Mitch Richmond: "Chris Paul, LeBron, D-Wade, and all those guys did a lot for the retired players"

[sacking123]

Millionaires thanking millionaires for arranging them free healthcare.

Mitch Richmond, sure. There are a lot of retired players who are far from millionaires though.

And that’s why this story has popped up. The former players recently charged with fraud loved them for it too because it was so easy to exploit, something CP3s team should have been aware of


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[queridiculo]

Millionaires thanking millionaires for arranging them free healthcare.

Mitch Richmond, sure. There are a lot of retired players who are far from millionaires though.

And that’s why this story has popped up. The former players recently charged with fraud loved them for it too because it was so easy to exploit, something CP3s team should have been aware of

go ahead and blame them for global warming while you're at it.

You haters are too much, it's almost funny.

[Rastas]

Lebron helping yesterdays NBA heroes and all those scholarships for those kids in Akron.
Can also deal directly with China without threatening to press any buttons.
Hurry up and end your career sir - your country needs you in the White House.

[rand]

American politicians have a weird hate towards free healthcare. It has always baffled me why they don't do it.

Because we already have way too many bloated social programs and the US government sucks at administering anything.

Don't know why retired NBA players are considered some kind of charity case. If you're a retired 40 year old you shouldn't need assistance with anything. Go get another job if you can't get afford healthcare like the rest of the country.

Medicare administration is far more financially efficient than private health care firms.

The real reason the US doesn't have free universal healthcare is greed and callousness.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

I mean i guess its been said but does richmond need free health care? I guess he's a softhearted altruistic kinda guy, maybe.

[TheBobster]

I mean i guess its been said but does richmond need free health care? I guess he's a softhearted altruistic kinda guy, maybe.

Or could it just possibly be that Richmond is happy to see some other former players who really need it to be getting it now?

There are players who played 50 years ago and earned at best $30,000 or $40,000 a year as a player that will benefit from this. Why isn't this considered a good thing?

[TheBobster]

When you see that Shaquille O'Neal paid for the funeral for George Mikan, the best player in basketball prior to Russell and Chamberlain, because he was broke due to medical bills it does make you wonder why a multi-billion dollar industry doesn't take care of its pioneers better.

But, since Mikan made the princely sum of $20,000 at the height of his career (1949-50) and was the best-paid player in the league at the time, that money should have lasted him for the next 50+ years.

[bullsnewdynasty]

American politicians have a weird hate towards free healthcare. It has always baffled me why they don't do it.

Because we already have way too many bloated social programs and the US government sucks at administering anything.

Don't know why retired NBA players are considered some kind of charity case. If you're a retired 40 year old you shouldn't need assistance with anything. Go get another job if you can't get afford healthcare like the rest of the country.

Medicare administration is far more financially efficient than private health care firms.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/06/30/the-myth-of-medicares-low-administrative-costs/?sh=235b781c140d

Common myth that has long been disproven.

The real reason the US doesn't have free universal healthcare is greed and callousness.

There's no such thing as free healthcare. At a basic level someone's always paying for it. And our budget deficit is already over $3 trillion dollars.

[bullsnewdynasty]

American politicians have a weird hate towards free healthcare. It has always baffled me why they don't do it.

Because we already have way too many bloated social programs and the US government sucks at administering anything.

Don't know why retired NBA players are considered some kind of charity case. If you're a retired 40 year old you shouldn't need assistance with anything. Go get another job if you can't get afford healthcare like the rest of the country.

Because players weren't always getting $20/30/40 million a year? Just an example, and definitely not the worst one: Larry Bird earned $24million over a 13 season career. Nikola Vukevic is earning Bird's CAREER earnings THIS year... Bill Russell apparently topped out at around $100000 per season...

$1 million in 1980 is the equivalent of $3.3 million in 2021.

$100,000 in 1960 is the equivalent of $930,000 in 2021.

The pay is never going to measure up to today due to differences such as TV money. But acting like these guys are destitute and can't afford healthcare is a total misrepresentation.

And keep in mind Mitch Richmond made $50 million playing in the NBA so there's just a gigantic amount of entitlement out there.

[azcatz11]

I guess good on Lebron for doing the right thing? These guys are making so much money anyway; if they didn't pinch a penny for the older guys it would be pretty messed up

[rand]

Because we already have way too many bloated social programs and the US government sucks at administering anything.

