Why Jason Kidd would be better Nets coach than Greg Popovich

[Lalouie]

I think it's because pops won't take the job.

being a priority isn't remotely the same as mutual . in fact pops to nets is the very definition of pie in the sky

[The_Hater]

Yes, but we've also had the pleasure, as well.

- He did a good job with the Nets, and in retrospect, was absolutely right in wanting more team-oriented players and less big names, as King and Prokhy had been pursuing for years.

- He did a great job in making #15 pick Giannis the focal point of the Bucks, and left the team much better off than when he took over.

That said, as both a Nets and a Kidd fan, and outside of getting Pop, I'd rather stick with Vaughn for now. He's shown a strong rapport with his players, and other than the inevitable Raptors sweep, his results speak for themselves.

But this prevalent idea that Kidd is a terrible coach or something is just BS. He's clearly not in Budenholzer's league yet, but he's still fairly new to the head coaching game and certainly has room to grow. Kidd also admitted that he learned a lot and would do some things differently, just what you'd want to hear from a youngish HC.

Kidd was the worst coach in the league during his time with the Bucks. He had one pretty good season in his first year with the Bucks before the entire league figured out his gimmicky defensive scheme, but once that happened he was an absolute dumpster fire of a coach with next to no redeeming qualities.

I don't disagree, but what I said above is also true...

Why would you want your team to hire a coach that you just agreed was likely the worst coach in the league at his last stop? There are undoubtedly better choices available.

[Anfernee1]

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[Perishable517]

If Popovic were to die tommorow, his corpse would still be a better option than Kidd.

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[SMTBSI]

Yes. But only so Carl2680 can make a triumphant return.

[gigantes]

Kidd was the worst coach in the league during his time with the Bucks. He had one pretty good season in his first year with the Bucks before the entire league figured out his gimmicky defensive scheme, but once that happened he was an absolute dumpster fire of a coach with next to no redeeming qualities.

I don't disagree, but what I said above is also true...

Why would you want your team to hire a coach that you just agreed was likely the worst coach in the league at his last stop? There are undoubtedly better choices available.

Fans could be legit frustrated with him and spit out the 'worst coach in the league' hyperbole, and that's the part I agree with. That's just hyperbole and fans being fans, though. But look at Kidd's coaching record and the situations he started with and you'll find someone who stumbled a bit in the beginning, then turned things around dramatically. That's a really good sign IMO.

The fact that Kidd couldn't take the Bucks to the next level is a legit criticism, but not so unexpected for someone who threw himself in to the fire with little prior experience. I don't hold that against him. Those who do...

Once again, this is why context matters.

[Dupp]

Pop and Kyrie are a terrible fit

[Prokorov]

Jason Kidd knows the Nets organization. He also knows potential rivals Bucks and Lakers inner workings and their plays which would be one of the Nets biggest rivals. Kyrie idolized him growing up and Kidd played with as good a scorer in Dirk and won a championship. And Nets wouldn't have to give up assets to get him.

Reasons Kidd is NOT a better option than popovich:

1) Popvich is 100000 times the coach kidd is
2) Popvich has coached both kyrie and durant already with team USA
3) Kidd is a not a good basketball coach
4) Kidd was terrible his first stint as coach, especially managing egos
5) Kidd is a terrible human being who has now left the nets twice in terrible fashion (once as player once as coach)

Kidd would be my absolute last choice for head coach of the nets. id rather let kyrie be player coach

[Richard Miller]

Kidd is younger. That's about it.

[blackcosmos]

kenny Atkinson is a better coach than Jason kidd

oh wait

[Anfernee1]

kenny Atkinson is a better coach than Jason kidd

oh wait

Anyone is a better coach than Kidd except for Alvin Gentry

[MagicBagley18]

There’s not a scenario on the planet where Jason Kidd is a better coach for any team than pop, sorry mr. Kidd

[The_Hater]

I don't disagree, but what I said above is also true...

Why would you want your team to hire a coach that you just agreed was likely the worst coach in the league at his last stop? There are undoubtedly better choices available.

Fans could be legit frustrated with him and spit out the 'worst coach in the league' hyperbole, and that's the part I agree with. That's just hyperbole and fans being fans, though. But look at Kidd's coaching record and the situations he started with and you'll find someone who stumbled a bit in the beginning, then turned things around dramatically. That's a really good sign IMO.

The fact that Kidd couldn't take the Bucks to the next level is a legit criticism, but not so unexpected for someone who threw himself in to the fire with little prior experience. I don't hold that against him. Those who do...

Once again, this is why context matters.

Fair points but I do think he was in the running for league’s worst coach in Milwaukee, I don’t think it’s the hyperbole you think it is. And I also think fans dismiss the possibility that coaches, just like players, can improve at their craft

I just think the Nets s are sitting there with what looks like a very good, very deep roster next season and they should go out and get the best coach they can find instead of taking a risk that a failed coach can suddenly become good. That doesn’t usually create respect with the players in the locker room. And you as a Nets fan should want somebody better than Kidd so they can reach their potential. KD and Kyrie have exporation dates on them so the team doesn’t have 2 seasons to screw around with he wrong head coach.

[blackcosmos]

kenny Atkinson is a better coach than Jason kidd

oh wait

Anyone is a better coach than Kidd except for Alvin Gentry

Atkinson is a damn good coach and the nets let him go. So in essence, it's not about coaching ability. It is about who KD and Kyrie would support.

