OKC is a disgrace

dennythedino · Post #41 » by **dennythedino** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 3:45 am

sashaturiaf wrote:
Nuntius wrote:
sashaturiaf wrote:
- 4 was just LeBron creating superteam on different teams

So if not for injury. Either a LeBron superteam or a KD superteam would have won every single title after 2011, barring one Spurs ring

Last year's Lakers was most definitely not a superteam. It was a normal contending team with 2 superstars + elite role players.

sashaturiaf · Post #42 » by **sashaturiaf** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 3:58 am

dennythedino wrote:
sashaturiaf wrote:
Nuntius wrote:

Last year's Lakers was most definitely not a superteam. It was a normal contending team with 2 superstars + elite role players.

2 all NBA first team guys on one team. And they barely even played a team with 1 all NBA first team in their playoff run.

Tell me how that not a superteam.

Jadoogar · Post #43 » by **Jadoogar** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 4:00 am

Dupp wrote:Itt: Hinkie invented tanking.

He didn't invent it obviously but he did start the "multi year bottom of the barrel" tank jobs

Big J · Post #44 » by **Big J** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 4:04 am

The reason that OKC is a bigger disgrace than Minny or Detroit is that they had the assets to cash in and be competitive in the playoffs this year, but instead they chose to tank.

Ducklett · Post #45 » by **Ducklett** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 4:06 am

Nuntius wrote:
sashaturiaf wrote:Hinkies and Prestis didn't exist in the 90s when more than 1-2 teams felt like they had a shot at a title

The NBA saw 5 different champions in the 90s. Chicago won 6, Houston won 2 while Detroit, SAS and LAL won 1 each (yes, I know that it adds up to 11 seasons, I'm counting both 89-90 and 99-00).

In the 2010s, the NBA saw 7 different champions. GSW won 3, LAL won 2 (with two different teams, one Kobe, one LeBron), Miami won 2 while Dallas, SAS, Cleveland and Toronto won 1 each.

I don't think that saying that no more than 1-2 teams feel like they have a shot at a title is accurate.

With the difference in player mobility now I don't think its fair to just say team names. LBJ played for 3 different teams and won championships for those teams. Had he just stayed in one place the number shrinks from 7 to 5. Kawhi won in SAS then took his talents to THE NORTH and won there. Curry, LBJ, Kobe, Dirk, and Kawhi won all of the championships in the decade. The team names truly don't matter.

johanliebert · Post #46 » by **johanliebert** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 4:18 am

The product OKC is giving their fans is a disgrace. The nba has convinced fans losing in the short term will lead to long term success..look at all the picks they’ve stockpiled lol. Their entire starting lineup are all being held out let’s be frank they’re not hurt. What happened to a competitive nba product?

Don’t blame super teams or being in a small market you the fans have accepted this,

QPR · Post #47 » by **QPR** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 4:20 am

Big J wrote:The reason that OKC is a bigger disgrace than Minny or Detroit is that they had the assets to cash in and be competitive in the playoffs this year, but instead they chose to tank.

They're a mid-market team that is never going to be able to attract top tier free agents, so their only realistic chance at getting a superstar is to draft and develop one. Trading all their assets for second and third tier players isn't going to get them closer to a title, it will just mean they continue their post-KD existence as a first/second round playoff team.

It's ugly but only some teams have any chance at building a contender through free agency. OKC isn't one of them.

basketballRob · Post #48 » by **basketballRob** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 4:26 am

LivingLegend wrote:
basketballRob wrote:Just noticed Dort has been out 6 games with a concussion. I think it's normally 24 hours. Plus another guy was out with a concussion, didn't catch his name.

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Delly missed the first 3 months of the season with a concussion he suffered in the preseason. Concussions are not a timeline, they effect everybody differently. A concussion is quite literally a injury to your brain.

When you're tanking they probably exaggerate the recovery time.

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Dupp · Post #49 » by **Dupp** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 4:39 am

Jadoogar wrote:
Dupp wrote:Itt: Hinkie invented tanking.

He didn't invent it obviously but he did start the "multi year bottom of the barrel" tank jobs

Okc have been decent for a long long time. They overachieved last season and even did really well for the first half of this season. Considering the assets they've acquired its hardly something to worry or complain abaout.

Dupp · Post #50 » by **Dupp** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 4:43 am

Big J wrote:The reason that OKC is a bigger disgrace than Minny or Detroit is that they had the assets to cash in and be competitive in the playoffs this year, but instead they chose to tank.

Lol. These two have been bottom dwellers forever, particularly minny, maybe the worst ran team in all of sports.

Okc on the other hand have been making the playoffs forever and did good for a lot of this season. They are actually ran competently.

OkcSinceSGA · Post #51 » by **OkcSinceSGA** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 4:49 am

Thunder showed you exactly why they will be a dynasty in 3-4 years. Expected to be worst team in NBA yet hovered around .500 until they decided to spare the league humiliation further. Then at the PERFECT time they start resting guys once the point has been made.

Now they stack top 3 draft picks couple years. Just be glad they aren’t unleashing SGA, Dort and Poku on your team right now bro. Even 2k21 lists SGA as out for “personal reasons”. They know he’s nice and just wants to give the league time to catch up and delay the upcoming dynasty.

Sactowndog · Post #52 » by **Sactowndog** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 4:51 am

Big J wrote:The stockpiling OKC is doing bothers me. They could easily cash a bunch of them in for a low end star and a couple of veteran role players and maybe make some noise in the playoffs. Instead they are taking the losers path and tanking for even more picks.