Don't know why retired NBA players are considered some kind of charity case. If you're a retired 40 year old you shouldn't need assistance with anything. Go get another job if you can't get afford healthcare like the rest of the country.

Medicare administration is far more financially efficient than private health care firms.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/06/30/the-myth-of-medicares-low-administrative-costs/?sh=235b781c140d

Common myth that has long been disproven.

The real reason the US doesn't have free universal healthcare is greed and callousness.

There's no such thing as free healthcare. At a basic level someone's always paying for it. And our budget deficit is already over $3 trillion dollars.

You know there's a bunch of other sources on this issue. Selecting one that agrees with your position doesn't make it true.

Our entire economic system is based on greed, predation and the denial of human worth. It's wrong and deserves to go the way of the dinosaur. It won't happen in my generation -- too many people like you are still alive -- but I have hope for the young people. They're smarter and more humane.

[michaelm]

Medicare administration is far more financially efficient than private health care firms.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/06/30/the-myth-of-medicares-low-administrative-costs/?sh=235b781c140d

Common myth that has long been disproven.

The real reason the US doesn't have free universal healthcare is greed and callousness.

There's no such thing as free healthcare. At a basic level someone's always paying for it. And our budget deficit is already over $3 trillion dollars.

You know there's a bunch of other sources on this issue. Selecting one that agrees with your position doesn't make it true.

Our entire economic system is based on greed, predation and the denial of human worth. It's wrong and deserves to go the way of the dinosaur. It won't happen in my generation -- too many people like you are still alive -- but I have hope for the young people. They're smarter and more humane.

Steering away from capitalism in general if you look at health outcomes vs health expenditure/percentage of GDP expended on health in the USA vs most other developed nations, just about all with universal health care, it is hard to argue the US way is more efficient.

[axeman23]

Because we already have way too many bloated social programs and the US government sucks at administering anything.

Don't know why retired NBA players are considered some kind of charity case. If you're a retired 40 year old you shouldn't need assistance with anything. Go get another job if you can't get afford healthcare like the rest of the country.

Because players weren't always getting $20/30/40 million a year? Just an example, and definitely not the worst one: Larry Bird earned $24million over a 13 season career. Nikola Vukevic is earning Bird's CAREER earnings THIS year... Bill Russell apparently topped out at around $100000 per season...

$1 million in 1980 is the equivalent of $3.3 million in 2021.

$100,000 in 1960 is the equivalent of $930,000 in 2021.

The pay is never going to measure up to today due to differences such as TV money. But acting like these guys are destitute and can't afford healthcare is a total misrepresentation.

And keep in mind Mitch Richmond made $50 million playing in the NBA so there's just a gigantic amount of entitlement out there.

That's why I didn't use Richmond as an example, because he was still in the league to take advantage of better TV rights deals and other things that led to higher salaries for players . In Richmond's case, his salary rose 400% from 98/99 to 99/00. He was 34 that year, so he obviously wasn't rewarded a 400% pay rise due to an expected 400% increase in production. Pippen's salary jumped by a similar ammount at the same time, despite being, again, 33. Most of the players before these guys were not so lucky. Sure playing basketball for a living beats brick-laying, but it hasn't always been the insane money that we see getting thrown around today. And Richmond is actually closer (although marginally) to 70 than he is to 40...

[miamiheat319]

Can’t believe this thread has lasted this long lol

[celticfan42487]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/06/30/the-myth-of-medicares-low-administrative-costs/?sh=235b781c140d

Common myth that has long been disproven.



There's no such thing as free healthcare. At a basic level someone's always paying for it. And our budget deficit is already over $3 trillion dollars.

You know there's a bunch of other sources on this issue. Selecting one that agrees with your position doesn't make it true.

Our entire economic system is based on greed, predation and the denial of human worth. It's wrong and deserves to go the way of the dinosaur. It won't happen in my generation -- too many people like you are still alive -- but I have hope for the young people. They're smarter and more humane.

Steering away from capitalism in general if you look at health outcomes vs health expenditure/percentage of GDP expended on health in the USA vs most other developed nations, just about all with universal health care, it is hard to argue the US way is more efficient.

I just assumed that person was trolling for fun arguing a system with a middle man and no barging power on prices was more efficient.

But he might actually believe that.

Well there you have it to answer the question, because enough people are brainwashed by advertisements from companies to believe that in America and vote against basic math and their own well being to do it.

It's really an impressive showing of how effective advertising can be on a populace despite all logic pointing towards the opposite conclusion from what is being advertised.