Mitchell Robinson is the NBA’s top shot blocker

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Re: Mitchell Robinson is the NBA’s top shot blocker 

Post#41 » by Richard4444 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 4:45 am

In any trade for AD, the Knicks would have to give away at least 21,6M in salaries to match 80% of his salaries. If the Knicks get 2 Max FAs, the bigger Knciks salaries are 2019 first pick (6 to 10 milions), Frank (4,8M), Knox (4,4) and DSJ(4,5M). Mitch and Dotson salaries are 1,5M. Maybe they can pick the team option for Trier for 3,5M.

In resume, probably, in any trade scenario, we would give away 4 good projects for Davis: 2019 rookie, Frank, Knox and DSJr. The trade will be very expensive if the Knicks are forced to give away Mitch too. He may be the best project and the others 4 are almost garanteed in any trade scenario.
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Re: Mitchell Robinson is the NBA’s top shot blocker 

Post#42 » by CAE15 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:03 am

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CAE15 wrote:It's nice to see Knicks fans excited for a young player that is actually doing well and is legitimately part of the roster.. he hasn't really been scouted yet and if he is truly an elite defender, then the wins will eventually come. I got one Knicks friend of mine who says he'll be the best center in 2 years..backtracked a bit and said only Embiid better. As far as the clip.. well he got good positioning against a borderline backup center in Birch. Vuc put up 26.. not sure if he was on him at all in the game. Other than 2 or 3 posessions from the clip. I always hear blocks blocks blocks. And i question if perhaps he's more a Whiteside type that puts up nice numbers. But actually hurts the overall team defense. Anywho.. enjoy his hopeful growth.

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Nah, his on/off going into to tonight's game was +5.9 and he's been a constant in the majority of net positive lineups the Knicks have had this year. He's already an imapct player.
Stats like that on a bad team don't really reflect true. I'm not saying, i know either way but until the knicks start winning and he's contributing to that we can't really tell. Like why was this elite defender not playing against KAT one of the most offensively skilled bigs in the NBA? Also remember Eddie Griffin..he was a per36 darling also 13,10,4.4 for Mitch and Griffin had a 13,11,2.8 and another year of 8.5 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 3.9 bpg. At the same time, I won't pretend like I watch Knicks games so it's definitely possible he's a stud in the making. Also possible he's an eddie griffin type

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Post#43 » by Dantares » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:10 am

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CAE15 wrote:It's nice to see Knicks fans excited for a young player that is actually doing well and is legitimately part of the roster.. he hasn't really been scouted yet and if he is truly an elite defender, then the wins will eventually come. I got one Knicks friend of mine who says he'll be the best center in 2 years..backtracked a bit and said only Embiid better. As far as the clip.. well he got good positioning against a borderline backup center in Birch. Vuc put up 26.. not sure if he was on him at all in the game. Other than 2 or 3 posessions from the clip. I always hear blocks blocks blocks. And i question if perhaps he's more a Whiteside type that puts up nice numbers. But actually hurts the overall team defense. Anywho.. enjoy his hopeful growth.

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Nah, his on/off going into to tonight's game was +5.9 and he's been a constant in the majority of net positive lineups the Knicks have had this year. He's already an imapct player.
Stats like that on a bad team don't really reflect true. I'm not saying, i know either way but until the knicks start winning and he's contributing to that we can't really tell. Like why was this elite defender not playing against KAT one of the most offensively skilled bigs in the NBA? Also remember Eddie Griffin..he was a per36 darling also 13,10,4.4 for Mitch and Griffin had a 13,11,2.8 and another year of 8.5 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 3.9 bpg. At the same time, I won't pretend like I watch Knicks games so it's definitely possible he's a stud in the making. Also possible he's an eddie griffin type

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Mitch per 36 aren't even reflective of what he can do. Mitch has been a below average rebounder up until recently. Just now he has started to use his length to get rebounds that are not in his area, that why his numbers are so high this month. If he can keep up this consistency his per 36 numbers are going to be God like next year. He just learned how to play the game without fouling out, how to shoot free throws and become a great rebounder.
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Re: Mitchell Robinson is the NBA’s top shot blocker 

Post#44 » by drekwins » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:22 am

CAE15 wrote:
Clyde Frazier wrote:
CAE15 wrote:It's nice to see Knicks fans excited for a young player that is actually doing well and is legitimately part of the roster.. he hasn't really been scouted yet and if he is truly an elite defender, then the wins will eventually come. I got one Knicks friend of mine who says he'll be the best center in 2 years..backtracked a bit and said only Embiid better. As far as the clip.. well he got good positioning against a borderline backup center in Birch. Vuc put up 26.. not sure if he was on him at all in the game. Other than 2 or 3 posessions from the clip. I always hear blocks blocks blocks. And i question if perhaps he's more a Whiteside type that puts up nice numbers. But actually hurts the overall team defense. Anywho.. enjoy his hopeful growth.

