Is Luka-Sorry, the Mavericks going to miss the playoffs?

[Scalabrine]

As far as this season goes:

1. Lakers
2. Clippers
3. Jazz
4. Nuggets

Are all definitely better than them.

5. Blazers
6. Suns
7. Grizzlies

are rosters that I think are better too.

Warriors, Spurs and them are all in that next tier in my opinion and I wouldn't put it past any of the other West teams to be able to put it together and make a run outside of the Wolves, who just fell too far back with the KAT injury/Covid. Pelicans have the talent, Rockets finally seem settled and have a fun roster, the Kings have some nice pieces. I feel like all of those teams could easily beat the Mavericks.

[FelixD]

Their roster is sub-par, you cant expect nothing from Dallas when Doncic is their best scorer,playmaker, rebounder and arguably their best defender this season. That is bad roster construction when they are so reliant of one player.

[Texas Chuck]

I think the Mavericks are in a weird spot this season. They are saving flexibility for this offseason, but they are only gonna have capspace if they get rid of THj, Richardson, James Johnson, WCS, Boban. They can't trade any picks till 2025 because 21 and 23 are owned by NYK.

It's bad. In theory Dallas could dump Powell and maybe Burke, keep Richardson's cap hold and still add a major, if not quite max free agent, but more realistically if they don't make any moves this season they are essentially deciding between trying to keep THJ/Richardson(the others all expendable and/or cheap) or going for one of the remaining free agents. That pool has shrunk to a point that I think they should avoid it.

But then the problem is as you point out--no real assets to trade. So they would be looking to take on some ugly money in exchange for more talent--and this is the way they historically kept re-stocking around Dirk. Then just stay over the cap.

Giannis was the clear path and now there isn't one. Because this is the last off-season before Luka is maxed. It's not all doom and gloom of course. I mean how many teams would trade their situations to have Luka? But the path to contention isn't obvious.

[TheBonzaiEffect]

As far as this season goes:

1. Lakers
2. Clippers
3. Jazz
4. Nuggets

Are all definitely better than them.

5. Blazers
6. Suns
7. Grizzlies

are rosters that I think are better too.

Warriors, Spurs and them are all in that next tier in my opinion and I wouldn't put it past any of the other West teams to be able to put it together and make a run outside of the Wolves, who just fell too far back with the KAT injury/Covid. Pelicans have the talent, Rockets finally seem settled and have a fun roster, the Kings have some nice pieces. I feel like all of those teams could easily beat the Mavericks.

Not sure the Grizz belong there, but agree with the others.

[BrooklynDynasty]

Luka is a great defender, or so I hear, so now that Zinger is back it should be a lock!

[Lunartic]

I’m a broken record, but it’s BAD COACHING!

The supporting cast isn’t terrible, but the team is. Get rid of this overrated has been and see what the Mavs can do. I guarantee it’s better than this

Carlisle is a top-3 coach in the NBA.

My hair is going to turn completely white if I keep seeing this. Can someone explain exactly what in the past 10 seasons he has done to earn this ‘Top 3’ title? Mavs haven’t made it out of the 1st round once since the title run.

Without great assistant coaches (Stotts, Casey, Silas, etc), Carlisle is nothing

Tell me pal, which of the last 8 seasons should the Mavs have not only made the playoffs but also advanced to the semi-finals?

The issue is a lack of talent on the roster. KP is either injured or rusty or both. THJ is a third option masquerading as a second. Seth Curry was traded.

Carlisle has coached overall bad teams to playoff berth and created one of the greatest offensive systems in NBA history. Every single team in the NBA sans the Celtics/Spurs/Heat/King (b/c they're the kings) would hire him.

[dirkforpres]

Carlisle is a top-3 coach in the NBA.

My hair is going to turn completely white if I keep seeing this. Can someone explain exactly what in the past 10 seasons he has done to earn this ‘Top 3’ title? Mavs haven’t made it out of the 1st round once since the title run.

Without great assistant coaches (Stotts, Casey, Silas, etc), Carlisle is nothing

Tell me pal, which of the last 8 seasons should the Mavs have not only made the playoffs but also advanced to the semi-finals?

