2021-22 NBA Rookie Thread (part 2)

[basketballRob]

The German Hammer!!!!

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[OrlMagic05]

Barnes is the clear #1 so far this season.

I wouldn’t say he’s the clear #1 If Wagner continues to play this way it will be close.


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[MissileMike]

Really wanted Ayo Dosunmu in the draft. He played great tonight!

It seems like there's one of these players each draft. Accomplished college player who slips to the second round, then contributes right away his rookie season. He plays winning basketball.

[Bruin]

Great game by Franz tonight. Kids a sniper

Don’t think he’s at Mobley and Scottie level since he doesn’t really provide much aside from the shooting/scoring and some defense while Mobley and Scottie are dominant defensively, better passers, and better rebounders

Franz is definitely very impressive though. I think the role player projections are underrating him. He can definitely develop into a star player if he continues at this rate

Personally I have him as number 3 right now in the ROY race. Above both Duarte and Giddey

[basketballRob]

Great game by Franz tonight. Kids a sniper

Don’t think he’s at Mobley and Scottie level since he doesn’t really provide much aside from the shooting/scoring and some defense while Mobley and Scottie are dominant defensively, better passers, and better rebounders

Franz is definitely very impressive though. I think the role player projections are underrating him. He can definitely develop into a star player if he continues at this rate

Personally I have him as number 3 right now in the ROY race. Above both Duarte and Giddey

He's been pretty dominant defensively.

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[Bruin]

Great game by Franz tonight. Kids a sniper

Don’t think he’s at Mobley and Scottie level since he doesn’t really provide much aside from the shooting/scoring and some defense while Mobley and Scottie are dominant defensively, better passers, and better rebounders

Franz is definitely very impressive though. I think the role player projections are underrating him. He can definitely develop into a star player if he continues at this rate

Personally I have him as number 3 right now in the ROY race. Above both Duarte and Giddey

He's been pretty dominant defensively.

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I’ll watch him some more, but from the games I’ve watched so far, he’s not quite the level of Mobley and Scottie on defense although he’s definitely still a very good defender

But also again, he’s not really rebounding very much. I would say that it’s due to playing with Bamba, but Cole Anthony is averaging over 7 rebounds so that kinda negates that argument

Mobley and Scottie have had a different level of impact in that they’ve been their teams best player so far and have impacted winning and have their teams both at .500 (above .500 in Scottie’s case)

[SOUL]

I’ll watch him some more, but from the games I’ve watched so far, he’s not quite the level of Mobley and Scottie on defense although he’s definitely still a very good defender

But also again, he’s not really rebounding very much. I would say that it’s due to playing with Bamba, but Cole Anthony is averaging over 7 rebounds so that kinda negates that argument

Mobley and Scottie have had a different level of impact in that they’ve been their teams best player so far and have impacted winning and have their teams both at .500 (above .500 in Scottie’s case)

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Our starting 5 with Suggs and Franz in it has the highest net rating in the league and it's all young dudes so they're playing super well together. Once the bench comes in it's a mess. He's a savvy defender though. I'd say Mobley is a more directly impactful defender and Barnes is more versatile.

Fun watching all these rookies ball out.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Barnes is the clear #1 so far this season.

I wouldn’t say he’s the clear #1 If Wagner continues to play this way it will be close.


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he did say so far.

Wagner is like a draft steal so far against players like Suggs, Jalen Green, Kuminga, Giddy, and Cade

[Bruin]

I’ll watch him some more, but from the games I’ve watched so far, he’s not quite the level of Mobley and Scottie on defense although he’s definitely still a very good defender

But also again, he’s not really rebounding very much. I would say that it’s due to playing with Bamba, but Cole Anthony is averaging over 7 rebounds so that kinda negates that argument

Mobley and Scottie have had a different level of impact in that they’ve been their teams best player so far and have impacted winning and have their teams both at .500 (above .500 in Scottie’s case)

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Our starting 5 with Suggs and Franz in it has the highest net rating in the league and it's all young dudes so they're playing super well together. Once the bench comes in it's a mess. He's a savvy defender though. I'd say Mobley is a more directly impactful defender and Barnes is more versatile.

Fun watching all these rookies ball out.

well that’s a nice sign for sure. Definitely an interesting rookie class. Lots of really good prospects

[orlando_joe]

I’ll watch him some more, but from the games I’ve watched so far, he’s not quite the level of Mobley and Scottie on defense although he’s definitely still a very good defender

But also again, he’s not really rebounding very much. I would say that it’s due to playing with Bamba, but Cole Anthony is averaging over 7 rebounds so that kinda negates that argument

Mobley and Scottie have had a different level of impact in that they’ve been their teams best player so far and have impacted winning and have their teams both at .500 (above .500 in Scottie’s case)

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Our starting 5 with Suggs and Franz in it has the highest net rating in the league and it's all young dudes so they're playing super well together. Once the bench comes in it's a mess. He's a savvy defender though. I'd say Mobley is a more directly impactful defender and Barnes is more versatile.

