Rockets owner: Daryl Morey does NOT speak for the Rockets

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Post#41 » by Higgs Boston » Sat Oct 5, 2019 6:37 am

Why he says our presence in tokyo? he thinks tokyo is in china or that asia is just china? japan
hates china so they likely would want the worst for china.
Hong Kong isn't fighting for freedom or anything like that, they just want to keep their special status in china and don't want to be a normal part of china. If a state in the united states would want to be special or even independent people would say the same? of course no, it's just nationalism and hypocrisy.
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Post#42 » by TheBallsDeeper » Sat Oct 5, 2019 6:38 am

Good on Morey for writing that, pity the ownership cares more about money than humans.
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Post#43 » by dhsilv2 » Sat Oct 5, 2019 6:39 am

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ClipsFanSince98 wrote:I also didn't give much thought to that part of my post. Obviously the pro government Chinese could potentially boycott the Rockets and seem enraged. So I get business wise the harm, but I also believe our obligation to mankind is more important. Meh. That being said I stand with Hong Kong too :)


I don't see how his words do ANYTHING at all to help. No reason to lose money when you're not adding any value either.
Well it's not definitive one way or another. Bringing even more attention to a crises is never a bad thing. Our government is already putting the screws to the situation, but getting more of the world involved potentially could add pressure. China is trying to recreate 1984 in their own country.

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I mean, like I said...his words aren't doing anything. I doubt any american who follows any news isn't partially aware. If you're not going to add to a conversation meaningfully, start one, or grow it. Don't waste your time. I think this falls into the latter pretty clearly. Honestly, the value of the west in terms of china is honestly more valuable here than those words. As long as they for example want our media (NBA games) the more power our government has.
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Post#44 » by OkcSinceSGA » Sat Oct 5, 2019 7:17 am

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Yes, with a president corrupting without checks, colluding without fear, grifting without thought.

A senate unwilling to provide oversight or a ounce of accountability.

A DOJ playing the role of the personal mob fixer for the president.

A system in which law enforcement slaughters black Americans without repercussions.

Basic freedoms? Controlling who can and can't have kids etc is inhumane? I think you need to leave your state and not talk about subjects that you have zero understanding of.

Morey is gone. This is blowing up on the Chinese internet. Top 3 GM in the league will be axed due to one tweet.
So many false equivalencies I don't even know where to begin. People love to bash America, yet it's still the most freedom and liberty of any country on Earth. Sure, America like all governments has corruption and flaws but using a two wrongs fallacy here is beyond idiotic.

PS... Still waiting on the Trump concentration camps, undoing decades of civil rights, persecuting gays etc. Hint... It never happened and never will.
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Post#45 » by Shock Defeat » Sat Oct 5, 2019 7:34 am

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
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Yes, with a president corrupting without checks, colluding without fear, grifting without thought.

A senate unwilling to provide oversight or a ounce of accountability.

A DOJ playing the role of the personal mob fixer for the president.

A system in which law enforcement slaughters black Americans without repercussions.

Basic freedoms? Controlling who can and can't have kids etc is inhumane? I think you need to leave your state and not talk about subjects that you have zero understanding of.

Morey is gone. This is blowing up on the Chinese internet. Top 3 GM in the league will be axed due to one tweet.
So many false equivalencies I don't even know where to begin. People love to bash America, yet it's still the most freedom and liberty of any country on Earth. Sure, America like all governments has corruption and flaws but using a two wrongs fallacy here is beyond idiotic.

PS... Still waiting on the Trump concentration camps, undoing decades of civil rights, persecuting gays etc. Hint... It never happened and never will.

Anybody who calls America the most freedom and liberty country on earth is delusional in the year 2019. Have you seen the freedom and liberty that exists in other 1st world countries? More than America.
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Post#46 » by BoogieTime » Sat Oct 5, 2019 7:41 am

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Yes, with a president corrupting without checks, colluding without fear, grifting without thought.

A senate unwilling to provide oversight or a ounce of accountability.

A DOJ playing the role of the personal mob fixer for the president.

A system in which law enforcement slaughters black Americans without repercussions.

Basic freedoms? Controlling who can and can't have kids etc is inhumane? I think you need to leave your state and not talk about subjects that you have zero understanding of.

Morey is gone. This is blowing up on the Chinese internet. Top 3 GM in the league will be axed due to one tweet.
So many false equivalencies I don't even know where to begin. People love to bash America, yet it's still the most freedom and liberty of any country on Earth. Sure, America like all governments has corruption and flaws but using a two wrongs fallacy here is beyond idiotic.

