Scout: Daniel Theis May Be Most Underrated Player in NBA

[celticfan42487]

That's a scout that is speaking like he's on First Take in order to be published.

Flip the two player and consider what would happen to both teams. That alone tells you how much it's not a **** wash.

Cs would be all set for the future if they had Bam on their team.

[kan_t]

The (Daniel) Theis-(Bam) Adebayo matchup? That’s sort of a wash. Theis is maybe the most underrated player in the league. He’s really good.

https://theathletic.com/2065490/


Do you guys agree ?

With the scout you quoted calling the matchup a wash, it just shows that Bam is the one who is underrated, not Theis.

[OrangeBlueSkies]

That's a scout that is speaking like he's on First Take in order to be published.

Flip the two player and consider what would happen to both teams. That alone tells you how much it's not a **** wash.

Cs would be all set for the future if they had Bam on their team.

You realize the argument is whether DT is the most underrated NBA player.

[Fencer reregistered]

His biggest weakness is rebounding and battling for position down low, bam killed Giannis and lopez, so that battle doenst bode well.

His other weakness is his hands. They aren't terrible, but they aren't as great as you want in a big man. Or maybe I'm being too harsh on him, since the numbers don't really back up my eyes on that.

[Fencer reregistered]

Hes that perfect player for a team that wants to build around other positions and then plug a effective Center in at a good price.

Unfortunately for us, I think he'll be a lot more expensive on his next contract.

[Saint Lazarus]

You better put some respek on my boy Edrice's name. He's not getting sonned by some 6' 4" center from Estonia.

[Feed Your Head]

It’s sure as hell not a wash lol, cmon son. Bam is a top 25 player, maybe top 20.

But Theis is really freaking good, and smart as hell. That was a serious find by Ainge.

Top 25? Really?

Is that really a stretch? He made the all star team, was 18th in PIPM, 30th in RPM, 22nd in RAPTOR, 13th in VORP, 21st in BPM. 16/10/5 while also being elite defensively, I don’t think I could name 25 guys who were better this season. Just because he doesn’t score a ton doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a huge impact on the game.

[Fencer reregistered]

It’s sure as hell not a wash lol, cmon son. Bam is a top 25 player, maybe top 20.

But Theis is really freaking good, and smart as hell. That was a serious find by Ainge.

Top 25? Really?

All-Stars automatically deserve to be at least evaluated for top25ness.

[Curmudgeon]

I remember 4 years ago when I was very high on Ante Zizic, especially after some of the nice things David Blatt had to say about him and his excellent stats in the Adriatic League. Then I watched film of a game in Germany, and there was some no-name guy completely outplaying Zizic; blocking shots and just toying with him. I learned later that the guy was Theis and that the Celtics were bringing him over. Chalk up another excellent signing to Benas Matkevicius, the Celtics' one-man European scouting department.

[Son Goku 25]

Theis is excellent, perfect big man for today's NBA

[Curmudgeon]

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[100proof]

It’s sure as hell not a wash lol, cmon son. Bam is a top 25 player, maybe top 20.

But Theis is really freaking good, and smart as hell. That was a serious find by Ainge.

Top 25? Really?

Is that really a stretch? He made the all star team, was 18th in PIPM, 30th in RPM, 22nd in RAPTOR, 13th in VORP, 21st in BPM. 16/10/5 while also being elite defensively, I don’t think I could name 25 guys who were better this season. Just because he doesn’t score a ton doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a huge impact on the game.

1) Giannis
2) Lebron
3) Kawhi
4) Harden
5) Luka
6) Jokic
7) Davis
8) Lillard
9) Tatum
10) Jimmy B
11) Embiid
12) KAT
13) Paul
14) Simmons
15) George
16) Gobert
17) Mitchell
18) Kyrie
19) Lowry
20) Beal
21) Westbrook
22) Trae Young
23) Kemba
24) Booker
25) Ingram
26) Brown
27) Ja
28) Zion
29) Siakam
30) Vuc

Bam, for me, is in that next tier of guys: including in no particular order
FVV
Jrue
Sabonis
Hayward
SAG
McCollum
Fox
KP
Collins
Lavine
Russell
Murray
Brogdon

[100proof]

It’s sure as hell not a wash lol, cmon son. Bam is a top 25 player, maybe top 20.

But Theis is really freaking good, and smart as hell. That was a serious find by Ainge.

Top 25? Really?

