Julius Randle. What does he do?

[LakersSoul]

Had a great season. 21.4 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 3.1 apg

Would have thought he could stay with the Pels to develop his game further, regardless of AD staying or leaving. But the Pels landing Zion complicates things. They're both forwards who cant play small ball C. The Pels are likely to use Zion to get AD to sign the super max. Zion might be so good that AD wants to stay. Randle also has a player option of $9M.

It’s a no brainer.

He RE-tests the market and get 3 year deal in the 15 million range/per.

[Johnny Bball]

Had a great season. 21.4 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 3.1 apg

Would have thought he could stay with the Pels to develop his game further, regardless of AD staying or leaving. But the Pels landing Zion complicates things. They're both forwards who cant play small ball C. The Pels are likely to use Zion to get AD to sign the super max. Zion might be so good that AD wants to stay. Randle also has a player option of $9M.

Davis is not staying and if the pels have half a brain they don’t want toxic Davis within a country mike of Zion. Give it up.


And Randle probably ends up wherever someone overpays.

[jayu70]

Semi-related question: what would his trade value be in terms of a pick in this draft if he for example had an additional 2 years on his current deal?

[BlazersBroncos]

His fit in Dallas is impeccable. If they could get him for 16-18M per season, he could prove to be a great 3rd option moving forward. And his age fits with Zinger / Luka moreso than nearly any 'big 3' worthy FA. Throw the rest of the dough at Pat Beverly and you have added some great, competitive, tough players to compliment the more finess Luka and Zinger. It would be an A+ offseason from them in my mind.

[igorbianch]

His fit in Dallas is impeccable. If they could get him for 16-18M per season, he could prove to be a great 3rd option moving forward. And his age fits with Zinger / Luka moreso than nearly any 'big 3' worthy FA. Throw the rest of the dough at Pat Beverly and you have added some great, competitive, tough players to compliment the more finess Luka and Zinger. It would be an A+ offseason from them in my mind.

Lol. RANDLE will be extremely lucky to get a 16-18 contract.

[Vae Victus]

Any team that gives Randle any deal over 10-11 mil is handcuffing their future cap on a player who can't be a positive player for a winning team at both ends.

His size prevents him from playing C and he lacks the shooting skills to the play the 3. As many have stated his offensive and defensive awareness is utterly terrible. He's a blackhole on offense who wont pass up a shot cuz he's intent on getting his shots up, and he cant space the floor, so he's basically hurting the whole team unless he has the ball in his hands all the time. On D his rotations are terrible and he doesnt have the length and instincts to make up for it (ala McGee).

Paying him 10% or less of the total salary cap is tolerable. He can be the 1st or 2nd big off the bench and feast off of backup bigs who are less likely to eviscerate him on defense. Also at that price he's tradeable if you decide to go into a different direction, cuz if he's paid some silly amount that some folks in this thread are suggesting (4yr 80m LOLOLOL), aint no one gonna touch that contract for a player of his caliber.

I used to think that Randle and Montrel Harrell were somewhat comparable, but this playoffs really accentuates their mindsets. Harrell will play within himself and has 110% motor. Randle thinks he's a budding superstars and hogs the ball on O and oftentimes give meh effort on D.

[igorbianch]

I don’t the understand the fascination with Randls.

He is basically the same player as Kanter and most people call Kanter a empty stats player.

[Swish1906]

Dallas will pursue him. He’s from here and we have a glaring hole at PF

Glaring hole?

Rick/Donnie allready that that they assume that KP is going to play PF at offense, a lot of the old Dirk playbook with Luka. At defense they said they think of him more of a five because of his shotblocking (and him not chasing guys around the perimeter). So Randle would fit well at offense, his defensive fit would be terrible. He is a bad defender and he cant chase forwards around the perimeter.

Thats why the Mavs are allready in extension talks with Dwight Powell and they also said they wanna bring back Kleber for sure. That will be the FC rotation...

The Mavs offseason Plan A is clearly Kemba. If they strike out on him (and the other big FAs as expected) they probably spread the 30-35m cap space through Beverley, Danny Green and Dedmon. High quality roleplayer with great defense.

[kuclas]

Randle didn’t impact winning. That’s why we can’t pay attention to overall stats.

Have to take everything into context. How is defense with and without him on the court?

What’s his plus/minus etc?

To me. He’s like a modern day version of Carlos boozer except with less defense. Boozer didn’t shoot 3s but I’m sure he would have expanded and shot 3 pointers like most modern PFs. Not bad player. Not great player. Solid player. And he got overpaid as well

[BlazersBroncos]

I think the defensive issues are being overstated with Randle. He is a mediocre defender, not as bad as Enes but not good either. He also isn't a black hole and was passing very well in NO last season. The kid is developing a respectable 3PT shot as well.

There is little argument that he would be an ideal fit in Dallas IMO. Especially if the other two starting positions are filled with 3/D players. Lets say Dallas stretches Lee and gets to around 38M in cap space:

Julius Randle 3/50
Pat Beverley 3/34
Danny Green 3/34

Then use Room Exception to resing Maxi Kebler

PG - Pat Beverly / Jalen Brunson
SG - Danny Green / Tim Hardaway Jr
SF - Luka Doncic / Justin Jackson
PF - Julius Randle / Dwight Powell
C - Kristaps Porzingis / Maxi Kebler

That team basically has it all, is young and would give Dallas another chance at a big fish FA once their 3 year deals end.