Fun watching all these rookies ball out.

plus youngest starting 5 to start a season ever

[basketballRob]

Another version of his poster.

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[RookieStar]

Great game by Franz tonight. Kids a sniper

Don’t think he’s at Mobley and Scottie level since he doesn’t really provide much aside from the shooting/scoring and some defense while Mobley and Scottie are dominant defensively, better passers, and better rebounders

Franz is definitely very impressive though. I think the role player projections are underrating him. He can definitely develop into a star player if he continues at this rate

Personally I have him as number 3 right now in the ROY race. Above both Duarte and Giddey

He's been pretty dominant defensively.

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I’ll watch him some more, but from the games I’ve watched so far, he’s not quite the level of Mobley and Scottie on defense although he’s definitely still a very good defender

But also again, he’s not really rebounding very much. I would say that it’s due to playing with Bamba, but Cole Anthony is averaging over 7 rebounds so that kinda negates that argument

Mobley and Scottie have had a different level of impact in that they’ve been their teams best player so far and have impacted winning and have their teams both at .500 (above .500 in Scottie’s case)

It's kinda hard to get rebounds as Franz in the SL seeing as you have two huge longbois upfront that I think averages double-digit rebounds. Plus our 2 guards in Cole and Suggs actively hunt for boards as well.

Mobley Barnes and Franz are all tall long lean guys that defends even the perimeter pretty well. Franz defends more man-to-man wherein perimeter players have a hard time getting through because they end up picking up their dribble. He is lacking for me in Mobley's help defense ability though when their teammates get beat.

Also, wasn't this board ready to anoint Davion from the Kings as the DPOY after their 1st game? lol we will see how their defense evolves. Suggs has also been a good on-ball defender and usually comes up with clutch blocks.

[basketballRob]

He's been pretty dominant defensively.

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I’ll watch him some more, but from the games I’ve watched so far, he’s not quite the level of Mobley and Scottie on defense although he’s definitely still a very good defender

But also again, he’s not really rebounding very much. I would say that it’s due to playing with Bamba, but Cole Anthony is averaging over 7 rebounds so that kinda negates that argument

Mobley and Scottie have had a different level of impact in that they’ve been their teams best player so far and have impacted winning and have their teams both at .500 (above .500 in Scottie’s case)

It's kinda hard to get rebounds as Franz in the SL seeing as you have two huge longbois upfront that I think averages double-digit rebounds. Plus our 2 guards in Cole and Suggs actively hunt for boards as well.

Mobley Barnes and Franz are all tall long lean guys that defends even the perimeter pretty well. Franz defends more man-to-man wherein perimeter players have a hard time getting through because they end up picking up their dribble. He is lacking for me in Mobley's help defense ability though when their teammates get beat.

Also, wasn't this board ready to anoint Davion from the Kings as the DPOY after their 1st game? lol we will see how their defense evolves. Suggs has also been a good on-ball defender and usually comes up with clutch blocks.

Before the game opponents were shooting 23% from 3 against Suggs and 26% against Franz. That probably came down more.

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[babyjax13]

Wagner is better than I anticipated. I had Dosumu 11th on my big board, so happy to see him get some burn and some evidence I may have been closer to correct than not (already there are some clear misses).

[Son Goku 25]

Scottie Barnes a long term project but already ahead of the curve... insane

[anotherhomer]

i haven't watch wagner played too much
but he seems pretty impressive...i believe he was one of the guys on raps radar had they drafted in the 7 range

as a raps fan, i'm obviously rooting for scottie, acknowledge evan has the higher ceiling
but i say, we can't count Wagner out yet.....there's a darkhorse chance he could be the better player, which would be amazing

EDIT: just saw the highlights ya, he's really good. has a smooth attacking lane, and even the 3-pt shot which Barnes doesn't have
yup, have a chance to be the better more complete offensive player.....

quick question, how's Wagner's read of the game?
With Barnes, he reads the game really well...

I’ll watch him some more, but from the games I’ve watched so far, he’s not quite the level of Mobley and Scottie on defense although he’s definitely still a very good defender

But also again, he’s not really rebounding very much. I would say that it’s due to playing with Bamba, but Cole Anthony is averaging over 7 rebounds so that kinda negates that argument

Mobley and Scottie have had a different level of impact in that they’ve been their teams best player so far and have impacted winning and have their teams both at .500 (above .500 in Scottie’s case)

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Our starting 5 with Suggs and Franz in it has the highest net rating in the league and it's all young dudes so they're playing super well together. Once the bench comes in it's a mess. He's a savvy defender though. I'd say Mobley is a more directly impactful defender and Barnes is more versatile.