PS... Still waiting on the Trump concentration camps, undoing decades of civil rights, persecuting gays etc. Hint... It never happened and never will.

Anybody who calls America the most freedom and liberty country on earth is delusional in the year 2019. Have you seen the freedom and liberty that exists in other 1st world countries? More than America.


How so?
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Post#49 » by Shock Defeat » Sat Oct 5, 2019 8:02 am

BoogieTime wrote:
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ClipsFanSince98 wrote:So many false equivalencies I don't even know where to begin. People love to bash America, yet it's still the most freedom and liberty of any country on Earth. Sure, America like all governments has corruption and flaws but using a two wrongs fallacy here is beyond idiotic.

PS... Still waiting on the Trump concentration camps, undoing decades of civil rights, persecuting gays etc. Hint... It never happened and never will.

Anybody who calls America the most freedom and liberty country on earth is delusional in the year 2019. Have you seen the freedom and liberty that exists in other 1st world countries? More than America.


How so?

Well one of the most important duties that a country has towards its citizens is to keep them safe and healthy. Not only is America the most dangerous first world country by far (and it's not even close), it also does not have universal healthcare despite clearly having enough tax revenue to do so. I mean this is a very low bar and America fails at it.
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Post#50 » by illuminati666 » Sat Oct 5, 2019 8:13 am

Morey is allowed to express his personal opinions. Owner is allowed to say they don't represent organization.

It's complicated bc while Morey stance is commendable, given Houston's importance in China it becomes a job vs morals type of question, he def got some flack for his comments.
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Post#51 » by BadWolf » Sat Oct 5, 2019 8:15 am

paulbball wrote:Literal direct intervention in the politics and internal workings of a sovereign foreign country. It is literally a **** insane train of thought.


We're talking about US here, right?
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Post#52 » by TheNewEra » Sat Oct 5, 2019 8:22 am

So what are the percentage chances Morey is fired?
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Post#53 » by sunskerr » Sat Oct 5, 2019 8:32 am

Speaking out against injustice is everybody's business.
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Post#54 » by axeman23 » Sat Oct 5, 2019 8:51 am

"Chinese people buy jerseys too." :wink:
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Post#55 » by HeartBreakKid » Sat Oct 5, 2019 8:54 am

paulbball wrote:Morey just got himself in titanic troubles. There will be pressure to axe Morey. Rockets is the most Chinese oriented team in the league with close ties to Chinese basketball. Fetitta is retail billionaire and fully understands that it's not wise to take any stance on politics.

Morey is going to 99% come out with a forced apology. Or else he is going to get fired. There is no other way to resolve this issue.

And why do Americans feel the need to meddle in the affairs of foreign countries?

How will you feel if China started funding Black Lives Matter? The Klan? Southern Separatist/Nationalist movements?


It's not the same thing at all.... this really shows your ignorance of China-Hong Kong if you think it is comparable to racism battles or...the KKK? Huh?

And if Chinese openly denounced the KKK, I think most Americans would feel good about that - I certainly hope you would.

USA largely lets China does what it wants - so this is a very strange criticism.
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Post#56 » by clyde21 » Sat Oct 5, 2019 8:56 am

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ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
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Wow. So Daryl Morey in a now deleted tweet simply posted "Fight for freedom and stand with Hong Kong" and gets blasted by the owner publicly. Morey now deleted this tweet. Sure, politics may be best avoided but Morey didn't say anything all that controversial TBH. Rockets are essentially Asia's NBA team along with the Lakers and I'm sure the fans appreciated a US organization speaking up.


The Rockets have spent a lot of time and effort trying to become a meaningful entity in China , not surprising that ownership doesn't want to risk that
I also didn't give much thought to that part of my post. Obviously the pro government Chinese could potentially boycott the Rockets and seem enraged. So I get business wise the harm, but I also believe our obligation to mankind is more important. Meh. That being said I stand with Hong Kong too :)


mankind? Hong Kong protests? lol

if you want to talk about mankind, how about the 1.5 MILLION Uyghers the Chinese are literally putting in concentrations camps as we speak? but you wont see that on the media...only BS Hong Kong protests.
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Post#57 » by clyde21 » Sat Oct 5, 2019 9:00 am

kio80 wrote:The situation in Hong Kong is a lot more intense/ severe than what most people in other countries think.