[Mrakar]

He will opt out 100%. Worst case for him he gets 9 mil with another team, but probably some1 will throw more money.
As pels fan i don't want him resigned. I wouldn't mind if he opts in but as i said that's not happening.
He is really good scorer of the bench, however his lack of outside shooting and quite bad defense make him hard to play as starter in modern NBA.

[dirkforpres]

Dallas will pursue him. He’s from here and we have a glaring hole at PF

Glaring hole?

Rick/Donnie allready that that they assume that KP is going to play PF at offense, a lot of the old Dirk playbook with Luka. At defense they said they think of him more of a five because of his shotblocking (and him not chasing guys around the perimeter). So Randle would fit well at offense, his defensive fit would be terrible. He is a bad defender and he cant chase forwards around the perimeter.

Thats why the Mavs are allready in extension talks with Dwight Powell and they also said they wanna bring back Kleber for sure. That will be the FC rotation...

The Mavs offseason Plan A is clearly Kemba. If they strike out on him (and the other big FAs as expected) they probably spread the 30-35m cap space through Beverley, Danny Green and Dedmon. High quality roleplayer with great defense.

Not true. They’ve said the plan is to start Porzingis at center, which leaves Dwight Powell as our starting and only PF... Not something anyone should really hope for.

[Swish1906]

Dallas will pursue him. He’s from here and we have a glaring hole at PF

Glaring hole?

Rick/Donnie allready that that they assume that KP is going to play PF at offense, a lot of the old Dirk playbook with Luka. At defense they said they think of him more of a five because of his shotblocking (and him not chasing guys around the perimeter). So Randle would fit well at offense, his defensive fit would be terrible. He is a bad defender and he cant chase forwards around the perimeter.

Thats why the Mavs are allready in extension talks with Dwight Powell and they also said they wanna bring back Kleber for sure. That will be the FC rotation...

The Mavs offseason Plan A is clearly Kemba. If they strike out on him (and the other big FAs as expected) they probably spread the 30-35m cap space through Beverley, Danny Green and Dedmon. High quality roleplayer with great defense.

Not true. They’ve said the plan is to start Porzingis at center, which leaves Dwight Powell as our starting and only PF... Not something anyone should really hope for.

KP is going to have different positions at offense and defense. He wont be "the PF" or "the center".

KP 27m
Powell 11m + extension
Kleber longterm contract probably 5-7m

They are not adding Randle and spend around 60m on four backcourt player...

PS: And Powell is a center and nothing else. Maxi is a PF and could easily start beside KP

[dirkforpres]

Glaring hole?

Rick/Donnie allready that that they assume that KP is going to play PF at offense, a lot of the old Dirk playbook with Luka. At defense they said they think of him more of a five because of his shotblocking (and him not chasing guys around the perimeter). So Randle would fit well at offense, his defensive fit would be terrible. He is a bad defender and he cant chase forwards around the perimeter.

Thats why the Mavs are allready in extension talks with Dwight Powell and they also said they wanna bring back Kleber for sure. That will be the FC rotation...

The Mavs offseason Plan A is clearly Kemba. If they strike out on him (and the other big FAs as expected) they probably spread the 30-35m cap space through Beverley, Danny Green and Dedmon. High quality roleplayer with great defense.

Not true. They’ve said the plan is to start Porzingis at center, which leaves Dwight Powell as our starting and only PF... Not something anyone should really hope for.

KP is going to have different positions at offense and defense. He wont be "the PF" or "the center".

KP 27m
Powell 11m + extension
Kleber longterm contract probably 5-7m

They are not adding Randle and spend around 60m on four backcourt player...

We will get outbid for Kleber and Powell should come off the bench.

Randle-Porzingis with Powell off the bench is a good rotation for our bigs

[RCM88x]

Watch out for Golden State if KD (and Klay?) leaves. I wouldn't be surprised if he takes less money (or not if Klay leaves) to go there, and it's a great fit I think.

Pacers, Mavericks, even the Clippers and 6ers are players too if they strikeout on others.

[xdrta+]

Watch out for Golden State if KD (and Klay?) leaves. I wouldn't be surprised if he takes less money (or not if Klay leaves) to go there, and it's a great fit I think.

Pacers, Mavericks, even the Clippers and 6ers are players too if they strikeout on others.

Golden State? Will he opt out of $9M to sign for the $5.7M MLE? Because that's all GS can offer.

[draftnightsuit]

I think Sixers should go after him. Play big ball and overpower teams.

Not sure about that. You wanna have Embiid in the paint as much as possible, which is where Randle thrives. But then again Embiid cant play in the paint 24/7 so...

Both of them can dominate the paint just like Gasol/Randolph.

Also, Randle can play some backup C and that was a massive weakness for Philly this year.

[RCM88x]

Watch out for Golden State if KD (and Klay?) leaves. I wouldn't be surprised if he takes less money (or not if Klay leaves) to go there, and it's a great fit I think.

Pacers, Mavericks, even the Clippers and 6ers are players too if they strikeout on others.

Golden State? Will he opt out of $9M to sign for the $5.7M MLE? Because that's all GS can offer.

If no one offers him enough perhaps, I really don't know what his value will be this off-season, it's entirely possible there's no big money available and he just takes a smaller deal to spite everyone. GS will have a lot of space in 2020 so getting a foot in the door early could be smart.

Honestly after the DMC situation I wouldn't doubt anything.

[TheNewEra]

Can’t see the clippers paying Randle to do similar to Harrell does for way more money even with a bump in shooting

[THE J0KER]

Thanks to his young age and good season, his market price should be around 50/3 (65/4), so no way he will stay to play next season for just 9M.