[old skool]

Kidd has never been a clear success as an NBA coach, but it would be wrong to imply that his departure from Milwaukee led to the Bucks emergence as a contender.

In Kidd's final full season as Bucks head coach, he had a 22-year old Giannis Antetokounmpo and mish-mash roster. Khris Middleton only appeared in 29 games as he was recovering from a major industry. Every other player on that roster has since been replaced.

Since then the Bucks added Eric Bledose, Brook Lopez, Wes Matthews, George Hill, Robin Lopez, Marvin Williams, Pat Connaughton, Ersan Ilyasova, Donte DiVincenzo, and Kyle Korver. Other than those players, a healthy Middleton and a Greek Freak that has developed into a two time MVP, the team is the same.

[boomershadow]

I think Kidd will spend more time as an assistant before taking another head coaching job.

But because his name is recognizable, almost every article, talking head show, or tweet will mention him as a possibility for any coaching vacancy, either real or hypothetical.

[Sharcm1]

Hell no. Kidd was my favorite player. I watched him on the Suns and then the nets. Then mavs. I watched as coach of the nets. I want Pop. Kidd will not be a good coach for the nets. I think Pop would be best. Even though I don’t think it will happen. One can dream though.

[gigantes]

kenny Atkinson is a better coach than Jason kidd

oh wait

Anyone is a better coach than Kidd except for Alvin Gentry

Atkinson is a damn good coach and the nets let him go. So in essence, it's not about coaching ability. It is about who KD and Kyrie would support.

That's assuming KD and Kyrie have a huge influence on hiring & firing, which is only just an idea. It may be real and it may be nothing but smoke and mirrors.

If you followed along with what was said (even by Marks) after Atkinson & the Nets parted ways, it's pretty clear he was planning on exiting the door at the end of this season anyway. Instead, it sounds a lot like he got burned out and decided to end things early. Welp, it happens.

But the theory that the Nets would just fire Kenny mid-season because of KD & Kyrie, after all the things he'd done for the team across the years, makes very little sense to me. Everyone outside of Atkinson just looks terrible in that scenario, and it would be pretty crazy for them not to realise that.

Also, those reporting said multiple times that various players were being increasingly resistant to Kenny, and that's classically a time when a coach decides to walk. That's why I believe he was the one who forced things, not the team.

[MaxZaslofskyJr]

Jason Kidd knows the Nets organization. He also knows potential rivals Bucks and Lakers inner workings and their plays which would be one of the Nets biggest rivals. Kyrie idolized him growing up and Kidd played with as good a scorer in Dirk and won a championship. And Nets wouldn't have to give up assets to get him.

Dear nycefnl, no one but you thinks that, your son, Jason should ever have a job with the Nets again. You're a good mom for trying though.

[gigantes]

Why would you want your team to hire a coach that you just agreed was likely the worst coach in the league at his last stop? There are undoubtedly better choices available.

Fans could be legit frustrated with him and spit out the 'worst coach in the league' hyperbole, and that's the part I agree with. That's just hyperbole and fans being fans, though. But look at Kidd's coaching record and the situations he started with and you'll find someone who stumbled a bit in the beginning, then turned things around dramatically. That's a really good sign IMO.

The fact that Kidd couldn't take the Bucks to the next level is a legit criticism, but not so unexpected for someone who threw himself in to the fire with little prior experience. I don't hold that against him. Those who do...

Once again, this is why context matters.

Fair points but I do think he was in the running for league’s worst coach in Milwaukee, I don’t think it’s the hyperbole you think it is. And I also think fans dismiss the possibility that coaches, just like players, can improve at their craft

I just think the Nets s are sitting there with what looks like a very good, very deep roster next season and they should go out and get the best coach they can find instead of taking a risk that a failed coach can suddenly become good. That doesn’t usually create respect with the players in the locker room. And you as a Nets fan should want somebody better than Kidd so they can reach their potential. KD and Kyrie have exporation dates on them so the team doesn’t have 2 seasons to screw around with he wrong head coach.

I suggest reading "old skool's" comment above. When you look at it season by season, Kidd actually had a couple brilliant seasons, one solid season, and a couple disappointing ones. I'm just not going to be one of those who slams him for the disappointing ones and doesn't take the context in to account, or doesn't give him credit for his positives. But if I was a Bucks fan, I can understand feeling differently.

Also, I never said I wanted Kidd for our HC. I think it would probably be good for him to stay an assistant for a while longer. Like I said, I doubt Pop moves, and there's a good argument for keeping Vaughn even though he's a noobie as a HC.

Our team isn't necessarily all that great and all that deep, either. There's huge question marks right from the top, like how Kyrie's going to hold up with his chronic shoulder issue, how an aging KD's going to look coming back from a typically severe sports injury, whether LeVert's health will hold up and how he'll function moving back to a 3rd / 4th option combo guard role, and what we're going to be able to get from our generally underperforming pool of forwards and big men talent. Payroll issues and the desire for another star may lead to big changes too, and those don't always work out.

I think the Nets will be a good team, probably a solid team, but we haven't really accomplished anything yet. It remains to be seen if we can move in to the tier of Boston, MIL and Toronto. Those are really good teams, so unlike most Nets fans, I'm optimistic, but not assuming anything.