Who will have a Brighter Future Anthony Edwards or Tyrese Maxey?

[God Squad]

Edwards I guess because of "potential". But I think Edwards has some awful shot selection and his effiency isn't very good either. Low key he's probably overrated, while Maxey is underrated.

[cupcakesnake]

People boosting Maxey right now are doing so based on his efficient shooting (and how it effects any advanced metric connected to TS% or FG%). Personally, I'll need more than 14 games of hot shooting before I even place Maxey in the category some are trying to put him in.

He shot under 30% from 3 in college, and only 30% last year. I project him as a good shooter long term, but I think there's almost no chance he maintains these averages this year.

Maxey has also not really been gelling with Embiid. He turns into a 21% 3-point shooter when he shares the floor with Embiid (shooting 46% from 3 without Embiid on the floor) and his scoring rate drops dramatically. He's been thriving since Embiid went out, since he gets to jack a little bit more (Maxey always looks better playing with a ton of offensive freedom).

In his last 3 games Maxey scored 29.3ppg on 69.5TS% while averaging just 1 turnover. People might knock 4.6apg for a PG, but he's a good decision-maker and takes care of the ball.

Still, Edwards is the more valuable asset with higher upside. It wouldn't surprise me if Maxey turned out better (he's arguably better right now) but as a betting man I'd go with Edwards at this point. I'm interested to see how Maxey looks when Embiid returns to the lineup.

I think it's fair to say: Maxey has shot the ball better over the first 14 games of the season. I don't think that makes for strong argument for being "arguably better right now".

I don't think it's reasonable to compare Edwards and Maxey based of a tiny sample of hot shooting/good scoring. I see people are checking the stats, seeing how this efficiency boosts his profile, and thinking there's an argument. I don't think that's prudent until we get Maxey proving it's sustainable.

Also what's with the Knicks fans coming here and trying to compare Quickley to Maxey? Quickley is fun but is still theoretical. He's not playing minutes or shooting the ball well, and until he does something, it's not the time to hype him over guys who are already performing. It's fine to be a fan of your team, but keep things in context lol.

[Hussien Fatal]

People boosting Maxey right now are doing so based on his efficient shooting (and how it effects any advanced metric connected to TS% or FG%). Personally, I'll need more than 14 games of hot shooting before I even place Maxey in the category some are trying to put him in.

He shot under 30% from 3 in college, and only 30% last year. I project him as a good shooter long term, but I think there's almost no chance he maintains these averages this year.

Maxey has also not really been gelling with Embiid. He turns into a 21% 3-point shooter when he shares the floor with Embiid (shooting 46% from 3 without Embiid on the floor) and his scoring rate drops dramatically. He's been thriving since Embiid went out, since he gets to jack a little bit more (Maxey always looks better playing with a ton of offensive freedom).

In his last 3 games Maxey scored 29.3ppg on 69.5TS% while averaging just 1 turnover. People might knock 4.6apg for a PG, but he's a good decision-maker and takes care of the ball.

Still, Edwards is the more valuable asset with higher upside. It wouldn't surprise me if Maxey turned out better (he's arguably better right now) but as a betting man I'd go with Edwards at this point. I'm interested to see how Maxey looks when Embiid returns to the lineup.

I think it's fair to say: Maxey has shot the ball better over the first 14 games of the season. I don't think that makes for strong argument for being "arguably better right now".

I don't think it's reasonable to compare Edwards and Maxey based of a tiny sample of hot shooting/good scoring. I see people are checking the stats, seeing how this efficiency boosts his profile, and thinking there's an argument. I don't think that's prudent until we get Maxey proving it's sustainable.

Also what's with the Knicks fans coming here and trying to compare Quickley to Maxey? Quickley is fun but is still theoretical. He's not playing minutes or shooting the ball well, and until he does something, it's not the time to hype him over guys who are already performing. It's fine to be a fan of your team, but keep things in context lol.

