Kristaps Porzingis Is Indeed Available

Post #41 » by **G R E Y** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:17 pm

Bornstellar wrote:Hope the Spurs fascination with him has passed as I would not want him on the roster at his price. His defense is GOAT level bad

Yeah we were definitely gifted the ability to dodge a bullet there. I think the fever for him has diminished given his availability and level of two-way play.

Post #42 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:18 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:I love watching KP when he is on. He is a delight. That being said, there must be some real motivation issues as no way is he this bad a defender. It has to be effort, and the eye test says the same IMO. I think Zinger might not only have some attitude issues, but he also strikes me as the type that doesnt eat and breath basketball. I wouldnt be surprised if he is a regular in the Dallas party scene, he just seems like that type. And that is fine if it doesnt affect your play, but I really think it does.

He missed last night with a back issue and reports were he's been dealing with it all season. Which fits the visual of him never getting down into a stance. So it might not be lack of effort as much as a back issue. Either way, it's a problem.

I have no idea if he parties with the COVID restrictions, but I know there was that famous photo of him with a ripped shirt and bleeding after some incident, so certainly he's been into the nightlife scene.

From what I've seen, he seems like a guy who cares about how he plays and wants to be good and takes ownership when he plays poorly, but I have no idea if he's more Dirk or Nash in terms of finding a gym versus finding a party.

But forget his work ethic, if you have a 7'3" guy with knee and back issues that's a major concern.

gottamakeit · Post #43 » by **gottamakeit** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:21 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:fwiw (which is nothing) Cuban is denying this through known Mavs mouthpiece Brad Townsend.

Yeah, that's to be expected. Standard practice by Cubes to deny the rumors.

mg · Post #44 » by mg » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:22 pm

How about Kemba for Porzingis? Both these guys have issues that go way beyond their recent bad play. I think they both have medical issues. At least Kemba might help the Mavs in their backcourt and his contract expires one year earlier...just thinking out loud here..

PMONSTER · Post #45 » by **PMONSTER** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:23 pm

Bornstellar wrote:Hope the Spurs fascination with him has passed as I would not want him on the roster at his price. His defense is GOAT level bad

Really!? I had other issues with him but has his defense always been bad?

Is he another Bargnani????

Celts17Pride · Post #46 » by **Celts17Pride** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:27 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:
Posted in the trade forum:

Dallas: Kemba, Theis, Green, Edwards 2 2nd round picks
Boston: Porzingis, Richardson, Powell

Boston gets upgrade for the bigs and wing help in Richardson

Dallas get Kemba to team up with Luka and most importantly opens up cap space for Dallas next year to offer someone a max deal

This is a Richardson too far.

Richardson was in there to open up max cap space for the Mavs next year. I'm sure some variation of the above deal could work if that's the direction the Mavs want to go in for the future.

matt6715 · Post #47 » by **matt6715** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:27 pm

PMONSTER wrote:
Bornstellar wrote:Hope the Spurs fascination with him has passed as I would not want him on the roster at his price. His defense is GOAT level bad

Really!? I had other issues with him but has his defense always been bad?

Is he another Bargnani????

He's never going to be able to shadow a guard on the perimeter but last year he was generally good enough and mobile enough to deter guys especially once they got to the rim. He improved his rebounding and was an actual presence defensively... this year he's been a turnstile.

His lack of mobility means he drops on every pick and roll and teams like Portland, Phoenix, Utah, etc. just would constantly put him into the PnR, he would drop, and their guards would just rise up for easy shots.

mg · Post #48 » by mg » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:28 pm

KP was never much of a rebounder but he was blocking almost one more shot a game when he was with the Knicks. His attempted FT attempts and steals are way down this season too. I think injuries must have something to do with it.

Post #49 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:28 pm

PMONSTER wrote:
Bornstellar wrote:Hope the Spurs fascination with him has passed as I would not want him on the roster at his price. His defense is GOAT level bad

Really!? I had other issues with him but has his defense always been bad?

Is he another Bargnani????

No his defense hasn't always been bad. He's a solid rim protector who isn't great in space--he's a center.

This year however he's been brutal. Looks almost like old man Dirk with guys just dribbling around him like he's stuck in cement. Dallas hopes its just temporary injury issues. He talked a lot about wanting to win a DPOY(I know I know) when he arrived so I don't think he just doesn't care to defend, I think right now he simply can't.