The issue is a lack of talent on the roster. KP is either injured or rusty or both. THJ is a third option masquerading as a second. Seth Curry was traded.

Carlisle has coached overall bad teams to playoff berth and created one of the greatest offensive systems in NBA history. Every single team in the NBA sans the Celtics/Spurs/Heat/King (b/c they're the kings) would hire him.

That’s so played out. I’m not saying he wasn’t a good coach in the past, he just isn’t now and frankly, hasn’t been for years. He’s been coasting off having a hall of fame star, past accomplishments, and good assistants for a decade now. If he was as good of a coach as people want to give him credit for, how come the Mavs have no players that are assets? Shouldn’t a good coach be making the roster better? Yet somehow Luka is the only one that routinely shows he’s worthy of a starter role.

[Scalabrine]

As far as this season goes:

1. Lakers
2. Clippers
3. Jazz
4. Nuggets

Are all definitely better than them.

5. Blazers
6. Suns
7. Grizzlies

are rosters that I think are better too.

Warriors, Spurs and them are all in that next tier in my opinion and I wouldn't put it past any of the other West teams to be able to put it together and make a run outside of the Wolves, who just fell too far back with the KAT injury/Covid. Pelicans have the talent, Rockets finally seem settled and have a fun roster, the Kings have some nice pieces. I feel like all of those teams could easily beat the Mavericks.

Not sure the Grizz belong there, but agree with the others.

The Grizzlies continually get underrated on here. They weathered the storm during Morants ankle sprain, Jaren Jackson is gonna be back soon and now they've won 5 in a row.

Val/JJj/Dieng
JJj/Clarke/Tillman
Anderson/Brooks/Konchar
Brooks/Allen/Melton
Morant/Jones/Bane

Thats a deep ass team and it has the star power with JJj and Morant. the Morant/JJj combo is worse than the Luka/KP combo, but the rest of the team is soo much better. They also have the mysterious Justise Winslow that you'd assume would eventually come back and play.

[basketballRob]

Fournier for Luka.

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[John Murdoch]

Not the easiest team to upgrade in terms of tradeable assetts . KP and picks is really all they have to offer anyone. Free agency is their only hope

[Texas Chuck]

If he was as good of a coach as people want to give him credit for, how come the Mavs have no players that are assets? Shouldn’t a good coach be making the roster better?

Let's look at all the Mavs draft picks that failed under Rick Carlisle and you tell us which ones are thriving in the NBA:

Free Roddy B
Dominique Jones
Shan Foster
Justin Anderson
Satnam Singh
Josh Agognon
Jared Cunningham
Bernard James
Jae Crowder -- played well under Rick Carlisle
Shane Larkin
Rickey Ledo
Gal Mekel
AJ Hammons
DFS(not drafted) good under rick
Yogi(not drafted) basically only good under Rick
Dennis Smith Jr
Shane Larkin

Not to mention all the times Donnie traded out of the draft or they traded down.

You literally cannot find one single draft pick Dallas made where Rick failed to develop them and they went on to have major success. You are blaming the wrong guy. Donnie sucks at talent evaluation of college players--this is well known. If not for his international prowess Dallas would be in worse shape.

[13th Man]

They haven't had everyone healthy yet at the same time. Has Porzingis even played on game with Josh Richardson? I don't think so.

Let's give them a chance before jumping off the deep end.

[Bob8]

If he was as good of a coach as people want to give him credit for, how come the Mavs have no players that are assets? Shouldn’t a good coach be making the roster better?

Let's look at all the Mavs draft picks that failed under Rick Carlisle and you tell us which ones are thriving in the NBA:

Free Roddy B
Dominique Jones
Shan Foster
Justin Anderson
Satnam Singh
Josh Agognon
Jared Cunningham
Bernard James
Jae Crowder -- played well under Rick Carlisle
Shane Larkin
Rickey Ledo
Gal Mekel
AJ Hammons
DFS(not drafted) good under rick
Yogi(not drafted) basically only good under Rick
Dennis Smith Jr
Shane Larkin

Not to mention all the times Donnie traded out of the draft or they traded down.

