Is Iggy a Hall of Famer

[Effigy]

The dude is not remotely close to being a HOFer. Like, he shouldn’t even be on the ballot. I don’t understand how over 30 people have voted yes so far.

I think it's more how unimpressed we are with the HoF 'standards' than anything.

[WarriorGM]

Is Draymond Green a Hall-of-Famer? What makes Draymond Green's résumé better than Iguodala's?

If Green is not a Hall-of-Famer, are the Warriors who might be considered the best team of all-time adequately represented?

[EAS Law]

Does Derek Fisher get into the HOF? Robert Horry? Matt Bonner? All players that have rings and were on great teams. I’ll give Iggy credit that he was once the best player Philly had, but that was short-lived and wasn’t saying much.

[dhsilv2]

Is Draymond Green a Hall-of-Famer? What makes Draymond Green's résumé better than Iguodala's?

If Green is not a Hall-of-Famer, are the Warriors who might be considered the best team of all-time adequately represented?

Dray hopefully makes it. The DPOY + 3x allstar vs 1x allstar are pretty big difference here. Dray is at a 27.3% change on the basketball reference predictor to about 6% for iggy. Another title should move dray into a pretty solid place to get in.

[Myth]

I think he should get in. There is a small push for Toni Kukoc to be nominated for HOF, and I think they have had similar careers, but Iggy has a a few things putting him over Toni, including an all-star game, a couple all-defensive team nods, and most importantly a FMVP.

[WarriorGM]

Is Draymond Green a Hall-of-Famer? What makes Draymond Green's résumé better than Iguodala's?

If Green is not a Hall-of-Famer, are the Warriors who might be considered the best team of all-time adequately represented?

Dray hopefully makes it. The DPOY + 3x allstar vs 1x allstar are pretty big difference here. Dray is at a 27.3% change on the basketball reference predictor to about 6% for iggy. Another title should move dray into a pretty solid place to get in.

It could be argued though that Iguodala has shown that he can lead two different teams to the playoffs. Draymond cannot say that yet.

[Pythagoras]

The dude is not remotely close to being a HOFer. Like, he shouldn’t even be on the ballot. I don’t understand how over 30 people have voted yes so far.

I think it's more how unimpressed we are with the HoF 'standards' than anything.

I agree the HOF standards can be suspect, but there are WAY better players than Iggy who aren’t in and will likely never get in:

Just to name a few, Shawn Kemp, Mark Price, Kevin Johnson, Tom Chambers, Sam Cassell, Chris Webber... The list goes on and on. Hell, someone earlier in the thread used Shawn Marion as an example of why Iggy might deserve to be in. The Matrix was a way better player than Iggy in his peak. Shawn Marion was named to 2 All NBA teams during his career. Iggy never sniffed All NBA.

Asking if this dude is a HOFer just displays a lack of knowledge of the history of the game.

[Percentsign]

Does Derek Fisher get into the HOF? Robert Horry? Matt Bonner? All players that have rings and were on great teams. I’ll give Iggy credit that he was once the best player Philly had, but that was short-lived and wasn’t saying much.

Iguodala is better than those players by a lot.

Horry - 66.3 win shares in 1107 games
Fisher - 62.3 win shares in 1287 games
Bonner - 38.5 win shares in 792 games

Iguodala - 96.4 win shares in 1108 games

Iguodala is comparable to Dennis Rodman:

Rodman - 89.8 win shares in 911 games.

On one hand, Rodman & Iguodala probably weren't much better than Horace Grant, Amare Stoudamire, or Charles Oakley. But the participation in a dynasty puts them over the top; sometimes narrative carries the day over statistics and ability.

[Pythagoras]

I think he should get in. There is a small push for Toni Kukoc to be nominated for HOF, and I think they have had similar careers, but Iggy has a a few things putting him over Toni, including an all-star game, a couple all-defensive team nods, and most importantly a FMVP.

Kukoc had a very noteworthy international career. Like it or not, the HOF takes into account what you did internationally. The small edge that Iggy has over Kukoc in the NBA is dwarfed by Kukoc’s international accomplishments. In order to offset Iggy would have had to had a noteworthy college career (which the Hall also considers), but he doesn’t.

[Effigy]

The dude is not remotely close to being a HOFer. Like, he shouldn’t even be on the ballot. I don’t understand how over 30 people have voted yes so far.

I think it's more how unimpressed we are with the HoF 'standards' than anything.

I agree the HOF standards can be suspect, but there are WAY better players than Iggy who aren’t in and will likely never get in:

Just to name a few, Shawn Kemp, Mark Price, Kevin Johnson, Tom Chambers, Sam Cassell, Chris Webber... The list goes on and on. Hell, someone earlier in the thread used Shawn Marion as an example of why Iggy might deserve to be in. The Matrix was a way better player than Iggy in his peak. Shawn Marion was named to 2 All NBA teams during his career. Iggy never sniffed All NBA.

Asking if this dude is a HOFer just displays a lack of knowledge of the history of the game.

Iggy's case is that he won a Finals MVP, was a key player in 4 titles on an all time dynasty team that won 73 games in a season. None of the guys you mentioned won ONE title (at least not as an impact player) let alone 4. It's a very different resume than those guys you listed have. What do you value? A star player who doesn't win anything, or a really really good player who plays awesome D and helps a dynasty win 4 titles? Both are extremely valuable obviously. I wouldn't put him in, but most of us here are far pickier about who should go.

