All Giannis does is travel, charge to the hole and can’t play in half court set. How is he in top 5 NBA players talks?

[Cyrusman122000]

You guys wanna know what laughable?

There were people on this board who were saying Giannis is better or on the same level as 2004 KG

I hope no one ever makes that comparison again

[LouisLitt]

Its not. Fortunately so.

Lol yes it is.

Why do you think there are not a bunch of 5 foot 9 dudes out there if size isn’t important? It’s an absolute must for you to be an elite athlete in the NBA to be an impactful player.

Lebron isn’t in the NBA if he is 6 foot and pounds with average athleticism. And by average I don’t mean NBA average, I mean like can’t touch the rim like an average American average.

It would be a pretty boring sport if you were right. Fortunately theres plenty examples out there of unathletic, but highly skilled and intelligent players outplaying stupid high leapers.

Nah he's 100% correct.

That's why people are saying Luka will be an all-time great.

You know, the above-the-rim Luka who can dunk from the free-throw line and has a historic wing-span.

It's also why freak athletes like Gerald Green and Javale McGee are going to be hall-of-famers.

[TheBoi10]

You guys wanna know what laughable?

There were people on this board who were saying Giannis is better or on the same level as 2004 KG

I hope no one ever makes that comparison again

We were well past KG, we were at Prime Shaq + DPOY defense

[D.Brasco]

You guys wanna know what laughable?

There were people on this board who were saying Giannis is better or on the same level as 2004 KG

I hope no one ever makes that comparison again

We were well past KG, we were at Prime Shaq + DPOY defense

I was shocked at how many people were saying at the early part of this season that he had already become better than prime f'ing Shaq.

Talk about a huge insult to Shaq.

[Heej]

You forgot to mention how much fouling this man gets away with lol

[MrPerfect1]

He got exposed in fiba

Yup FIBA refs arent corporate shills for the nba and actually call travels and charges

Can't blame the NBA. They have a history of trying to favor the Bucks. They want some of that big time WI $$$$. I know the MIL market would be my 1st choice to help, wayyyy ahead of NY.

[An Unbiased Fan]

Because of the analytics stuff.

[MrPerfect1]

You guys wanna know what laughable?

There were people on this board who were saying Giannis is better or on the same level as 2004 KG

I hope no one ever makes that comparison again

Yeah, Giannis sure can't compare to KG and all the Playoff success he had. That Wolves Dynasty was quite memorable.

Also, on a team with 3 other Future Hall of Famers and winding up with 1 Title from it. Impressive stuff.

[Dominator83]

He got exposed in fiba

Yup FIBA refs arent corporate shills for the nba and actually call travels and charges

Can't blame the NBA. They have a history of trying to favor the Bucks. They want some of that big time WI $$$$. I know the MIL market would be my 1st choice to help, wayyyy ahead of NY.

The NBA markets players not teams

[nizaam]

You guys wanna know what laughable?

There were people on this board who were saying Giannis is better or on the same level as 2004 KG

I hope no one ever makes that comparison again

We were well past KG, we were at Prime Shaq + DPOY defense

I was shocked at how many people were saying at the early part of this season that he had already become better than prime f'ing Shaq.

Talk about a huge insult to Shaq.

Prime shaq was an unstoppable force. Teams had to have guys like Eric Dampier and Brendan Haywood cuz of him. Easily the most dominant player ever. If he was in the league today every team would have to sign a couple big centers. Unfair to compare Giannis to him

[MrPerfect1]

Yup FIBA refs arent corporate shills for the nba and actually call travels and charges

Can't blame the NBA. They have a history of trying to favor the Bucks. They want some of that big time WI $$$$. I know the MIL market would be my 1st choice to help, wayyyy ahead of NY.

The NBA markets players not teams

Randomly choosing to Market Giannis instead of AJ Barrett, Zach Lavine, and other players in much bigger markets is an odd choice

[tundraknight]

He got exposed in fiba

Yeah remember when the former Cavalier Anderson Varejao outplayed Giannis in the 2019 Fiba.

Watch on YouTube

[HeartBreakKid]

Not saying Giannis is as good as him, but people keep saying Shaq would never get swept and things like that seem to be oblivious that Shaq was actually swept in every single round at least once - including upsets or pick em matches.

So yes, Shaq was pretty stoppable....if you're talking about when Shaq won his first title then that's when he was 27 years old - Giannis is 25.

[YogurtProducer]

Lol yes it is.

Why do you think there are not a bunch of 5 foot 9 dudes out there if size isn’t important? It’s an absolute must for you to be an elite athlete in the NBA to be an impactful player.

Lebron isn’t in the NBA if he is 6 foot and pounds with average athleticism. And by average I don’t mean NBA average, I mean like can’t touch the rim like an average American average.

