Better Prospect: Chet Holmgren vs Victor Wembanyama

UcanUwill · Post #41 » by **UcanUwill** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:26 pm

MarcusBrody wrote:For those that watched the U-19, what made Victor the best player in the tournament? His efficiency seems pedestrian for someone with his physical advantages.

His defense is insane. Bill Russell 2.0

Message Boar · Post #42 » by **Message Boar** » Wed Jul 28, 2021 3:34 pm

I don't know the answer to the question, because I don't look that far ahead.

That being said, can someone feed those poor boys in the thumbnails? They look like the world's going through a famine.

yug · Post #43 » by **yug** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:34 pm

TravisScott55 wrote:Chet looks like another Porzingis.

Chet is more mobile and skilled than Porzingis with a better feel for the game. I really don't think it's gonna be close, I also think Chet will be able to play the 4 long term. Porzy really didn't have the same agility and quicks.

I would take Chet way before Wemby. Wemby is a center for sure, limited O, and more concerns about health.

That said, Chet and Wemby could actually play together imo, chet is that skilled. That would be hilarious to see.

wade44 · Post #44 » by **wade44** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:40 pm

Lol imagine these guys playing in the ‘90s

TheDiesel36 · Post #45 » by **TheDiesel36** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:45 pm

Wenbanyama is giving me solid Thon Maker vibes, Holmgren is painfully slow, hopefully that will get better as he fills out.. Not really feeling the hype here

UcanUwill · Post #46 » by **UcanUwill** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:56 pm

Wembanyama debuted in Euroleague this season, but he is so far away from contributing. Makes you realize how much of the projects those kids are and that anyone can honestly bust, if they somehow dont figure it out.

Wembanyama gives you nothing offensively. He is like 7'4, but he is so weak, all he does right now is spot up 25+ feet away from the rim thinking hes stretching defenses. Of course most teams risk on him, cause hes really not a shooter, but beside those low efficiency 3s that sometimes come from dead on possessions, kid gives you nothing on O. He sure can block shots tho.

UcanUwill · Post #47 » by **UcanUwill** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 4:58 pm

Pharenheit wrote:Lol imagine these guys playing in the ‘90s

They would be Small forwards.

UcanUwill · Post #48 » by **UcanUwill** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:00 pm

yug wrote:
TravisScott55 wrote:Chet looks like another Porzingis.

Chet is more mobile and skilled than Porzingis with a better feel for the game. I really don't think it's gonna be close, I also think Chet will be able to play the 4 long term. Porzy really didn't have the same agility and quicks.

I would take Chet way before Wemby. Wemby is a center for sure, limited O, and more concerns about health.

That said, Chet and Wemby could actually play together imo, chet is that skilled. That would be hilarious to see.

I think Porzingis was more mobile and for sure more athletic, but he despite his young age has already lost a lot of it. The way rookie Porzingis could pull up or explode to the rim, makes Chet look like complete stiff IMO.

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #49 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:01 pm

UcanUwill wrote:Wembanyama debuted in Euroleague this season, but he is so far away from contributing. Makes you realize how much of the projects those kids are and that anyone can honestly bust, if they somehow dont figure it out.

Wembanyama gives you nothing offensively. He is like 7'4, but he is so weak, all he does right now is spot up 25+ feet away from the rim thinking hes stretching defenses. Of course most teams risk on him, cause hes really not a shooter, but beside those low efficiency 3s that sometimes come from dead on possessions, kid gives you nothing on O. He sure can block shots tho.

I would guess teams are looking at him as potentially Gobert that can maybe stretch the floor in the future. Anyone drafting him has to know he's a long way from contributing much until he fills out his body. I think you can get away with playing Holmgren at PF for a few years, but Victor can only play C at the next level.

UcanUwill · Post #50 » by **UcanUwill** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:02 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:Wembanyama debuted in Euroleague this season, but he is so far away from contributing. Makes you realize how much of the projects those kids are and that anyone can honestly bust, if they somehow dont figure it out.

Wembanyama gives you nothing offensively. He is like 7'4, but he is so weak, all he does right now is spot up 25+ feet away from the rim thinking hes stretching defenses. Of course most teams risk on him, cause hes really not a shooter, but beside those low efficiency 3s that sometimes come from dead on possessions, kid gives you nothing on O. He sure can block shots tho.

I would guess teams are looking at him as potentially Gobert that can maybe stretch the floor in the future. Anyone drafting him has to know he's a long way from contributing much until he fills out his body.

Yeap, defense is and will be his selling point.

JujitsuFlip · Post #51 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 5:06 pm

The fact Chet isn't even 200 pounds has to be concerning.

BK_2020 · Post #52 » by **BK_2020** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:28 pm

Pharenheit wrote:Lol imagine these guys playing in the ‘90s

I know right? 50 ppg easy.

GregOden · Post #53 » by **GregOden** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 6:46 pm

BK_2020 wrote:
Pharenheit wrote:Lol imagine these guys playing in the ‘90s

I know right? 50 ppg easy.

Dirk and KG were small forwards in the 90s and didnt come close to that.

TravisScott55 · Post #54 » by **TravisScott55** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:34 pm

yug wrote:
TravisScott55 wrote:Chet looks like another Porzingis.

Chet is more mobile and skilled than Porzingis with a better feel for the game. I really don't think it's gonna be close, I also think Chet will be able to play the 4 long term. Porzy really didn't have the same agility and quicks.

I would take Chet way before Wemby. Wemby is a center for sure, limited O, and more concerns about health.

That said, Chet and Wemby could actually play together imo, chet is that skilled. That would be hilarious to see.

You are severely overrating Chet

basketballRob · Post #55 » by **basketballRob** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 7:56 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:The fact Chet isn't even 200 pounds has to be concerning.

He'll have to work on that next season in Orlando.

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J_T · Post #56 » by **J_T** » Tue Feb 15, 2022 8:00 pm

I voted for the first guy, simply because of easier to pronounce name.

tundraknight · Post #57 » by **tundraknight** » Wed Feb 16, 2022 5:45 am

Knicks365247 wrote:Victor Wembanyama being still only 17 he can still grow another inch or so easily.

Hopefully he won’t get any taller. That would only make him a worse prospect. Slower and even more injury concerns if he was 7’4” or 7’5”.

SelfishPlayer · Post #58 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:01 am

Big J wrote:Neither. Give me a wing who won’t get put on an island in the playoffs instead of a position locked dinosaur.

I'm with you but think that Chet represents the future of the "locked" center position which I view ideally as defense like Gobert, lob catching rim running like Dwight Howard, three point shooting like Dirk, and facilitation/passing abilities like Jokic. It's a plus that Chet actually has ball handling skills and he represents a good deal of those ideal attributes. He's perhaps another Porzingis, although with better passing, which would be a win for an organization even though he hasn't had a healthy full career.

Lockdown504090 · Post #59 » by **Lockdown504090** » Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:06 am

I picked chet just because i have doubts about victors durability at the nba level, he doesnt move properly. Chet also gives me some scary henry ellenson vibes, but im trying to ignore them because hes taller and a better defender.

BarbaGrizz · Post #60 » by **BarbaGrizz** » Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:58 pm

Chet needs to spend some time with Zion, amirite?