China has been, and am still stepping away from interfering with the one country 2 system principle as much as they can ( as a Hong Kong resident for over 20 years, I applaud them for that), as much as the rioters in Hong Kong has elevated the violence to a degree that was unheard of in the modern Hong Kong era.
Despicable media has been covering up the violence by the so called freedom fighters and exaggerated the force used by the police in an unspeakable manner (as an example, the recent article by New York Times had edited the footage of the police shooting at a rioter incident to make the policeman who opened fire seemed to be in the wrong, I am actual very impressed by the Hong Kong police since that was the first direct shot at a rioter in a devastating riot that has been on going for 4 months)

Last night, rioters had burned down a bank, robbed multiple shops and burned down the trains in the subway.

Us, who live in Hong Kong only wish the China government will unleash the army to stop this mess.

So for people who are still standing with Hong Kong, I sincerely wish you can look at all sides/ angles, and would stop blindly siding with the rioters, who are disturbing the peace of Hong Kong in the name of “freedom”.

PS: the guy in the white shirt is a off duty cop who was attacked by the mob and was thrown a Molotov cocktail.

A very sad Hong Kong resident.





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it's hilarious how Americans actually think these Hong Kong protests are legit...they're literally being stoked by Western agents, protestors literally had american flags instead of Hong Kong flags LOL...half of the protestors that were interviewed didn't even **** know what they're protesting...

but you'll hear more about that conjured up BS than China literally putting millions of Uyghers in gulags AS WE SPEAK.
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Post#58 » by HeartBreakKid » Sat Oct 5, 2019 9:02 am

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
paulbball wrote:
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:


Yes, with a president corrupting without checks, colluding without fear, grifting without thought.

A senate unwilling to provide oversight or a ounce of accountability.

A DOJ playing the role of the personal mob fixer for the president.

A system in which law enforcement slaughters black Americans without repercussions.

Basic freedoms? Controlling who can and can't have kids etc is inhumane? I think you need to leave your state and not talk about subjects that you have zero understanding of.

Morey is gone. This is blowing up on the Chinese internet. Top 3 GM in the league will be axed due to one tweet.
So many false equivalencies I don't even know where to begin. People love to bash America, yet it's still the most freedom and liberty of any country on Earth. Sure, America like all governments has corruption and flaws but using a two wrongs fallacy here is beyond idiotic.

PS... Still waiting on the Trump concentration camps, undoing decades of civil rights, persecuting gays etc. Hint... It never happened and never will.


Where did you get the impression USA is the most free country in the world? What makes it a more free country than say, Canada - it's right to ban adults from purchasing alcohol?
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Post#59 » by HeartBreakKid » Sat Oct 5, 2019 9:05 am

[quote="Higgs Boston"]Why he says our presence in tokyo? he thinks tokyo is in china or that asia is just china? japan
hates china so they likely would want the worst for china.
Hong Kong isn't fighting for freedom or anything like that, they just want to keep their special status in china and don't want to be a normal part of china. If a state in the united states would want to be special or even independent people would say the same? of course no, it's just nationalism and hypocrisy.[/quote]

First off this exist in USA. What do you think Puerto Rico, Guam, US Virgin Islands etc are?

Second, Hong Kong is entitled to not be treated like the rest of China, as it is part of their deal with going back to China. They are supposed to have self governance, and some feel China is breaching that - hence the protests.
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Post#60 » by clyde21 » Sat Oct 5, 2019 9:07 am

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:
paulbball wrote:
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:


Yes, with a president corrupting without checks, colluding without fear, grifting without thought.

A senate unwilling to provide oversight or a ounce of accountability.

A DOJ playing the role of the personal mob fixer for the president.

A system in which law enforcement slaughters black Americans without repercussions.

Basic freedoms? Controlling who can and can't have kids etc is inhumane? I think you need to leave your state and not talk about subjects that you have zero understanding of.

Morey is gone. This is blowing up on the Chinese internet. Top 3 GM in the league will be axed due to one tweet.
So many false equivalencies I don't even know where to begin. People love to bash America, yet it's still the most freedom and liberty of any country on Earth. Sure, America like all governments has corruption and flaws but using a two wrongs fallacy here is beyond idiotic.

PS... Still waiting on the Trump concentration camps, undoing decades of civil rights, persecuting gays etc. Hint... It never happened and never will.


do tell me...what makes America more 'free' than say....Sweden or Denmark or Finland?
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