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Nah, his on/off going into to tonight's game was +5.9 and he's been a constant in the majority of net positive lineups the Knicks have had this year. He's already an imapct player.
Stats like that on a bad team don't really reflect true. I'm not saying, i know either way but until the knicks start winning and he's contributing to that we can't really tell. Like why was this elite defender not playing against KAT one of the most offensively skilled bigs in the NBA? Also remember Eddie Griffin..he was a per36 darling also 13,10,4.4 for Mitch and Griffin had a 13,11,2.8 and another year of 8.5 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 3.9 bpg. At the same time, I won't pretend like I watch Knicks games so it's definitely possible he's a stud in the making. Also possible he's an eddie griffin type

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I think that you should watch him before typing out so many questions. You're obviously confused as to what he does on the floor and his overall impact. Simple, watch some film. Otherwise, you don't want to hear takes... because you're skeptical no matter what. Knicks fans could tell you the absolute truth and you'll come back with Jerome James stats. Watch him or remain ignorant in silence.
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Re: Mitchell Robinson is the NBA’s top shot blocker 

Post#45 » by Anti Chalmers » Wed Feb 27, 2019 5:41 am

Got a chance to watch Mitchell Robinson against my Magic tonight. Elite athlete, quick, long arms, can guard perimeter as well. There was a few moments in the game where he was quite dominating defensively. Definitely the best Knicks player. Looks better than Bamba did all season and he’s a 2nd round pick.
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Post#46 » by kan_t » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:54 am

Would be interesting to follow how he and Jarrett Allen develop in the future.
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Post#47 » by Joel Embust » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:40 pm

Myles Turner is the NBA's top shot blocker.
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Post#48 » by Bologna Smasher » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:41 pm

I remember around draft time, it was rumored that the Lakers gave Mitchell a promise to draft him, which is why he didn't work out with anyone else. Imagine if they went with him rather than Moritz Wagner.
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Post#49 » by Tron Carter » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:55 pm

kan_t wrote:Would be interesting to follow how he and Jarrett Allen develop in the future.


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Post#50 » by Sanfranko » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:55 pm

Kate Winslow wrote:Myles Turner is the NBA's top shot blocker.


Nah, it's still Gobert. Players are just afraid to challenge him at the rim for the most part, coaches adjust their offense accordingly. So Gobert doesn't get enough chances to up his block numbers,
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Post#51 » by kan_t » Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:32 pm

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kan_t wrote:Would be interesting to follow how he and Jarrett Allen develop in the future.


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Doesn't tell me a lot because of the sample size. At this stage I'm interested in how they develop, not rate stats.

I'm also not only interested in how they play defense, but also offense in the future.
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Post#52 » by F N 11 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:48 pm

Throw the stats out the window and watch this kid play. He impacts the game on both ends. He’s dominating just by using his motor and athletic ability. I have yet to see someone use strength to try to shut him out. He’s too quick and agile.
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Post#53 » by E-Balla » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:01 pm

CAE15 wrote:
Clyde Frazier wrote:
CAE15 wrote:It's nice to see Knicks fans excited for a young player that is actually doing well and is legitimately part of the roster.. he hasn't really been scouted yet and if he is truly an elite defender, then the wins will eventually come. I got one Knicks friend of mine who says he'll be the best center in 2 years..backtracked a bit and said only Embiid better. As far as the clip.. well he got good positioning against a borderline backup center in Birch. Vuc put up 26.. not sure if he was on him at all in the game. Other than 2 or 3 posessions from the clip. I always hear blocks blocks blocks. And i question if perhaps he's more a Whiteside type that puts up nice numbers. But actually hurts the overall team defense. Anywho.. enjoy his hopeful growth.