All-Stars automatically deserve to be at least evaluated for top25ness.

Naw, until they stop allowing Voting into the allstar games, and they stop picking players based on team records, the term "allstar" carries no weight. imo.

[Feed Your Head]

Top 25? Really?

All-Stars automatically deserve to be at least evaluated for top25ness.

Naw, until they stop allowing Voting into the allstar games, and they stop picking players based on team records, the term "allstar" carries no weight. imo.

Even without the fan vote, coaches and players voted him as an all star.

[celticfan42487]

That's a scout that is speaking like he's on First Take in order to be published.

Flip the two player and consider what would happen to both teams. That alone tells you how much it's not a **** wash.

Cs would be all set for the future if they had Bam on their team.

You realize the argument is whether DT is the most underrated NBA player.

You realize the quote is

"The (Daniel) Theis-(Bam) Adebayo matchup? That’s sort of a wash. Theis is maybe the most underrated player in the league. He’s really good."

If not spend the time to read the OP. It's one sentence in reply to that quote.

For anyone who can read that is about as little effort as it takes.

[100proof]

All-Stars automatically deserve to be at least evaluated for top25ness.

Naw, until they stop allowing Voting into the allstar games, and they stop picking players based on team records, the term "allstar" carries no weight. imo.

Even without the fan vote, coaches and players voted him as an all star.

Is it not the team coaches that pick the reserves?
And they are not allowed to pick from their own team?

[Feed Your Head]

Naw, until they stop allowing Voting into the allstar games, and they stop picking players based on team records, the term "allstar" carries no weight. imo.

Even without the fan vote, coaches and players voted him as an all star.

Is it not the team coaches that pick the reserves?
And they are not allowed to pick from their own team?

No, it’s all 30 coaches who vote. Media voted him as an all star as well, but most of the media sucks lol.

[OrangeBlueSkies]

That's a scout that is speaking like he's on First Take in order to be published.

Flip the two player and consider what would happen to both teams. That alone tells you how much it's not a **** wash.

Cs would be all set for the future if they had Bam on their team.

You realize the argument is whether DT is the most underrated NBA player.

You realize the quote is

"The (Daniel) Theis-(Bam) Adebayo matchup? That’s sort of a wash. Theis is maybe the most underrated player in the league. He’s really good."

If not spend the time to read the OP. It's one sentence in reply to that quote.

For anyone who can read that is about as little effort as it takes.

Pretty sure I’m aware of the quote and the OP. The title of my post is clear for anyone who can read. For those with even the slightest ability, they would be able to conclude that my post is focused on whether or not DT is the most underrated NBA player.


I’m glad you feel that Bam is the better player, but if DT played for Miami, he might see a bit of an uptick in usage. Boston is far and beyond the better team. Miami relies heavily on Bam, and if he isn’t productive, their chances of winning drop drastically.

[Feed Your Head]

Top 25? Really?

Is that really a stretch? He made the all star team, was 18th in PIPM, 30th in RPM, 22nd in RAPTOR, 13th in VORP, 21st in BPM. 16/10/5 while also being elite defensively, I don’t think I could name 25 guys who were better this season. Just because he doesn’t score a ton doesn’t mean he doesn’t have a huge impact on the game.

1) Giannis
2) Lebron
3) Kawhi
4) Harden
5) Luka
6) Jokic
7) Davis
8) Lillard
9) Tatum
10) Jimmy B
11) Embiid
12) KAT
13) Paul
14) Simmons
15) George
16) Gobert
17) Mitchell
18) Kyrie
19) Lowry
20) Beal
21) Westbrook
22) Trae Young
23) Kemba
24) Booker
25) Ingram
26) Brown
27) Ja
28) Zion
29) Siakam
30) Vuc

Bam, for me, is in that next tier of guys: including in no particular order
FVV
Jrue
Sabonis
Hayward
SAG
McCollum
Fox
KP
Collins
Lavine
Russell
Murray
Brogdon

I’d take him over everyone on the bottom list easily, and over Ingram, Trae, Jaylen, Westbrook, Vuc, Siakam as well.

I just value the overall impact he brings over the scoring of other guys. Impact stats love him for the same reason. I’ll stop derailing the Theis thread now lol.

[Johnny Bball]

He's got to be underrated by me at least since I don't think he's all that special. He's more important to the team than some others simply because they lack any real talent behind him.

And yeah, Bam is so much better.