It would be a pretty boring sport if you were right. Fortunately theres plenty examples out there of unathletic, but highly skilled and intelligent players outplaying stupid high leapers.

Nah he's 100% correct.

That's why people are saying Luka will be an all-time great.

You know, the above-the-rim Luka who can dunk from the free-throw line and has a historic wing-span.

It's also why freak athletes like Gerald Green and Javale McGee are going to be hall-of-famers.

... Luka is an elite athlete...

Sure he isn’t jumping 40 inches and dunking on everyone but he has incredible coordination and fluidity for a 6 foot 8 dude.

You literally are talking about the Uber athletes like McGee who wouldn’t be in the league, if it was not for their incredible **** athletic ability. Giannis is the rare Uber athlete who also has great ball handling, feel, and IQ and some semblance of skill to push him over the top.

I hate to break it to you guys but you don’t make the NBA without being a top athlete. It’s that simple.

This isn’t ground breaking or new lol

[gorz]

Hes never been a top 5 player. I dont care if he wins back to back mvps if you can't carry your teams when games matter most you are not a top 5 player in the league.

[picko]

We had these threads about LeBron back in the day. They are always dumb. Basically every great player in the history of the game - Bill Russell excluded - has had **** playoff moments. It happens.

Shaq has a tonne of failures (see below). Timmy Duncan crashed out of the playoffs regularly. Ever hear of 'Tragic' Johnson. Jordan failed again and again and again. LeBron melted under the bright lights in 2011 and then became the greatest playoff performer of his generation.

The advanced numbers for Giannis aren't lying - he is super effective - even if his game is designed around charging to the basket. He consistently puts okay talent in a position to compete for a title. Not that dissimilar to a young LeBron. I'm not particularly concerned that he has had some playoff failures. As I said, playoff failures are very normal.

Not saying Giannis is as good as him, but people keep saying Shaq would never get swept and things like that seem to be oblivious that Shaq was actually swept in every single round at least once - including upsets or pick em matches.

So yes, Shaq was pretty stoppable....if you're talking about when Shaq won his first title then that's when he was 27 years old - Giannis is 25.

Yep, Shaq was swept six times in his career including five times in six seasons. The re-writing of his career to suggest that this couldn't happen to him is absurd. In most of those series Shaq's team was at least the equal of his opponent.

Shaq's playoff record at Giannis' age wasn't particularly great. Real GM - had it existed back then - would have had pages of threads about what an overrated loser he was.

[Braggins]

He also eat hot chip and lie

[Infinite Llamas]

We had these threads about LeBron back in the day. They are always dumb. Basically every great player in the history of the game - Bill Russell excluded - has had **** playoff moments. It happens.

Shaq has a tonne of failures (see below). Timmy Duncan crashed out of the playoffs regularly. Ever hear of 'Tragic' Johnson. Jordan failed again and again and again. LeBron melted under the bright lights in 2011 and then became the greatest playoff performer of his generation.

The advanced numbers for Giannis aren't lying - he is super effective - even if his game is designed around charging to the basket. He consistently puts okay talent in a position to compete for a title. Not that dissimilar to a young LeBron. I'm not particularly concerned that he has had some playoff failures. As I said, playoff failures are very normal.

Not saying Giannis is as good as him, but people keep saying Shaq would never get swept and things like that seem to be oblivious that Shaq was actually swept in every single round at least once - including upsets or pick em matches.

So yes, Shaq was pretty stoppable....if you're talking about when Shaq won his first title then that's when he was 27 years old - Giannis is 25.

Yep, Shaq was swept six times in his career including five times in six seasons. The re-writing of his career to suggest that this couldn't happen to him is absurd. In most of those series Shaq's team was at least the equal of his opponent.

Shaq's playoff record at Giannis' age wasn't particularly great. Real GM - had it existed back then - would have had pages of threads about what an overrated loser he was.

Except lebron didn’t vanish in the fourth quarters (except that Dallas series) and always looked like the best player on the floor for the Cavs. This would be like if Mo Williams or Hughes would be carrying the Cavs back in the day and Lebron was just a spectator in the half court. Never happened.

[SOUL]

He also eat hot chip and lie

came here to post that

[Purdydrup]

Not saying Giannis is as good as him, but people keep saying Shaq would never get swept and things like that seem to be oblivious that Shaq was actually swept in every single round at least once - including upsets or pick em matches.

So yes, Shaq was pretty stoppable....if you're talking about when Shaq won his first title then that's when he was 27 years old - Giannis is 25.

Agreed. Shaq needed Kobe, and he also needed Wade. He wasn't winning those championships without that type of player. I think the same can be said for Giannis. He is a great player, but he needs that go to guy who can get buckets in the form of a Kobe or Wade.