To say he doesn’t gel with Embiid is completely false! They came out the gates 1st in the East until Joel went down with COVID. They were playing just fine together? Maxey started the season slow but now with more opportunities he is really producing at a near all star level, he recently has been producing more than Edwards as he has averaged close to 30ppg his last 3 games. And 25ppg over his last 5 games. The efficiency gap between these two players makes this closer than the casuals want to believe, him shooting 41% from 3 and 52% overall isn’t something I view as unsustainable especially considering his work ethic. He can even improve on this as he isn’t even close to how good he will eventually be, he is getting better every game and I can tell because I watched every one of his games. Even his 87%ft isn’t unsustainable considering that’s what he shot last season, in his prime he will be a 90+% free throw shooter.

[cupcakesnake]

People boosting Maxey right now are doing so based on his efficient shooting (and how it effects any advanced metric connected to TS% or FG%). Personally, I'll need more than 14 games of hot shooting before I even place Maxey in the category some are trying to put him in.

He shot under 30% from 3 in college, and only 30% last year. I project him as a good shooter long term, but I think there's almost no chance he maintains these averages this year.

Maxey has also not really been gelling with Embiid. He turns into a 21% 3-point shooter when he shares the floor with Embiid (shooting 46% from 3 without Embiid on the floor) and his scoring rate drops dramatically. He's been thriving since Embiid went out, since he gets to jack a little bit more (Maxey always looks better playing with a ton of offensive freedom).

In his last 3 games Maxey scored 29.3ppg on 69.5TS% while averaging just 1 turnover. People might knock 4.6apg for a PG, but he's a good decision-maker and takes care of the ball.

Still, Edwards is the more valuable asset with higher upside. It wouldn't surprise me if Maxey turned out better (he's arguably better right now) but as a betting man I'd go with Edwards at this point. I'm interested to see how Maxey looks when Embiid returns to the lineup.

I think it's fair to say: Maxey has shot the ball better over the first 14 games of the season. I don't think that makes for strong argument for being "arguably better right now".

I don't think it's reasonable to compare Edwards and Maxey based of a tiny sample of hot shooting/good scoring. I see people are checking the stats, seeing how this efficiency boosts his profile, and thinking there's an argument. I don't think that's prudent until we get Maxey proving it's sustainable.

Also what's with the Knicks fans coming here and trying to compare Quickley to Maxey? Quickley is fun but is still theoretical. He's not playing minutes or shooting the ball well, and until he does something, it's not the time to hype him over guys who are already performing. It's fine to be a fan of your team, but keep things in context lol.

To say he doesn’t gel with Embiid is completely false! They came out the gates 1st in the East until Joel went down with COVID. They were playing just fine together? Maxey started the season slow but now with more opportunities he is really producing at a near all star level, he recently has been producing more than Edwards as he has averaged close to 30ppg his last 3 games. And 25ppg over his last 5 games. The efficiency gap between these two players makes this closer than the casuals want to believe, him shooting 41% from 3 and 52% overall isn’t something I view as unsustainable especially considering his work ethic. He can even improve on this as he isn’t even close to how good he will eventually be, he is getting better every game and I can tell because I watched every one of his games. Even his 87%ft isn’t unsustainable considering that’s what he shot last season, in his prime he will be a 90+% free throw shooter.

All I was pointing out is that Maxey has played very differently so with Embiid on the floor vs. off the floor. It's facts, not false, and not my opinion. It makes sense because obviously, his role shrinks when Embiid is on the floor, and Maxey seems to thrive when he has a bit more offensive freedom. He's not scoring well or shooting well from distance with Embiid on the floor.

Maxey with Embiid: 21% from 3, 14.6 points per 75 possessions. +9.3 net rating
Maxey without Embiid: 46% from 3, 21.9 pointer per 75 possessions, 0.0 net rating



I'm down to entertain this discussion when Maxey maintains this level of efficiency for a longer stretch of time. You might be right, or this might be a blip of hot shooting. It's impossible to say right now. You can't just grab a player when he's playing his best basketball and decide this is what he is permanently. It does show that Maxey has a higher ceiling than some "casuals" might have thought. All you're really doing is painting a best-case scenario here. Awesome if the things you say happen, but you follow ball enough to know that players have high and lows, hot shooting and cold shooting. 14 games isn't enough for me to marry him.

