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Re: Jeremy Lin Announces His Retirement on Twitter 

Post#41 » by ropjhk » Wed May 19, 2021 3:17 am

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We're all human. I really don't understand why people feel the need to look for same race role models.


It gives people confidence that race doesn't have to prevent one from achieving a certain position in life.

Dude went to Harvard and we're here trying to act like him being in the NBA is what should give people that look up to him confidence. :lol:


If it works who are we to judge? If some Asian American kid draws inspiration from Jeremy Lin's example and uses it to work hard and make it to the NBA then we should be happy about that.
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Re: Jeremy Lin Hints at Retirement on Twitter 

Post#42 » by The_Hater » Wed May 19, 2021 3:20 am

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art_tatum wrote:Biggest mistake was to leave nyc.


That wasn’t his choice, they literally told him to leave. There were lots of whispers on why, but I won’t take this thread that direction.

Lin was a solid NBA player after being a huge underdog to even play at thar level. He has all my respect.


Melo and jr smith were jealous of the attention he got. amare admitted this a few years ago when he said some on the team were not happy with Lin’s success. In hindsight knicks should have traded all the anti Lin players and built around him


Let’s not get carried away. Lin was ultimately a fringe starter, not someone you build your entire team around. That’s how you build a team that goes 10-72.
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Re: Jeremy Lin Hints at Retirement on Twitter 

Post#43 » by TinmanZBoy » Wed May 19, 2021 3:21 am

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Re: Jeremy Lin Hints at Retirement on Twitter 

Post#44 » by iLLmatic860 » Wed May 19, 2021 3:21 am

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anotherhomer wrote:He took a big deal of blatant hits that weren't even basketball plays and not called.

Him leaving NY was a Carmelo thing ...I mean the guy threw an uppercut at the guy

He's a good player....I think he can be a good 15th player tho

Melo basically just said Lin wasnt worth a big contract

He wasnt wrong


True, but same can be said for Melo.

One 54 win season. Better than anything we’ve got past 2 decades

The front office could’ve done a better job building around Melo
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Re: Jeremy Lin Hints at Retirement on Twitter 

Post#45 » by NY 567 » Wed May 19, 2021 3:23 am

All the crazy jealousy at Lins contract, which was 3 for 25 mil, was particularly ridiculous. There have been far worse players who got way bigger deals for a lot less.
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Post#46 » by Adam Stern » Wed May 19, 2021 3:28 am

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That wasn’t his choice, they literally told him to leave. There were lots of whispers on why, but I won’t take this thread that direction.

Lin was a solid NBA player after being a huge underdog to even play at thar level. He has all my respect.


Revisionist history.
Lin took the money, as he should have.


Well I just look things up to make sure my memory wasn’t failing me. And the Knicks didn’t offer him a contract, and they didn’t match the contract Houston offered him. Yet they did give contracts to a 39 year old Jason Kidd and Ray Felton.

And the kicker was that Dolan was pissed that Lin didn’t give the Knicks a home team discount after they had given him his opportunity. But they never offered him even a discounted contract so basically they were upset that Lin’s agent ess doing his job snd finding a team that would offer his client a contract.

There were also rumors thar Carmelo didn’t want him back but those are tougher to prove.

Lin did take the money, but the Knicks definitely didn’t try very hard to retain him either.


Lin didn't have to sign Houston's offer sheet and could have negotiated exclusively with NY, but that would have been foolish.
But the real tell is that he and his agent actually renegotiated the Rockets initial offer which got Lin slightly more money but made it virtually impossible for the Knicks to match.
Remember this was one of Morey's infamous poison pill deals.

Money was clearly his priority then which made sense since it was his first big contract.
I was disappointed at how he tried to spin it later.
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Re: Jeremy Lin Hints at Retirement on Twitter 

Post#47 » by sikma42 » Wed May 19, 2021 3:28 am

Weird thing about Lin is he was a uber atheltic pg with marginal basketball iq. But he got treated like a smart pg with low athletism for a long time.