As a Kings fan I wish the Kings were as smart as OKC. Instead they will muddle their way to the 10-12 pick and pray someone drops as usual. OKC is smart enough to know they don’t have a play-off team and are giving their youngsters minutes. Their fans have dreams of a top 5 player with a boatload of other picks.....

The Kings meanwhile.....

Sactowndog · Post #53 » by **Sactowndog** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 4:53 am

Dupp wrote:
Big J wrote:The reason that OKC is a bigger disgrace than Minny or Detroit is that they had the assets to cash in and be competitive in the playoffs this year, but instead they chose to tank.

Lol. These two have been bottom dwellers forever, particularly minny, maybe the worst ran team in all of sports.

Okc on the other hand have been making the playoffs forever and did good for a lot of this season. They are actually ran competently.

I will see you a Minny and play the Kings as the worst.

pr0wler · Post #54 » by **pr0wler** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 6:00 am

The Moose wrote:lol i was looking at their lineup the other day. In their 8 man rotation they play:
3 undrafted rookies and 1 undrafted player
2 2nd round picks
2 late first round picks who already were dropped by their draft team

has to be one of the rotations in the past 5 years

Their current lineup makes the Rockets ****** roster look pretty G 8-)

Sea2003 · Post #55 » by **Sea2003** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 6:25 am

baldur wrote:What kind of roster is that today?
Might as well not play the game at all?
How the hell are the 70 percent of the squad injured? I thought medical technologies have advanced?
Plus, how the hell are the broadcast companies paying billions of dollars for this kind of product?

Please discuss.

lol. How else is a small market like OKC supposed to get superstars? How did the thunder get Harden, Russ, and KD again? Oh yea, by getting top 5 picks :lol:

Phreak50 · Post #56 » by **Phreak50** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 6:32 am

Everyone keeps saying the Spurs tanked but this was the start of Robinson's spinal injuries that ended up cutting his career short. (Yes he came back midway through the season and then apparently broke his foot).

You be the judge if Will Perdue and Dominique Wilkins were great tank commanders or not.

MemphisX · Post #57 » by **MemphisX** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 8:06 am

sportfan6197 wrote:
MemphisX wrote:
sashaturiaf wrote:
And what is the cause of blatant tanking. It's the advent of superteams that leaves the middle of the pack literally helpless. In that it is worse to be a 8 seed than the worst team in the league.

Hinkies and Prestis didn't exist in the 90s when more than 1-2 teams felt like they had a shot at a title

What are you talking about? The amount of contenders has not changed in the NBA over the past 40 years. What Okc is doing is an affront to the league. Much worse than The Process. The Process was a team collecting picks, having a roster full of young guys and talent with legit injuries. The Thunder had a competitive team and decided to sit everyone.

I do not want to hear one person crying for Okc when SGA forces his way out of there at any time. Imagine if the Mavericks just sat Luka, KP and a couple of other starters all season just so they can draft a star to go with Luka.

who are they sitting? Shai is injured. Horford is the only one and that was his choice. Dort? jeez.

Look at the history of Shai's "injury. It is BS. They have 3 guys in the concussion protocol for 10 days or so. The entire organization is a joke. Okc fans shouldn't even try to defend it. Any thing they get from this tanking will be crapped on relentlessly by other fans. I mean, they had the ammunition to move up in the draft with their picks but that was not enough. They decided to throw integrity out the window.

MemphisX · Post #58 » by **MemphisX** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 8:09 am

QPR wrote:
Big J wrote:The reason that OKC is a bigger disgrace than Minny or Detroit is that they had the assets to cash in and be competitive in the playoffs this year, but instead they chose to tank.

They're a mid-market team that is never going to be able to attract top tier free agents, so their only realistic chance at getting a superstar is to draft and develop one. Trading all their assets for second and third tier players isn't going to get them closer to a title, it will just mean they continue their post-KD existence as a first/second round playoff team.

It's ugly but only some teams have any chance at building a contender through free agency. OKC isn't one of them.

LMAO...they had 3 MVPs on the roster at the same time on rookie contracts. For people to think the same Ownership/GM combo is going to somehow do better than that are insane.

Post #59 » by **Mavrelous** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 8:32 am

Tanking got much worse this year because of the lack of crowds. Your product isn’t selling anyway.

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Monky15 · Post #60 » by **Monky15** » Fri Apr 9, 2021 9:53 am

No point in tanking anyways unless there is a consensus international guy available in the top 4. Hasn't it become obvious that if you draft a consensus top 4 guy who is home grown you are probably never going to see him in your uniform through the peek of his prime.
He'll be somewhere else by then.

The only guys who stick around with their incumbent franchise are international guys or guys who were drafted later as they are actually grateful for being drafted there and being invested in.

Are any of the top guys actually going to give OKC much of a chance? They got the same agents as the rest of the NBA telling them stuff like how they wasted having 3 mvp's on the roster or didn't have a strong enough culture to trade the guy they should have (Westbrook).

If your small market you have to bide your time, have quality scouts and then draft guys like Lillard, Mitchell, Butler, Curry who weren't consensus top prospects coming into the draft and are therefore more positive towards the team that used a pick on them, saw something in them that others hadn't and weren't just drafted there because if was the obvious decision.

Young might last in Atlanta just because they traded Luka for him.