I'm rooting for Maxey but let's wait a few more months before we completely change our projections.

[RoyceDa59]

These two aren’t in the same tier in my opinion.

[Hussien Fatal]

People boosting Maxey right now are doing so based on his efficient shooting (and how it effects any advanced metric connected to TS% or FG%). Personally, I'll need more than 14 games of hot shooting before I even place Maxey in the category some are trying to put him in.

He shot under 30% from 3 in college, and only 30% last year. I project him as a good shooter long term, but I think there's almost no chance he maintains these averages this year.

Maxey has also not really been gelling with Embiid. He turns into a 21% 3-point shooter when he shares the floor with Embiid (shooting 46% from 3 without Embiid on the floor) and his scoring rate drops dramatically. He's been thriving since Embiid went out, since he gets to jack a little bit more (Maxey always looks better playing with a ton of offensive freedom).



I think it's fair to say: Maxey has shot the ball better over the first 14 games of the season. I don't think that makes for strong argument for being "arguably better right now".

I don't think it's reasonable to compare Edwards and Maxey based of a tiny sample of hot shooting/good scoring. I see people are checking the stats, seeing how this efficiency boosts his profile, and thinking there's an argument. I don't think that's prudent until we get Maxey proving it's sustainable.

Also what's with the Knicks fans coming here and trying to compare Quickley to Maxey? Quickley is fun but is still theoretical. He's not playing minutes or shooting the ball well, and until he does something, it's not the time to hype him over guys who are already performing. It's fine to be a fan of your team, but keep things in context lol.

To say he doesn’t gel with Embiid is completely false! They came out the gates 1st in the East until Joel went down with COVID. They were playing just fine together? Maxey started the season slow but now with more opportunities he is really producing at a near all star level, he recently has been producing more than Edwards as he has averaged close to 30ppg his last 3 games. And 25ppg over his last 5 games. The efficiency gap between these two players makes this closer than the casuals want to believe, him shooting 41% from 3 and 52% overall isn’t something I view as unsustainable especially considering his work ethic. He can even improve on this as he isn’t even close to how good he will eventually be, he is getting better every game and I can tell because I watched every one of his games. Even his 87%ft isn’t unsustainable considering that’s what he shot last season, in his prime he will be a 90+% free throw shooter.

All I was pointing out is that Maxey has played very differently so with Embiid on the floor vs. off the floor. It's facts, not false, and not my opinion. It makes sense because obviously, his role shrinks when Embiid is on the floor, and Maxey seems to thrive when he has a bit more offensive freedom. He's not scoring well or shooting well from distance with Embiid on the floor.

Maxey with Embiid: 21% from 3, 14.6 points per 75 possessions. +9.3 net rating
Maxey without Embiid: 46% from 3, 21.9 pointer per 75 possessions, 0.0 net rating



I'm down to entertain this discussion when Maxey maintains this level of efficiency for a longer stretch of time. You might be right, or this might be a blip of hot shooting. It's impossible to say right now. You can't just grab a player when he's playing his best basketball and decide this is what he is permanently. It does show that Maxey has a higher ceiling than some "casuals" might have thought. All you're really doing is painting a best-case scenario here. Awesome if the things you say happen, but you follow ball enough to know that players have high and lows, hot shooting and cold shooting. 14 games isn't enough for me to marry him.

I'm rooting for Maxey but let's wait a few more months before we completely change our projections.

It’s actually been more than just 14 games, he started 8 games last season and averaged the same exact numbers (18ppg 4rbs 4ast) as his 14 games this year. So that’s 22 games of 18 4 and 4 on and 1 TO on great efficiency.

My point is that if he is putting up efficient numbers like this at 20-21 years of age, then his ceiling is that of an all star caliber player who is capable of a 50/40/90 season any given year.

But let me ask you this…what do you expect numbers wise out of both of these guys in their prime?

