic?

[Ignitowsky]

Maybe, just maybe you’re taking the term broke jump shot too literal.

Bottom line, he had a very poor shooting statistics especially from 3+ feet away from the basket. He shot poorly this season, ergo his jump shot is broke.

Not saying he can’t improve. Just that he has to get better at shooting. Giannis also had a poor rookie season shooting 41.4% and he has improved tremendously since then.

correct me if I'm wrong, but to me, a broken jump shot means broken mechanics. Frank passes the eye test for good shooting form. He has issues...lack of confidence, mediocre handle, etc., but those are fixable with good coaching and hard work.

hows lack of confidence = broken mechanic?

are you asking me?

[Harry Garris]

How did a guy named Brickley get a job as a shooting coach?

[Knicks Byke]

correct me if I'm wrong, but to me, a broken jump shot means broken mechanics. Frank passes the eye test for good shooting form. He has issues...lack of confidence, mediocre handle, etc., but those are fixable with good coaching and hard work.

hows lack of confidence = broken mechanic?

are you asking me?

yea theres a question mark right there gawd.

[Revived]

I rather Frank than Dennis Smith by the way, Frenchman looks promising.

This is just silly and sounds like buyers remorse.

[Ignitowsky]

hows lack of confidence = broken mechanic?

are you asking me?

yea theres a question mark right there gawd.

I was saying his shot is not broken.

[Ice Trae]

Is he being groomed as a SG moving forward? I think it's his best suited position imo. The Jrue Holiday comparison is actually a really good one. A defensive stopper who can be used as a secondary ballhandler on offense is what I see him as

[KnickFan33]

Don't believe me just watch they should have drafted Dennis Smith Jr they never draft the right player besides Porzingis.

That's your opinion then, I'm okay with that. But I disagree with it big time.

Dennis Smith Jr.
15 ppg 5 assissts and 3.8 rebounds a game

Frank
6ppg 3 assists 2 rebounds a game

Numbers don't lie.

Going by your logic...

Based on rookie numbers Michael Carter Williams was the best player from his draft class. I'm sure Portland and Milwaukee wish they had him over McCollum and Giannis. Rookie numbers don't lie.

[Papi_swav]

What's a good ceiling comp for him?

Doug Christie?
Floor: Marcus Smart?