Fun watching all these rookies ball out.

[DCasey91]

I actually think the German has been the best offensive player out of the rookies so far. It would be Giddey just about but OKC can’t finish lol. Just as I type it the Moose misses a layup.

All 5 have distinct impact on their respective teams.

Great start so far!

[10giz]

I’ll watch him some more, but from the games I’ve watched so far, he’s not quite the level of Mobley and Scottie on defense although he’s definitely still a very good defender

But also again, he’s not really rebounding very much. I would say that it’s due to playing with Bamba, but Cole Anthony is averaging over 7 rebounds so that kinda negates that argument

Mobley and Scottie have had a different level of impact in that they’ve been their teams best player so far and have impacted winning and have their teams both at .500 (above .500 in Scottie’s case)

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Our starting 5 with Suggs and Franz in it has the highest net rating in the league and it's all young dudes so they're playing super well together. Once the bench comes in it's a mess. He's a savvy defender though. I'd say Mobley is a more directly impactful defender and Barnes is more versatile.

Fun watching all these rookies ball out.

plus youngest starting 5 to start a season ever

Man I'm happy that for the first time in nearly a decade, Orlando its finally building a foundation the right way with players who play the game the right way.

I keep saying this but the single most important thing in terms of changing the course of a franchise is just building that positive and supportive environment that makes sure every player on the roster feels respected and feels like they team and franchise wants them to succeed organically.

You guys are in a great spot and this part is mosts fun. Just patience and enjoy watching the development of these kids.

You don't need a #1 pick or unicorn to build a quality franchise it juts takes consistency and continuity.

God damn we also have Isaac coming around soon. Beautiful. Excited to see the team grow over the next few years.

[gbball]

What an exciting rookie class so far. Barnes, Mobley, Wagner, Giddey, Duarte are all showing a ton. Cade, Green, and Suggs have clear potential and have shown flashes. No fear from any of them, they look like they're trying to dominate from day 1.

Big skilled players are having their way. It makes you wonder if next year's draft will be even better with guys like Holmgren and Banchero who are both huge and very skilled.

I can't remember the last time I've seen a rookie class this impactful so quickly.

Lebron and Melo hit the ground running their year, but Wade, Bosh, and Ford took some time to get up to speed. In Iverson's year, AI got off to a good start, but the others took some time. I wasn't around for the Jordan draft so I'm not sure how that year went.

Barring injuries this could be a special group of players.

[God Squad]

I think Barnes reminds the most of if Sixers Iggy was bigger and played like Pippen. Now I say bigger in height because Iggy has them all time smexy guns and was strong af whereas Pippen was taller and leaner.

Barnes will be a problem once he matures physically but his frame is superb. One thing at a time but that midrange is very promising.

For Mobs he’s very much like AD (+ defense - minus scoring) instead of Bosh with similarities to a less athletic but taller Russell on defense. I had Garnett but he was abit more bouncy and shorter. Never saw Bosh having this kind of defensive potential.

Both have as we probably know a super high floor and obviously plus impact players on winning which is unusual for a rookie because they aren’t the easiest positions to play being a first year and young to boot.

Hoping for more playing time to Butler today and for the OKC wings to stop clanking easy looks from Giddey’s passing lol. Dude should be averaging 7+ assists.

Anyway once again great class so many rooks to follow!

On a lighthearted note, i've been thinking of nick names, no idea on Barnes ('Scottie 2 Hottie' is just eeehh, not a fan), but Mobley's is probably much easier, something like The Mob or The Mob'ster

Any argument between raps fans and Mobley/Barnes on the the Rookie thread refer to Barnes & Moble :)

Here’s a few of my own:
Evan “Mobility or Mobile” Mobley
Scottie “Bucky” Barnes
James “Boogie” Bouknight
Jonathan “Kumquat” Kuminga
Josh “Giddy4” Giddey
Trey “Lupin” Murphy III
Herbert “Sutcliffe” Jones
Isaiah “Chopped” Livers
Aaron “Andrew” Wiggins
Jericho “Iron Man” Sims
Luka Garza “Strip”
Moses “M&M” Moody
Franz “The German or German” Wagner

(Bonus points if anyone can catch the references).

Nicknames are short sharp and sweet and plays on words for fun.

Haha I’m still waiting for Double O to take off that’s a sick nickname for Onyeka. Also Sexland will get renamed to Mobland in due time lol.

Barnes and Moble is funny/creative lol