Overall, I think his career was defined by his lack of mental toughness. He had the talent to do much better...but he ended up being basically Asian Ramon Sessions

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Re: Jeremy Lin Hints at Retirement on Twitter 

Post#48 » by The_Hater » Wed May 19, 2021 3:35 am

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Revisionist history.
Lin took the money, as he should have.


Well I just look things up to make sure my memory wasn’t failing me. And the Knicks didn’t offer him a contract, and they didn’t match the contract Houston offered him. Yet they did give contracts to a 39 year old Jason Kidd and Ray Felton.

And the kicker was that Dolan was pissed that Lin didn’t give the Knicks a home team discount after they had given him his opportunity. But they never offered him even a discounted contract so basically they were upset that Lin’s agent ess doing his job snd finding a team that would offer his client a contract.

There were also rumors thar Carmelo didn’t want him back but those are tougher to prove.

Lin did take the money, but the Knicks definitely didn’t try very hard to retain him either.


Lin didn't have to sign Houston's offer sheet and could have negotiated exclusively with NY, but that would have been foolish.
But the real tell is that he and his agent actually renegotiated the Rockets initial offer which got Lin slightly more money but made it virtually impossible for the Knicks to match.
Remember this was one of Morey's infamous poison pill deals.

Money was clearly his priority then which made sense since it was his first big contract.
I was disappointed at how he tried to spin it later.


He could have, sure, but like you said that would be foolish. Free agents rarely do that so why are we holding Lin to a different standard anyways? And like I said, the Knicks weren’t exactly giving him the warm and fuzzies with their non-existent negotiations. Another report I just read says the Knicks told Lin to test the market and bring a contract offer back to them to match.

And this wasn’t Lin spinning things at a later date like you stated, NY papers and Knick reporters were reporting all this in real time. Then later Dolan basically had a hissy fit that he dared to sign that particular offer sheet and just said let him go.
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Re: Jeremy Lin Hints at Retirement on Twitter 

Post#49 » by 13th Man » Wed May 19, 2021 3:46 am

Lin got screwed this year, too much political crap in the NBA. Best of luck to him.
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Post#50 » by Adam Stern » Wed May 19, 2021 3:49 am

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Well I just look things up to make sure my memory wasn’t failing me. And the Knicks didn’t offer him a contract, and they didn’t match the contract Houston offered him. Yet they did give contracts to a 39 year old Jason Kidd and Ray Felton.

And the kicker was that Dolan was pissed that Lin didn’t give the Knicks a home team discount after they had given him his opportunity. But they never offered him even a discounted contract so basically they were upset that Lin’s agent ess doing his job snd finding a team that would offer his client a contract.

There were also rumors thar Carmelo didn’t want him back but those are tougher to prove.

Lin did take the money, but the Knicks definitely didn’t try very hard to retain him either.


Lin didn't have to sign Houston's offer sheet and could have negotiated exclusively with NY, but that would have been foolish.
But the real tell is that he and his agent actually renegotiated the Rockets initial offer which got Lin slightly more money but made it virtually impossible for the Knicks to match.
Remember this was one of Morey's infamous poison pill deals.

Money was clearly his priority then which made sense since it was his first big contract.
I was disappointed at how he tried to spin it later.


He could have, sure, but like you said that would be foolish. Free agents rarely do that so why are we holding Lin to a different standard anyways? And like I said, the Knicks weren’t exactly giving him the warm and fuzzies with their non-existent negotiations. Another report I just read says the Knicks told Lin to test the market and bring a contract offer back to them to match.

And this wasn’t Lin spinning things at a later date like you stated, NY papers and Knick reporters were reporting all this in real time. Then later Dolan basically had a hissy fit that he dared to sign that particular offer sheet and just said let him go.


Who is holding him to a different standard?
I said he went for the money, as he should and as virtually ALL young players do.
I'm just pointing out that saying he had no choice, which he himself alluded to not long ago, is patently false.
The Knicks wanted him back and there were ways to make that happen but Lin had a greater priority: getting paid.
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Post#51 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed May 19, 2021 4:05 am

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anotherhomer wrote:He took a big deal of blatant hits that weren't even basketball plays and not called.