But its pretty bad when Dwight Powell or WCS are major defensive upgrades, but they currently are.

User_friendly · Post #50 » by **User_friendly** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:29 pm

I think there hasn't been enough time this season to confirm he won't reach, let's say, bubble's level, which is quite good IMO. What makes you guys think he won't continue improving to reach that level?
And, let's suppose Dallas truly believe he won't be good or healthy enough. They should know better than anyone. But then, what makes you think another team will "bite", so that Dallas will get someone better than Porzingis?

Post #51 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:29 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:
Posted in the trade forum:

Dallas: Kemba, Theis, Green, Edwards 2 2nd round picks
Boston: Porzingis, Richardson, Powell

Boston gets upgrade for the bigs and wing help in Richardson

Dallas get Kemba to team up with Luka and most importantly opens up cap space for Dallas next year to offer someone a max deal

This is a Richardson too far.

Richardson was in there to open up max cap space for the Mavs next year. I'm sure some variation of the above deal could work if that's the direction the Mavs want to go in for the future.

Richardson is going to opt out almost certainly and if he doesn't Dallas could easily move him into space in the off-season on his number. That's not really doing Dallas a favor. He doesn't hold a lot of value, but no reason to just gift him to Boston either.

pcbothwel · Post #52 » by **pcbothwel** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:30 pm

Seems like a perfect fit with GSW next to Draymond.
KP + Powell for Wiggins + Wiseman seems obvious.

GSW: Get a dynamic player that fits well with Draymond. They dont take on more salary and they dont give up the Minny pick.
DAL: Wiggins give them a strong defensive wing (Cant believe I just typed that) and Wiseman as a legit big man prospect. They get out of KP's last year and Powells contract.

There are variations to this trade that bot teams might prefer (Pick vs Wiseman... 3rd team getting Wiseman, etc.)

Maybe Wiseman + Hardaway to PDX for CJ

Doncic
CJ
Wiggins
Kleber
WCS

Post #53 » by **Duke4life831** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:31 pm

DroseReturnChi wrote:
DIO wrote:

Read on Twitter

this is interesting. wiggs, minn, wiseman for KP, Rich do it Steph.
your new death lineup 2022 steph,klay,Rich, draymond, KP.

Minn as in the Minny draft pick?

mg · Post #54 » by mg » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:34 pm

I saw the Mavs play against Golden State and the Pels. Sorry to say but Porzingis looked really bad in both games. In his current state he doesn't stand a chance going up against the elite frontcourt players like AD. I highly doubt the Warriors would give up the Minn pick in that type of deal but who knows..

clyde21 · Post #55 » by **clyde21** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:38 pm

lol no way the Warriors are giving up a top 5 pick potentially for zinger at this point never gonna happen

zshawn10 · Post #56 » by **zshawn10** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:44 pm

Read on Twitter

Swish1906 · Post #57 » by **Swish1906** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:44 pm

And Cuban told the Athletic that the reports are bull. But keep on giving trash reporters with BS sources their necessary clicks. Since they need clicks not to get laid off

GregOden · Post #58 » by **GregOden** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:45 pm

DIO wrote:

Read on Twitter

Warriors finally found a trade partner for Wiggins?

Swish1906 · Post #59 » by **Swish1906** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:45 pm

gottamakeit wrote:
matt6715 wrote:
gottamakeit wrote:
The Mavs will gladly accept a sack of potatoes for Kristaps.
If a trade were to happen, i think all it would take would be a bunch of expiring contracts plus a 1st round pick.

Good thing you arent in the Mavs front office

The Mavs front office is a joke, so yeah, glad i'm not working there.

You mean the FO that had the 5th pick 2018 and traded up at all costs? Yepp

DroseReturnChi · Post #60 » by **DroseReturnChi** » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:48 pm

clyde21 wrote:lol no way the Warriors are giving up a top 5 pick potentially for zinger at this point never gonna happen

ok gl winning with wiggs and rookie wiseman with a expiring 3 yr window. just win 1 more and rebuild. you had your run.
I dont mind the warriors imploding with all of them injured but wasting Steph's prime yrs is just blasphemous.
Just trade the trio for better deserving teams instead of holding them hostage.