[CobraCommander]

Edwards by far

Edwards has the game, the motor, the body and the naivety that he could be an all nba first team player in the future...can you see Maxey being that good?

[CobraCommander]

These two aren’t in the same tier in my opinion.

And it’s not an insult to maxey...but edwards upside is insane

[cupcakesnake]

To say he doesn’t gel with Embiid is completely false! They came out the gates 1st in the East until Joel went down with COVID. They were playing just fine together? Maxey started the season slow but now with more opportunities he is really producing at a near all star level, he recently has been producing more than Edwards as he has averaged close to 30ppg his last 3 games. And 25ppg over his last 5 games. The efficiency gap between these two players makes this closer than the casuals want to believe, him shooting 41% from 3 and 52% overall isn’t something I view as unsustainable especially considering his work ethic. He can even improve on this as he isn’t even close to how good he will eventually be, he is getting better every game and I can tell because I watched every one of his games. Even his 87%ft isn’t unsustainable considering that’s what he shot last season, in his prime he will be a 90+% free throw shooter.

All I was pointing out is that Maxey has played very differently so with Embiid on the floor vs. off the floor. It's facts, not false, and not my opinion. It makes sense because obviously, his role shrinks when Embiid is on the floor, and Maxey seems to thrive when he has a bit more offensive freedom. He's not scoring well or shooting well from distance with Embiid on the floor.

Maxey with Embiid: 21% from 3, 14.6 points per 75 possessions. +9.3 net rating
Maxey without Embiid: 46% from 3, 21.9 pointer per 75 possessions, 0.0 net rating



I'm down to entertain this discussion when Maxey maintains this level of efficiency for a longer stretch of time. You might be right, or this might be a blip of hot shooting. It's impossible to say right now. You can't just grab a player when he's playing his best basketball and decide this is what he is permanently. It does show that Maxey has a higher ceiling than some "casuals" might have thought. All you're really doing is painting a best-case scenario here. Awesome if the things you say happen, but you follow ball enough to know that players have high and lows, hot shooting and cold shooting. 14 games isn't enough for me to marry him.

I'm rooting for Maxey but let's wait a few more months before we completely change our projections.

It’s actually been more than just 14 games, he started 8 games last season and averaged the same exact numbers (18ppg 4rbs 4ast) as his 14 games this year. So that’s 22 games of 18 4 and 4 on and 1 TO on great efficiency.

My point is that if he is putting up efficient numbers like this at 20-21 years of age, then his ceiling is that of an all star caliber player who is capable of a 50/40/90 season any given year.

But let me ask you this…what do you expect numbers wise out of both of these guys in their prime?

I don't want to temper the Maxey enthusiasm too much. I do believe he's got a lot of potential, I'm just not as willing as you to declare it a likely scenario in such small sample. 22 games is still a blip. On the other hand he's just getting started so let's expect great things.

I'm less interested in predicting counting stats than some people, but my projection on each player is something like:
- If Anthony Edwards can refine his shot selection through experience... he's going to be the 2nd best guard in the league. He's a big dumb idiot right now, but the talent is just so rare. I think he's the Zion of shooting guards in terms of his athleticism. His skills are getting there. The decision making is all that holds him back (he just pulls up whenever he feels like it, a bit like Zach Lavine 2 years ago)
- Ideal peak Maxey is a potent combo-guard who occasionally fights for an all-NBA 3rd team spot. I don't see Maxey's game as being in some crazy rarefied air where he's one of the best guards in the league. I don't see him as a primary scorer, I see him as a different version of CJ McCollum with better defense.

Is there a world where Maxey has a brighter future than Edwards? Yes, I think so. But it would require a lot going wrong/stagnation from Edwards, and Maxey achieving every ounce of his potential. Doesn't seem worth the prediction at this point and just feels like a hot take.

[GeorgeMarcus]

In his last 3 games Maxey scored 29.3ppg on 69.5TS% while averaging just 1 turnover. People might knock 4.6apg for a PG, but he's a good decision-maker and takes care of the ball.