Him leaving NY was a Carmelo thing ...I mean the guy threw an uppercut at the guy

He's a good player....I think he can be a good 15th player tho

Melo basically just said Lin wasnt worth a big contract

He wasnt wrong


He wasn’t but bet you Melo never called out anyone else in his career regarding his contract. Just the Asian guy who got a lot more love in NYC than Melo ever got. Also Melo wasn’t worth any of the love or money NYC gave him.
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Post#52 » by BallerTalk » Wed May 19, 2021 4:12 am

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you should post this in lin fans website or clutchfans ... not here...


Fits perfectly right where it is (and apparently touched the right people).

Thanks. :wink:


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You just keep sharpening my point about Lin's fanatical fanboys :lol:
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Re: Jeremy Lin Hints at Retirement on Twitter 

Post#53 » by Phreak50 » Wed May 19, 2021 4:20 am

BallerTalk wrote:
TinmanZBoy wrote:
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Fits perfectly right where it is (and apparently touched the right people).

Thanks. :wink:


lol... keep masturbating, i don't mind


You just keep sharpening my point about Lin's fanatical fanboys :lol:


How is it any different to the fanboys of LeBron, Luka, Curry... Marvel, Star Wars etc...?

This isn't isolated to Lin.
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Re: Jeremy Lin Hints at Retirement on Twitter 

Post#54 » by BallerTalk » Wed May 19, 2021 5:07 am

Phreak50 wrote:
BallerTalk wrote:
TinmanZBoy wrote:
lol... keep masturbating, i don't mind


You just keep sharpening my point about Lin's fanatical fanboys :lol:


How is it any different to the fanboys of LeBron, Luka, Curry... Marvel, Star Wars etc...?

This isn't isolated to Lin.


Ah yes. The standard whataboutism deflection.
Thanks but no thanks. Not interested in that pointless rabbit hole.

This thread is about Jeremy Lin.

Let's stay focused. Like a well sharpened point :wink:
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Re: Jeremy Lin Hints at Retirement on Twitter 

Post#55 » by MrBigShot » Wed May 19, 2021 6:24 am

He was less than two seasons removed from putting up 10/3/2 in 19 mins a game on decent efficiency. I don't blame him for feeling like he should've gotten an opportunity, there are plenty of NBA players that bring less to the table than Lin would.

Still, he had a career that most athletes could only dream about. For a very brief moment in time he captured the attention of everyone and put on a dazzling run of basketball, as a guy people didn't expect to be anything more than a bench warmer. The rest of his career wasn't very uneventful but he should be proud.
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Re: Jeremy Lin Hints at Retirement on Twitter 

Post#56 » by Got Nuffin » Wed May 19, 2021 7:26 am

sikma42 wrote:Weird thing about Lin is he was a uber atheltic pg with marginal basketball iq. But he got treated like a smart pg with low athletism for a long time.

Overall, I think his career was defined by his lack of mental toughness. He had the talent to do much better...but he ended up being basically Asian Ramon Sessions

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Best comparison for Lin I've heard. That's exactly his level of player, good role-player but not great. Fantastic in the open court and driving in a straight line, but not great at being a floor general, shooting, half court offence..

He was on the Raptors championship team if i'm not mistaken but you would never remember it as could not contribute on court for our team at all, even after being productive for the Hawks at the time.

I really think his massive hot streak was mostly due to teams not understanding his strengths or how to scout him yet. Once that was figured out, he fell back to earth pretty dramatically.

But it was fun while it lasted, and I agree he could have done more with his talents. Seemed to lack some bball iq for a point guard.
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Post#57 » by JN61 » Wed May 19, 2021 7:59 am

Has he even played in last few years?
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Post#58 » by JN61 » Wed May 19, 2021 8:03 am

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iLLmatic860 wrote:
anotherhomer wrote:He took a big deal of blatant hits that weren't even basketball plays and not called.

