Cam Reddish on pace for worst shooting season in modern era

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Re: Cam Reddish on pace for worst shooting season in modern era 

Post#41 » by Duke4life831 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:01 am

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Buzzard wrote:He needs to knock down that 3 ball and tighten up his handles significantly. I am not anywhere near ready to call him a bust because of his defensive positives and size that you mentioned. He has a chance to be unique in a positive manner and I don't think anyone considered him NBA ready; not even his most ardent supporters.

Huerter was on a minutes restriction for 8 of his first 10 games. Just when that was lifted he gets hurt again and Huerter has now missed 9 straight games. If not for that and Collins being suspended, Reddish would be playing 15 - 20 minutes a night and being brought along slowly. One or two off seasons of work and time will tell.


This line and, "have a consistent motor and not disappear" has been the most commonly used way to describe Cam for years now. You can go back through the Draft threads from last year and one month Im the head cheerleader of the Cam train, next month I think he's out of the league in a couple years.

As of right now, he kind of looks like all of the things I was fearing would take place. Shockingly inefficient, more turnovers than assists (This one is close), super inconsistent games (one game he can put up 17 points, then next game you forget he was even out on the court). Definitely too early to write him off, but he is definitely living up to all of the things all the people that said he was going to be a major bust at the moment.

There is only one ROY every year and only a few rookies who really shine consistently in their first year. In a nut shell, I could name 20 or more 1st round picks and say they look like bust before the season even started and by the end of the season be right on how most of them looked.

Moral of my story, I do not put a lot into rookie seasons, they are usually brutal for 80% of the 1st round picks in every draft; and that is being conservative.


Ya but its never a good sign when a guy has a brutal year in college, then follows that up with a really brutal rookie year. We have yet to see Cam actually play good consistent basketball.

EYBL as a senior (17 games): 40/29/77 with 3.5 assists to 2.5 TOVs
USA team: Was putting together a good 4-5 game run, then crapped the bed with a 7/5/1 on 2-7 shooting against Canada while RJ went off and won the game.
Duke: 13/3/2 with 2.7 TOVs on 35/33/77 shooting, while basically getting wide open shots all year long

Cam has always been that guy that people always use the word "potential" with, but he just never seems to put it together. But ya he has yet to put together consistent good play against quality opposition.
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Re: Cam Reddish on pace for worst shooting season in modern era 

Post#42 » by dakomish23 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:04 am

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The shot at the end was crazy but I actually like how he got open. Does he have a left hand? Haven’t watched enough of him to know
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Re: Cam Reddish on pace for worst shooting season in modern era 

Post#43 » by dakomish23 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:05 am

Too early to write anyone off. Ppl were writing off Trae to start last year.

Let’s see where he is year 3.
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Re: Cam Reddish on pace for worst shooting season in modern era 

Post#44 » by Buzzard » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:07 am

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This line and, "have a consistent motor and not disappear" has been the most commonly used way to describe Cam for years now. You can go back through the Draft threads from last year and one month Im the head cheerleader of the Cam train, next month I think he's out of the league in a couple years.

As of right now, he kind of looks like all of the things I was fearing would take place. Shockingly inefficient, more turnovers than assists (This one is close), super inconsistent games (one game he can put up 17 points, then next game you forget he was even out on the court). Definitely too early to write him off, but he is definitely living up to all of the things all the people that said he was going to be a major bust at the moment.

There is only one ROY every year and only a few rookies who really shine consistently in their first year. In a nut shell, I could name 20 or more 1st round picks and say they look like bust before the season even started and by the end of the season be right on how most of them looked.

Moral of my story, I do not put a lot into rookie seasons, they are usually brutal for 80% of the 1st round picks in every draft; and that is being conservative.


Ya but its never a good sign when a guy has a brutal year in college, then follows that up with a really brutal rookie year. We have yet to see Cam actually play good consistent basketball.

EYBL as a senior (17 games): 40/29/77 with 3.5 assists to 2.5 TOVs
USA team: Was putting together a good 4-5 game run, then crapped the bed with a 7/5/1 on 2-7 shooting against Canada while RJ went off and won the game.
Duke: 13/3/2 with 2.7 TOVs on 35/33/77 shooting, while basically getting wide open shots all year long

Cam has always been that guy that people always use the word "potential" with, but he just never seems to put it together. But ya he has yet to put together consistent good play against quality opposition.

I guess your point is he is a bust. I beg to differ and say its way to early to make that call. I will say that about all 30 1st round picks as well. It does not matter who is right or wrong, I just tend to stay away from the bust call; especially only 19 games into a rookie season. Some enjoy the hype; thus the hot topic or take this thread has received with so many replies in such a short time....

We will just have to agree to disagree. Get back to me in about 20 months and I might be apt to change my mind. Might being the key word.
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Re: Cam Reddish on pace for worst shooting season in modern era 

Post#45 » by monopoman » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:08 am

Cam Reddish lives that life of you miss 100% of the shots you don't take, the problem is he almost misses 100% of the shots he does take.
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Re: Cam Reddish on pace for worst shooting season in modern era 

Post#46 » by PlatinumState » Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:21 am

Man he's shooting 28.7% for 2 and 21.3% for 3. Jesus Christ. His form doesnt look broken, so is he even practicing his shot?
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Re: Cam Reddish on pace for worst shooting season in modern era 

Post#47 » by UcanUwill » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:07 am

MrBigShot wrote:Crazy to me that someone with those physical tools who went to such a great college basketball program and has access to world class coaches, trainers, equipment and modern sports science can be so bad.