Still, Edwards is the more valuable asset with higher upside. It wouldn't surprise me if Maxey turned out better (he's arguably better right now) but as a betting man I'd go with Edwards at this point. I'm interested to see how Maxey looks when Embiid returns to the lineup.

I think it's fair to say: Maxey has shot the ball better over the first 14 games of the season. I don't think that makes for strong argument for being "arguably better right now".

I don't think it's reasonable to compare Edwards and Maxey based of a tiny sample of hot shooting/good scoring. I see people are checking the stats, seeing how this efficiency boosts his profile, and thinking there's an argument. I don't think that's prudent until we get Maxey proving it's sustainable.

Also what's with the Knicks fans coming here and trying to compare Quickley to Maxey? Quickley is fun but is still theoretical. He's not playing minutes or shooting the ball well, and until he does something, it's not the time to hype him over guys who are already performing. It's fine to be a fan of your team, but keep things in context lol.

"Arguable" in that Edwards hasn't demonstrated the ability to score efficiently on a consistent basis and likely hasn't shot over 60 TS% in any 14 game span to date. I hear what you're saying though and also would like to see more of a sample from Maxey before jumping to any rash conclusions. I'm content enjoying his progress instead of comparing him to an incredibly impressive specimen like Edwards.

[Patsfan1081]

I’ll take Immanuel Quickley over Maxey

Lol what a joke! Quickley averages 7ppg on 36% lol

Tyrese is wayyy closer to Edwards than Quickley is to Tyrese. Did you not see the numbers I posted above, quickley is not on the same level as maxey, horrible assessment on your part.

Quickley had the better rookie season. You’re making the thread after a small sample size, which isn’t a knock on Maxey’s potential, however he has never been a efficient shooter nor has he played heavy minutes yet.

[Wilfried]

Edwards seems pretty overrated here

I have a 'Latrell Sprewell' type of player in my mind, when I see him play.
Very good, but also very hot and cold (like yesterday fi) and lack of some real assets to become a real #1 option on a team.

[God Squad]

Edwards seems pretty overrated here

I have a 'Latrell Sprewell' type of player in my mind, when I see him play.
Very good, but also very hot and cold (like yesterday fi) and lack of some real assets to become a real #1 option on a team.

I concur.

[Got Nuffin]

Edwards seems pretty overrated here

I have a 'Latrell Sprewell' type of player in my mind, when I see him play.
Very good, but also very hot and cold (like yesterday fi) and lack of some real assets to become a real #1 option on a team.

I concur.

I would counter with the fact that Sprewell in his GSW/NY days was a heckuva player who played both sides of the ball, could play both guard spots, was electric in the open court and went to the finals as a 1a/b option on the Knicks.

If Edwards is Sprewell without the personality issues that is already better than Maxey's potential overall impact IMO and a huge win for Minny.

[God Squad]

Edwards seems pretty overrated here

I have a 'Latrell Sprewell' type of player in my mind, when I see him play.
Very good, but also very hot and cold (like yesterday fi) and lack of some real assets to become a real #1 option on a team.

I concur.

I would counter with the fact that Sprewell in his GSW/NY days was a heckuva player who played both sides of the ball, could play both guard spots, was electric in the open court and went to the finals as a 1a/b option on the Knicks.

If Edwards is Sprewell without the personality issues that is already better than Maxey's potential overall impact IMO and a huge win for Minny.

Meh, I don't care for Maxey or Edwards personally. I'd probably take Edwards because of potential. But I also think Edwards is inefficient and he's developing chucking habits.

[Tomjas]

This is crazy and I say that as a Sixers fan

[Tanks1]

Read on Twitter

[Quentin]

If Edwards gets to another team the sky's the limit. The Wolves destroy anything that comes there. GM's, coaches, players, fans.

[Hussien Fatal]

Read on Twitter

Wow this is sad! He knew he was gonna chuck up a brick lol

[Tanks1]

Read on Twitter

Wow this is sad! He knew he was gonna chuck up a brick lol

This is stuff you do at the school yard....you know that one dude that's not going to pass....