Him leaving NY was a Carmelo thing ...I mean the guy threw an uppercut at the guy

He's a good player....I think he can be a good 15th player tho

Melo basically just said Lin wasnt worth a big contract

He wasnt wrong


He wasn’t but bet you Melo never called out anyone else in his career regarding his contract. Just the Asian guy who got a lot more love in NYC than Melo ever got. Also Melo wasn’t worth any of the love or money NYC gave him.

Not sure if Knicks fans can afford saying that. Since Melo Knicks have been irrelevant and by looks of it that trend will continue after this year.
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Re: Jeremy Lin Hints at Retirement on Twitter 

Post#59 » by kuclas » Wed May 19, 2021 9:41 am

Jeremy Lin had ruptured patellar injury 3-4 years ago. He was playing well before that injury. That’s the problem. He has a big injury history. Not many players return to play well after the patellar injury. And that’s in lin case. I don’t know why he’s so whiny. He made a lot of money for an undrafted free agent. He has a ring. Toronto gave him a chance as a buyout during their title run. He played minutes down the stretch of the regular season for them. Big minutes. So really didn’t have much left. Thus why he wasn’t in rotation in the playoffs for them.

Lots of nba players flame out by age 30. Lin is just another player. Bigger “stars”. Gilbert arenas, starbury.

The real facts is he tweaked his back during the bubble this year in the g league. Another minor injury. Teams just don’t need him. Maybe if he were a 3 point shooting specialists. Or a big a team could use as a 11/12 guy off the bench. But nba teams have other players available.

Seems to me as if he’s playing victim. The nba gave him lots of contracts. He’s made millions. Go to China where he can continue to make millions like Marbury.
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Post#60 » by slicedbread2 » Wed May 19, 2021 10:07 am

KnicksGadfly wrote:
iLLmatic860 wrote:
anotherhomer wrote:He took a big deal of blatant hits that weren't even basketball plays and not called.

Him leaving NY was a Carmelo thing ...I mean the guy threw an uppercut at the guy

He's a good player....I think he can be a good 15th player tho

Melo basically just said Lin wasnt worth a big contract

He wasnt wrong


He wasn’t but bet you Melo never called out anyone else in his career regarding his contract. Just the Asian guy who got a lot more love in NYC than Melo ever got. Also Melo wasn’t worth any of the love or money NYC gave him.


It's insane how much Melo's BS cost the Knicks in the following ways:

-Demanding to be traded there prior to the lockout. Donnie Walsh told him to come in FA and allow the Knicks to use the assets they had to acquire CP3. He instead causes the Knicks to eat Billups deal and sent out a bunch of players. Losing the 2014 1st was brutal as the Knicks could've nabbed T.J. Warren/Zach Lavine, but giving the Nuggets the option to swap 1sts in 2016 that allowed them to draft Jamal Murray was worse. Dolan forced his dirty nose in this and Walsh left. Billups' T/O was picked up and he was amnestied in favour of bringing in Tyson Chandler when the clause should've been saved for Amare who unsurprisingly was done halfway through the deal.
-The treatment of Jeremy Lin. It was clear that Dolan was favouring CAA and Melo was apart of that crew. Him and J.R. Smith are real pricks for how they did Lin dirty. The stupid part in that whole ordeal was Melo calling Lin's contract ridiculous as if he were the one signing those paychecks. The Knicks blatantly told him to go find a deal and they'd match whatever deal was offered.
-Demanding and ultimately receiving a 5/173M deal with a no-trade clause. He asked for a cash advancement with half the money upfront and was approved. This right after Dolan wanted and gave up their 2016 1st for Bargnani. Then he gets upset about not having a contending team when he was better off going to Chicago but didn't like the idea of having to take a pay cut.
-Playing in the 2015 all star game despite being injured. Dude shouldn't have played, but made his injury worse and after having surgery was slower and weaker. Couldn't trade him as he had all the leverage.

It's actually funny in the end that Lin managed to get a ring and $60M out of it all while Carmelo still doesn't have a ring and has become what he thought he was too good to be: a bench player.

I hope Lin is at peace and that he realizes that if he wants he can continue in China as long as his body allows him to in order to get some final paydays.

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