CJ McCollum. Will he ever be an All-Star?

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Will he ever be an All-Star?

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Re: CJ McCollum. Will he ever be an All-Star? 

Post#41 » by ANTETOKOUNBROS » Fri Nov 18, 2022 7:45 pm

He will end up being this era's Mike Conley.
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Post#42 » by dk1115 » Fri Nov 18, 2022 7:54 pm

It's these two years, or not at all.
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Post#43 » by Duke4life831 » Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:54 pm

dk1115 wrote:It's these two years, or not at all.


He’s never making one. He isn’t an all star caliber player, especially now.
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Post#44 » by monopoman » Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:56 pm

If Pels look like a legit top 4 seed in the West and CJ looks really good as the All-Star game approaches he has a small shot at it. Even in that scenario I would probably give him about a 30% chance of making it which is about as high as it would get for him.

CJ is a very streaky player he will have a small series of games where he looks absolutely incredible, he just has trouble producing at that level consistently. As someone that has seen him play 100's of games in Portland, overall he is a pretty good player but he just shoots himself in the foot with consistency issues which prevents the true star label.
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Post#45 » by Young gun 6 » Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:02 pm

No chance now with the emergence of even more guards in the west. He’s behind the following at a bare minimum;

Luka, Curry, SGA, Ja, Booker, Fox, Dame, Bane and then probably also Simons and PG too.

West guard spots are brutal.
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Post#46 » by Plutonashfan » Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:09 pm

Never say never. If Mike Conley can why not? Couple of injuries and a Covid outbreak could lead to a "lucky" break. It will be tough though.
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Post#47 » by BNM » Sat Nov 19, 2022 1:19 am

monopoman wrote:If Pels look like a legit top 4 seed in the West and CJ looks really good as the All-Star game approaches he has a small shot at it. Even in that scenario I would probably give him about a 30% chance of making it which is about as high as it would get for him.

CJ is a very streaky player he will have a small series of games where he looks absolutely incredible, he just has trouble producing at that level consistently. As someone that has seen him play 100's of games in Portland, overall he is a pretty good player but he just shoots himself in the foot with consistency issues which prevents the true star label.


I know it's early, only 15 games in, but there is no way CJ is making the all start team this year, even if NOP is the #1 seed heading into the all start break.

His TS% is a truly abysmal .488. Just to give you an idea how bad that is, Russell Westbrook is the poster child of a bad shooter. His career low TS% is .489 - his rookie year. This is Russ' 15th season and he's NEVER shot as poorly as CJ is right now. At least with Russ, you get the rebounds and assists to go with the poor shooting.

CJ is the 3rd leading scorer on his team, but also takes the most shots. He scores 19.0 ppg on 18.5 FGA/G. Compare that to Zion 23.5 ppg on 15.9 FGA/G and Ingram 20.1 ppg on 16.1 FGA/G and it's easy to see how inefficient CJ is. CJ leads his team in FGA/G, but is 11th (i.e. dead last) among his teammates who have played more than 37 minutes so far this season.

At his best, CJ was a 23 ppg scorer on slightly above average efficiency. He was the 2nd best player on POR teams that twice finished as a top 3 seed in the West, yet he never made the all star team. No way does he make it as a terrible shooting 19 ppg inefficient chucker.
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Post#48 » by monopoman » Sat Nov 19, 2022 1:31 am

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monopoman wrote:If Pels look like a legit top 4 seed in the West and CJ looks really good as the All-Star game approaches he has a small shot at it. Even in that scenario I would probably give him about a 30% chance of making it which is about as high as it would get for him.

CJ is a very streaky player he will have a small series of games where he looks absolutely incredible, he just has trouble producing at that level consistently. As someone that has seen him play 100's of games in Portland, overall he is a pretty good player but he just shoots himself in the foot with consistency issues which prevents the true star label.


I know it's early, only 15 games in, but there is no way CJ is making the all start team this year, even if NOP is the #1 seed heading into the all start break.

His TS% is a truly abysmal .488. Just to give you an idea how bad that is, Russell Westbrook is the poster child of a bad shooter. His career low TS% is .489 - his rookie year. This is Russ' 15th season and he's NEVER shot as poorly as CJ is right now. At least with Russ, you get the rebounds and assists to go with the poor shooting.

CJ is the 3rd leading scorer on his team, but also takes the most shots. He scores 19.0 ppg on 18.5 FGA/G. Compare that to Zion 23.5 ppg on 15.9 FGA/G and Ingram 20.1 ppg on 16.1 FGA/G and it's easy to see how inefficient CJ is. CJ leads his team in FGA/G, but is 11th (i.e. dead last) among his teammates who have played more than 37 minutes so far this season.

At his best, CJ was a 23 ppg scorer on slightly above average efficiency. He was the 2nd best player on POR teams that twice finished as a top 3 seed in the West, yet he never made the all star team. No way does he make it as a terrible shooting 19 ppg inefficient chucker.


I had no clue his efficiency was that bad, though as you say it is early I still think he is a big time long shot to make it though. Especially if those stats are just a taste of things to come, though I recall some rough starts to the season before with CJ as a Blazer, and then later he looks better.

One thing that has always hurt him is he is not adapt at drawing fouls, and that really does punish TS% typically the best TS guys are guys that get to the foul line.
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Post#50 » by DaddyCool19 » Sat Nov 19, 2022 2:44 am

Why is he shooting more than Brandon and Zion? I would get it, if he was going 50/40/90 and did it super efficiently. But he isn't efficient at all and you would think as a veteran he would know it and take a backseat.
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Post#51 » by ChaseDown » Sat Nov 19, 2022 3:01 am

Eh why not. Conley got in eventually. So I would say it depends on the team he’s on, how they’re doing and which injured guards will vacate a spot.
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Re: CJ McCollum. Will he ever be an All-Star? 

Post#52 » by monopoman » Sat Nov 19, 2022 3:12 am

DaddyCool19 wrote:Why is he shooting more than Brandon and Zion? I would get it, if he was going 50/40/90 and did it super efficiently. But he isn't efficient at all and you would think as a veteran he would know it and take a backseat.


CJ is a bit of a black hole on offense, it worked a bit better in the Dame+CJ offense since we rarely had another consistent scorer, but I think his value does drop a bit as you add starters that can create their own shot.

I would sometimes be trying to will him to pass the ball while watching him, he is so damn intent on his own shot creation that he often forgets to use others in the offense. For a guy that is as smart as he is off the court, I'm not really sure why he can't seem to grasp this concept.

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