You literally cannot find one single draft pick Dallas made where Rick failed to develop them and they went on to have major success. You are blaming the wrong guy. Donnie sucks at talent evaluation of college players--this is well known. If not for his international prowess Dallas would be in worse shape.

You're telling us that all players evaluations is doing Donnie alone?

[NZB2323]

The team has been derailed by COVID and injuries.

[Texas Chuck]

If he was as good of a coach as people want to give him credit for, how come the Mavs have no players that are assets? Shouldn’t a good coach be making the roster better?

Let's look at all the Mavs draft picks that failed under Rick Carlisle and you tell us which ones are thriving in the NBA:

Free Roddy B
Dominique Jones
Shan Foster
Justin Anderson
Satnam Singh
Josh Agognon
Jared Cunningham
Bernard James
Jae Crowder -- played well under Rick Carlisle
Shane Larkin
Rickey Ledo
Gal Mekel
AJ Hammons
DFS(not drafted) good under rick
Yogi(not drafted) basically only good under Rick
Dennis Smith Jr
Shane Larkin

Not to mention all the times Donnie traded out of the draft or they traded down.

You literally cannot find one single draft pick Dallas made where Rick failed to develop them and they went on to have major success. You are blaming the wrong guy. Donnie sucks at talent evaluation of college players--this is well known. If not for his international prowess Dallas would be in worse shape.

You're telling us that all players evaluations is doing Donnie alone?

Obviously not--they have scouts. But yeah I'm blaming it on Donnie and not Rick. Rick can't magically make terrible players good, but he has consistently gotten good performances out of players who have struggled elsewhere. Especially guards. Look at Barea and Yogi and Monta and Mayo and Burke and Felton. Rick got way more out of them than anyone thought was still there.

But also bigs like Wright and Bass and Aminu and Salah and he's made WCS a rotation guy somehow.

Rick isn't perfect as a coach, but he's not a guy who is wasting talent that's for sure.

[Bob8]

Let's look at all the Mavs draft picks that failed under Rick Carlisle and you tell us which ones are thriving in the NBA:

Free Roddy B
Dominique Jones
Shan Foster
Justin Anderson
Satnam Singh
Josh Agognon
Jared Cunningham
Bernard James
Jae Crowder -- played well under Rick Carlisle
Shane Larkin
Rickey Ledo
Gal Mekel
AJ Hammons
DFS(not drafted) good under rick
Yogi(not drafted) basically only good under Rick
Dennis Smith Jr
Shane Larkin

Not to mention all the times Donnie traded out of the draft or they traded down.

You literally cannot find one single draft pick Dallas made where Rick failed to develop them and they went on to have major success. You are blaming the wrong guy. Donnie sucks at talent evaluation of college players--this is well known. If not for his international prowess Dallas would be in worse shape.

You're telling us that all players evaluations is doing Donnie alone?

Obviously not--they have scouts. But yeah I'm blaming it on Donnie and not Rick. Rick can't magically make terrible players good, but he has consistently gotten good performances out of players who have struggled elsewhere. Especially guards. Look at Barea and Yogi and Monta and Mayo and Burke and Felton. Rick got way more out of them than anyone thought was still there.

I'm not blaming Rick for anything, but I would expect coach has something to say which players he wants.

[dickfox]

Ha! I see what you did there because Luka is the entire team.

[Swish1906]

Luka has been a one-man team offensively. They've been missing a lot of their players, but even when everyone was healthy, they didn't seem very good. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Dallas fan, but this year the Mavs have been hard to watch. I know it might be too early to start talking about this, but the Mavericks are really, really bad.

So you are a Mavs fan but you dont know that the Mavs didnt have any phase in this season where everyone was healthy?

First was KP out and pretty much a few days before his return covid hit the teams with four guys out for three weeks (and two player being reaally sick).

Last night was the first game three of the covid guys returned but they all played flat. And Kleber as important guy is still out.

So actually no one can know so far how good or bad the healthy full roster looks like

[Mickey8]

Half their team isn't there, and 2/3 of their games have been on the road. They will be fine.

I don't think that home court means much this season.

[tidho]

Drummond would help them, and they have the contracts to get a deal done.