Its not crazy at all. NBA has like 300 best players in world, and then other 100 - 150 some of the better players in the world. Some people dont realize how talented you have to be to reach this level, looking at big picture counting all pros playing basketball in the world, Cam Is still on the better side of players, hes just not an NBA player, his college season proved and its just fault of some scouts who taught he is worth lotto pick.
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Re: Cam Reddish on pace for worst shooting season in modern era 

Post#48 » by SHO'NUFF » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:09 am

He’s playing like a 3rd year Lauri Markkanen. Pure trash!
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Post#49 » by Rainwater » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:12 am

It has already been said but he is only starting because Huerter is hurt. Clearly not ready..
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Post#50 » by Balllin » Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:14 pm

2 years away from being 2 years away

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Re: Cam Reddish on pace for worst shooting season in modern era 

Post#51 » by E-Balla » Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:59 pm

Imon wrote:Isn't Cam the starter because Huerter is still out?

Anyways, before the draft people were saying Reddish would be a boom-or-bust type of guy. He seems to be trending bust so far but it hasn't even been a third of the way through his rookie season. He has actually been trending upwards as the season has progressed - I think he started the season shooting around .180 or something.
I think we'll know better what kind of player he is in his sophomore season ... if he still gets minutes.

Nope. Huerter started only like 2 games this year. He was benched for Cam.

And as far as trending upwards goes he only has 2 games shooting over 40% and he was 35% from the field in college. He has no potential, he's **** trash.
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Re: Cam Reddish on pace for worst shooting season in modern era 

Post#52 » by E-Balla » Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:06 pm

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Imon wrote:Isn't Cam the starter because Huerter is still out?


Yeah. I was going to make a thread here on the GM titled “WTH Is Wrong With The Hawks!??”

But Cam replacing the vastly superior but injured Huerter along with John Collins being suspended 25 games pretty much sums up the answer as to why their record is so poor atm.

Jabari is outplaying the best I've seen from Collins in his career. Maybe not by the numbers but by my eye he's carrying that offense with the attention he gets off screen and rolls and his ability to attack (Collins was 10th in dunks last year, Jabari is 4th so far this year in his place).

Atlanta's real issue is they were never that good. Last year when they "played well" their SRS was still bad. Add in Cam Reddish being absolutely terrible and the coach for some reason starting him and giving him minutes and they had no shot.
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Re: Cam Reddish on pace for worst shooting season in modern era 

Post#53 » by peZt » Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:08 pm

Remember when people were all over his empty gym workouts because he pulled out some crossover moves and could hit an open jumper? :lol: Again, when you have a full college season worth of evidence and material, don't fall for some hyped up workout footage. Dude was trash in Duke and it was obvious he was only a first round pick because of his High School pedigree
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Re: Cam Reddish on pace for worst shooting season in modern era 

Post#54 » by BudenFerry » Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:31 pm

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Imon wrote:Isn't Cam the starter because Huerter is still out?

Anyways, before the draft people were saying Reddish would be a boom-or-bust type of guy. He seems to be trending bust so far but it hasn't even been a third of the way through his rookie season. He has actually been trending upwards as the season has progressed - I think he started the season shooting around .180 or something.
I think we'll know better what kind of player he is in his sophomore season ... if he still gets minutes.

Nope. Huerter started only like 2 games this year. He was benched for Cam.

And as far as trending upwards goes he only has 2 games shooting over 40% and he was 35% from the field in college. He has no potential, he's **** trash.
Huerter is 100% still the starter when he is healthy and not on a minutes restriction.

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Re: Cam Reddish on pace for worst shooting season in modern era 

Post#55 » by Michael Lucky » Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:06 pm

Didn't he pretty much have one of the worst shooting seasons ever in college?

That's why i couldn't understand why people were still so high on him.
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Post#56 » by TroubleS0me » Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:16 pm

Killa Cam?
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Post#57 » by Kampuchea » Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:18 pm

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The shot at the end was crazy but I actually like how he got open. Does he have a left hand? Haven’t watched enough of him to know


He doesn’t have a shot with his left, also no shot with his right.
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Re: Cam Reddish on pace for worst shooting season in modern era 

Post#58 » by kg01 » Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:53 pm

Wheres a 'throw the dayum towel' gif when you need it?

Ok, ok. We get it. End the 3yr campaign against the dude.

Give him a chance to develop with our coaches. Let's be honest, K isn't in the development game at Duke anymore.

And, to the guy who asked, Reddish is actually excellent defensively so far for a rookie.
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Post#59 » by j-ragg » Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:57 pm

G League wouldn't be bad for him. I feel like teams don't do it for higher picks a lot because the players would think of it as "embarrassing" but I wish they'd do the same for Bamba too. He just can't handle the physicality and the game is too fast.
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Re: Cam Reddish on pace for worst shooting season in modern era 

Post#60 » by NYKnickerbocker » Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:03 pm

dakomish23 wrote:Too early to write anyone off. Ppl were writing off Trae to start last year.

Let’s see where he is year 3.

Trae was a best in college tho lol. Almost all guys are n the NBA were beat in college. Cam struggled to look like he belonged on the college floor. It’s even worse now

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