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Nah, his on/off going into to tonight's game was +5.9 and he's been a constant in the majority of net positive lineups the Knicks have had this year. He's already an imapct player.
Stats like that on a bad team don't really reflect true. I'm not saying, i know either way but until the knicks start winning and he's contributing to that we can't really tell. Like why was this elite defender not playing against KAT one of the most offensively skilled bigs in the NBA? Also remember Eddie Griffin..he was a per36 darling also 13,10,4.4 for Mitch and Griffin had a 13,11,2.8 and another year of 8.5 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 3.9 bpg. At the same time, I won't pretend like I watch Knicks games so it's definitely possible he's a stud in the making. Also possible he's an eddie griffin type

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Eddie Griffin's FG% was almost half of Mitch's...
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Re: Mitchell Robinson is the NBA’s top shot blocker 

Post#54 » by flavio_93 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:02 pm

Nope. Jarret Allen is the top shot blocker in the nba. Some notable players on the block list.

Lebron james
James harden
Giannis atumpifnjfjfjfhf
Blake griffin
Anthony Davis

And the list goes on and on


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Post#55 » by Duffman100 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:06 pm

Really interesting player. Would love to see him with a talent starting lineup as the 5th option.
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Post#56 » by E-Balla » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:10 pm

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Kate Winslow wrote:Myles Turner is the NBA's top shot blocker.


Nah, it's still Gobert. Players are just afraid to challenge him at the rim for the most part, coaches adjust their offense accordingly. So Gobert doesn't get enough chances to up his block numbers,

Gobert's never even been #1 at rim protection. Embiid and Porzingis both ranked higher than him the last 2 years.

Also what you said was statistically false Rudy is 2nd in defended shots at the rim only under Embiid and slightly over Myles Turner. Percentage wise Derrick Favors is on another level from Gobert (and is usually top 5ish), and Brook Lopez is also over Gobert most seasons including this season. Gobert as an overall defensive package is the best but his rim protection alone is merely very good, not all time level.
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Post#57 » by Sanfranko » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:13 pm

E-Balla wrote:
Sanfranko wrote:
Kate Winslow wrote:Myles Turner is the NBA's top shot blocker.


Nah, it's still Gobert. Players are just afraid to challenge him at the rim for the most part, coaches adjust their offense accordingly. So Gobert doesn't get enough chances to up his block numbers,

Gobert's never even been #1 at rim protection. Embiid and Porzingis both ranked higher than him the last 2 years.

Also what you said was statistically false Rudy is 2nd in defended shots at the rim only under Embiid and slightly over Myles Turner. Percentage wise Derrick Favors is on another level from Gobert (and is usually top 5ish), and Brook Lopez is also over Gobert most seasons including this season. Gobert as an overall defensive package is the best but his rim protection alone is merely very good, not all time level.


:roll: yeah right. It's his perimeter defense that get's him DPOY. what a take :lol:
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Post#58 » by dakomish23 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:24 pm

AussieBuck wrote:Tall guy who jumps at literally everything blocks a lot of shots.

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It’s not just the shot blocking at the rim
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Post#59 » by E-Balla » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:26 pm

Sanfranko wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
Sanfranko wrote:
Nah, it's still Gobert. Players are just afraid to challenge him at the rim for the most part, coaches adjust their offense accordingly. So Gobert doesn't get enough chances to up his block numbers,

Gobert's never even been #1 at rim protection. Embiid and Porzingis both ranked higher than him the last 2 years.

Also what you said was statistically false Rudy is 2nd in defended shots at the rim only under Embiid and slightly over Myles Turner. Percentage wise Derrick Favors is on another level from Gobert (and is usually top 5ish), and Brook Lopez is also over Gobert most seasons including this season. Gobert as an overall defensive package is the best but his rim protection alone is merely very good, not all time level.


:roll: yeah right. It's his perimeter defense that get's him DPOY. what a take :lol:

Nah his combination of elite (but not best) rim protection, elite (but not best) rebounding, and his ability to defend without fouling is what makes him the best overall defender in the league. Look at other shot blockers close to Gobert's level. Outside of Embiid who is also a top 2-3ish defender none of them have his combination of rim protection and shot blocking without high foul numbers.

Guys like Mitch, Brook, KP, etc. might be better protecting the rim but they all have a major weakness which is rebounding and in the case of Mitch fouling.
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Re: Mitchell Robinson is the NBA’s top shot blocker 

Post#60 » by Spree2Houston » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:31 pm

This is a 20 year old rookie who's doing this while taking a year off in college..let that sink in...

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