[BVB24]

No.

If he did, the Hall would lose a lot of credibility, and I say that with the utmost respect to Iggy cause he’s one of the great role-players of our generation.

[Pythagoras]

I think it's more how unimpressed we are with the HoF 'standards' than anything.

I agree the HOF standards can be suspect, but there are WAY better players than Iggy who aren’t in and will likely never get in:

Just to name a few, Shawn Kemp, Mark Price, Kevin Johnson, Tom Chambers, Sam Cassell, Chris Webber... The list goes on and on. Hell, someone earlier in the thread used Shawn Marion as an example of why Iggy might deserve to be in. The Matrix was a way better player than Iggy in his peak. Shawn Marion was named to 2 All NBA teams during his career. Iggy never sniffed All NBA.

Asking if this dude is a HOFer just displays a lack of knowledge of the history of the game.

Iggy's case is that he won a Finals MVP, was a key player in 4 titles on an all time dynasty team that won 73 games in a season. None of the guys you mentioned won ONE title (at least not as an impact player) let alone 4.

And all were still ridiculously better players than Iggy. Give me a break. Or do you think Pippen was a better player than either Malone or Barkley?

[OdomFan]

I think he should get in. He doesn't have to be one of the greatest icons in history to deserve a hof spot. He worked hard on both ends of the floor throughout his career, and has been a pretty big part of why these Warriors have succeeded.

[Effigy]

I agree the HOF standards can be suspect, but there are WAY better players than Iggy who aren’t in and will likely never get in:

Just to name a few, Shawn Kemp, Mark Price, Kevin Johnson, Tom Chambers, Sam Cassell, Chris Webber... The list goes on and on. Hell, someone earlier in the thread used Shawn Marion as an example of why Iggy might deserve to be in. The Matrix was a way better player than Iggy in his peak. Shawn Marion was named to 2 All NBA teams during his career. Iggy never sniffed All NBA.

Asking if this dude is a HOFer just displays a lack of knowledge of the history of the game.

Iggy's case is that he won a Finals MVP, was a key player in 4 titles on an all time dynasty team that won 73 games in a season. None of the guys you mentioned won ONE title (at least not as an impact player) let alone 4.

And all were still ridiculously better players than Iggy. Give me a break. Or do you think Pippen was a better player than either Malone or Barkley?

Lol. You caught me before my edit. I wouldn't put him in. I'm just saying that's his case. And the league is known to let undeserving guys in. Iggy was WAY better than Vlade for instance, who got in thanks to being an ambassador for Serbia, I guess....

[OdomFan]

Iggy could also get in for being one of the most popular/entertaining dunkers in NBA history. People forget that the NBA is also about entertaining the fans and Iggy did that consistently over the years of his early career.

[dhsilv2]

Is Draymond Green a Hall-of-Famer? What makes Draymond Green's résumé better than Iguodala's?

If Green is not a Hall-of-Famer, are the Warriors who might be considered the best team of all-time adequately represented?

Dray hopefully makes it. The DPOY + 3x allstar vs 1x allstar are pretty big difference here. Dray is at a 27.3% change on the basketball reference predictor to about 6% for iggy. Another title should move dray into a pretty solid place to get in.

It could be argued though that Iguodala has shown that he can lead two different teams to the playoffs. Draymond cannot say that yet.

That doesn't really matter in how the hall is traditional evaluated. I'd argue the clear second best player on a team that went to back to back finals and won a title is pretty much more likely something that they'd look at.

[Poohdini1]

If it was up to me no, but the criteria for the NBA HOF isn't exactly difficult. He's a Finals MVP and might win his 4th championship. My guess is he has to wait, but eventually he'll get in.

[dhsilv2]

Iggy's case is that he won a Finals MVP, was a key player in 4 titles on an all time dynasty team that won 73 games in a season. None of the guys you mentioned won ONE title (at least not as an impact player) let alone 4.

And all were still ridiculously better players than Iggy. Give me a break. Or do you think Pippen was a better player than either Malone or Barkley?

Lol. You caught me before my edit. I wouldn't put him in. I'm just saying that's his case. And the league is known to let undeserving guys in. Iggy was WAY better than Vlade for instance, who got in thanks to being an ambassador for Serbia, I guess....

Peak stats

BPM 5.3 >4.4
WS/48 .173>.167
PER 20.5>19.0

Want to guess is higher in all 3 cases?

[HiRez]

Tough one but it’s going to be hard to leave out a guy with fingers full of rings and a Finals MVP on his résumé.

Maybe they should have some kind of Honorable Mention wing in the Hall where they showcase players that had an impact above what their stats indicate, or where players who are on the margin awaiting a vote can still get some mention. Always seemed weird to me that HOFs are all or nothing deals.

[Effigy]

And all were still ridiculously better players than Iggy. Give me a break. Or do you think Pippen was a better player than either Malone or Barkley?

Lol. You caught me before my edit. I wouldn't put him in. I'm just saying that's his case. And the league is known to let undeserving guys in. Iggy was WAY better than Vlade for instance, who got in thanks to being an ambassador for Serbia, I guess....

Peak stats

BPM 5.3 >4.4
WS/48 .173>.167
PER 20.5>19.0

Want to guess is higher in all 3 cases?

We really doing the ‘cherry pick 3 stars that back up my argument’ thing? Feel free to put up a poll and people who was the better player. I think Iggy will win easily.